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  • Wikipedia - Leaning and countersteering in simple words

    Some thing I found on the net (wikipedia) which explains the funda of leaning and countersteering in simple words



    While remaining upright may be the primary goal of beginning riders, a bike must lean in order to maintain balance in a turn: the higher the speed or smaller the turn radius, the more lean is required. This balances the roll torque about the wheel contact patches generated by centrifugal force due to the turn with that of the gravitational force. This lean is usually produced by a momentary steering in the opposite direction, called countersteering. Countersteering skill is usually acquired by motor learning and executed via procedural memory rather than by conscious thought. Unlike other wheeled vehicles, the primary control input on bikes is steering torque, not position.[8]
    Although longitudinally stable when stationary, bikes often have a high enough center of mass and a short enough wheelbase to lift a wheel off the ground under sufficient acceleration or deceleration. When braking, depending on the location of the combined center of mass of the bike and rider with respect to the point where the front wheel contacts the ground, bikes can either skid the front wheel or flip the bike and rider over the front wheel. A similar situation is possible while accelerating, but with respect to the rear wheel.[9]


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_and_motorcycle_dynamics
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    • Originally posted by Sanj_350 View Post
      control input on bikes is steering torque, not position.
      Disagree, position also matters a lot else u will be thrown outwards due to the centrifugal force.
      Life is full of twists, if you want them to be smooth learn to corner hard... \m/

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      • There is a dedicated thread for this .



        Though its a useful info , I think it would be better if we keep them in respective threads so that everyone has access to it

        Pune junta gest a bit sentimental on this stuff and often the discuss goes into debate with various folks offering their views and suggestions.
        Into hibernation mode .

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        • Nice of you for the gentle elbow nudge, Kartik. I had wanted to do it so good of you to beat me to the draw

          I cannot resist a little two cents though. Whoever wrote that has obviously not done much biking (powered or otherwise) to have written that comment

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          • Originally posted by icemang View Post
            Nice of you for the gentle elbow nudge, Kartik. I had wanted to do it so good of you to beat me to the draw

            I cannot resist a little two cents though. Whoever wrote that has obviously not done much biking (powered or otherwise) to have written that comment
            For the part in bold , well I never knew we had to build up the credentials in terms of miles for re-directing information at right place. I have done my part of "biking" whenever I could/can and more over you never know for what so ever reason some one is on saddle or not !
            Into hibernation mode .

            Contact me for the following riding gears .
            1) Alpine stars bionic knee guards
            2) DSG Primal gloves
            3) DSG Nero Jacket Super Large Size.

            Pick up - Pashan , Pune
            Drop - Pashan , Pune
            Timings: After 8:00 pm .
            Rules:
            1.)You crash it , you buy it ! Simple !
            2.) No lending for more than 2 times to a single person.
            Contact Number : 91585 18488.

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            • Originally posted by kartikpai View Post
              There is a dedicated thread for this .



              Though its a useful info , I think it would be better if we keep them in respective threads so that everyone has access to it

              Pune junta gest a bit sentimental on this stuff and often the discuss goes into debate with various folks offering their views and suggestions.
              Originally posted by icemang View Post
              Nice of you for the gentle elbow nudge, Kartik. I had wanted to do it so good of you to beat me to the draw

              I cannot resist a little two cents though. Whoever wrote that has obviously not done much biking (powered or otherwise) to have written that comment
              Originally posted by kartikpai View Post
              For the part in bold , well I never knew we had to build up the credentials in terms of miles for re-directing information at right place. I have done my part of "biking" whenever I could/can and more over you never know for what so ever reason some one is on saddle or not !
              Karthik & Manish - do not want to get into fight but it was a general sharing because Pune guys are involved in cornering, thought makes sense for quick access. Would resist sharing the info on cornering on this thread.
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                • Added my name in the list. C ya guys.

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                  Time - 8pm

                  Link for map - Paud Road to Paradise Cafe & Inn on The Lake - Google Maps

                  Now there are two ways you can reach this place - I do not want any confusion neither anyone left behind so keeping this approach.

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                  • Hero Impulse - Motocross jumps - YouTube
                    sigpicThe Moto Cafe - India's first bike theme cafe @ Chandni Chowk

                    The Moto Cafe video -
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XztkK4ej2U

                    My Youtube channel

                    http://www.youtube.com/user/niksdevil666

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                    • Originally posted by kartikpai View Post
                      For the part in bold , well I never knew we had to build up the credentials in terms of miles for re-directing information at right place. I have done my part of "biking" whenever I could/can and more over you never know for what so ever reason some one is on saddle or not !
                      Hey Kartik, I think you have misunderstood the statement completely.

