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  • Mumbai Safety Meet : for the Greater good

    THE OUTCOME:
    Mumbai Biking Fraternity Safety Meet

    Around 15 guys were present for the meet n had successfully put their contribution in making our roads safe for ourselves as well as for others.
    Now I made a point to discuss whatever was discussed n decided at Pune Safety meet.

    4 senior guys had come from MRC (Mumbai Rider's club) on my request n now we know that one more group will fine-tune itself. "for the Greater Good", apart from xbhpians.


    What We discussed & decided:
    "For the Greater Good"

    1) We started with a normal discussion about what exactly happened at Lavasa incident. Here I saw people were filled with rumors n nothing else.
    So I cleared the air n explained the things in exactly Sagarr46's words.

    2)Now we started with safety discussions n finalized things on implementing of some STRICT Rules to be followed by Seniors n Newbies alike. Anyone found without proper Riding gear or valid Bike Documents during Pre-Ride check-ups will be sent home straight away, n if the guy tries to argue, strict action will be taken like putting a permanent Ban from our Clan.


    3) FORMATION RIDING: This age-old argument continues to bother our clan still, so it was the first thing we tried to sort out. Its a simple fight between Rippers & Moderate Riders.
    **Moderate riders: had always blamed Rippers of being fast (I thought thats why we were called that in the first place) & they always Ripp n speed away as soon as we enter a Highway & meet only at the destination. So whats the point of group riding?
    **Rippers say: Dont we all come out on the weekends to have fun? to do what we like to do, to do what we resist doing in the city all the week? We ride together coz we are like minded, but most imp thing is we come out to have fun & for recreation.
    OUTCOME: From now onwards we will divide into 2 to 3 groups (3 only when numbers are too high) We'll have 2 Leaders & two Tailing guys.
    First group will consist of all the Rippers (riding around 90+kmph), so the Leader & Tailing guys has to be Rippers. Second group will consist of moderate riders & NEWBIES (riding at max of 70-80 kmph) having a a Leader & tali ender of the same genre.
    Both groups will be meeting during short tea breaks.


    4) LEADERS & TAIL'ers: A leader will check & make sure no one passes him, while maintaining safe speeds for the group. A Leader for a certain ride will be the only person who knows the road well & who rides well.
    While a Tailing guy will make sure no one is left behind & it will be his duty to inform the Leader if sumone slows down or stops, so the group can come to a halt or start riding slow till everyone joins back.
    By Old_Fox sir: The leaders should make sure during the pre-ride brief that everyone has to maintain the slot he/she starts with. There should be NO OVERTAKING at all amongst the group members. And if each rider keeps an eye on the one immediately behind him through his RVM's, there shall be no 'straying' of the group members.


    5) OTHER RIDERS: Everyone needs to keep an eye on the person behind &religiously following the one ahead.


    6) RVMs: Used to keep an eye on the Riders behind you & the overtaking 4 wheeled beasts. Must for every bike or NO RIDE.


    7)RIDING GEARS: NO GEAR NO RIDE, as simple as that.
    Everything mentioned below is compulsory
    HELMET: Full face only & tight head fit
    JACKET: Armoured OR a thick jacket but accompanied with atleast Elbow guards.
    GLOVES: Riding or Leather
    KNEE/SHIN GUARD: Even the skating knee gusrda will do, still try to get the full Guards.
    RIDING BOOTS / SPORT SHOES: To kittos/chappals/formal shoes. Strictly tight fitting sport shoes or even better if riding shoes.


    8) DOCUMENTS: NO DOCUMENTS NO RIDE, again as simple as that.
    which needs to be carried (All in originals). Better keep 'em under the seat with your first aid kit.
    1)License
    2)RC
    3)Insurance
    4)PUC



    7) FIRST AID: During the Pune Safety Meet, NV (senior Pune xbhpian) mentioned about a First Aid Training Camp conducted by the Government of India / Red Cross, for FREE. So we here at MSM, decided to take arange a similar camp with GOI for all the Riders in Mumbai or whoever is interested. It is not manadatory as we cant force anyone to do so, but the bigger the number, better the safety. It'll help every individual to enhance the knowledge of First Aid or What to do if an accident happens, how to deal with the victim & that will surely help us save a life if not all. A few members in Mumbai clan (Ajinkya, Harsh, etc.) already had that training as the part of their job.

    8) FIRST AID KIT: It is mabdatory forEvery member to keep a BASIC first aid kit with them. The kit can rest under your seats all the time with your Bike papers causing no disturbance in ur riding & speed.


    9)RIDING STYLE: Know your riding abilities & develope your own riding style n skills. Dont try to copy or imitate anyone, it will leave you in a mess in the end.
    If you like a certain Rider's antics, may it be cornering on ghats, Stunting or anything, dont try to copy at first. Wait for him to stop, then go