                      What I meant was the person who put it up on wikipedia did not seem to have done much biking. There was absolutely no allusion to you or your biking credentials in my take. I hope you understand now?

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                      • Originally posted by icemang View Post
                        Hey Kartik, I think you have misunderstood the statement completely.

                        What I meant was the person who put it up on wikipedia did not seem to have done much biking. There was absolutely no allusion to you or your biking credentials in my take. I hope you understand now?
                        Ops sorry manish, I actually thought that whatever was written was for me . Anyways got it now .
                        Into hibernation mode .

                        Contact me for the following riding gears .
                        1) Alpine stars bionic knee guards
                        2) DSG Primal gloves
                        3) DSG Nero Jacket Super Large Size.

                        Pick up - Pashan , Pune
                        Drop - Pashan , Pune
                        Timings: After 8:00 pm .
                        Rules:
                        1.)You crash it , you buy it ! Simple !
                        2.) No lending for more than 2 times to a single person.
                        Contact Number : 91585 18488.

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                        • Originally posted by Sumit_B View Post
                          Added my name in the list. C ya guys.

                          [/B]
                          Adding my name...

                          Dhaba Dinner G2G - Saturday - 21-4-2012

                          Venue - Paradise Cafe

                          Time - 8pm

                          Link for map - Paud Road to Paradise Cafe & Inn on The Lake - Google Maps

                          Now there are two ways you can reach this place - I do not want any confusion neither anyone left behind so keeping this approach.

                          1) Meet at TMC - The Moto Cafe by 6pm and leave by 6.15pm with the group.

                          or

                          2) Reach Paradise Cafe on your own by 8pm by looking up to the link.

                          Please add up your name in the respective field.

                          #Confirmed Members
                          1) Eshan Sarpotdar - Eshan P180
                          2) Anant Bhatia - Antz Bin
                          3) Deepak Pathania - Rockrz
                          4) Akash Dingre - RedFlash
                          5) Rohit Chaudhary - Rohitlc
                          6) Krishna Raghunathan - Professor Biker
                          7) Utsavchs
                          8) Sumit_B
                          9) Kinshuk Arya - kinshuk.arya

                          #Tentative Members
                          1) Kartik Pai -Kartikpai
                          2) Vyom Rastogi - AntiqueBlue

                          PS
                          All safety gears and document rules on Pg.1 apply.

                          Please add up your confirmation.

                          THOSE WITHOUT "SAFETY" GEARS WILL BE SENT BACK, NO "SAFETY"GEAR NO RIDE.
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                          • Adding Rohit Mule's name too in the list as he confirmed too.


                            #Confirmed Members
                            1) Eshan Sarpotdar - Eshan P180
                            2) Anant Bhatia - Antz Bin
                            3) Deepak Pathania - Rockrz
                            4) Akash Dingre - RedFlash
                            5) Rohit Chaudhary - Rohitlc
                            6) Krishna Raghunathan - Professor Biker
                            7) Utsavchs
                            8) Sumit_B
                            9) Kinshuk Arya - kinshuk.arya
                            10) Rohit Mule - Rohit300

                            #Tentative Members
                            1) Kartik Pai -Kartikpai
                            2) Vyom Rastogi - AntiqueBlue
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                            • Originally posted by kartikpai View Post
                              Ops sorry manish, I actually thought that whatever was written was for me . Anyways got it now .
                              Never mind, misunderstandings are best cleared pronto.

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                              • Adding My name as well!!!

                                Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post
                                Adding Rohit Mule's name too in the list as he confirmed too.


                                #Confirmed Members
                                1) Eshan Sarpotdar - Eshan P180
                                2) Anant Bhatia - Antz Bin
                                3) Deepak Pathania - Rockrz
                                4) Akash Dingre - RedFlash
                                5) Rohit Chaudhary - Rohitlc
                                6) Krishna Raghunathan - Professor Biker
                                7) Utsavchs
                                8) Sumit_B
                                9) Kinshuk Arya - kinshuk.arya
                                10) Rohit Mule - Rohit300
                                11.) Hardik Chaudhary- Devil's Assassin

                                #Tentative Members
                                1) Kartik Pai -Kartikpai
                                2) Vyom Rastogi - AntiqueBlue
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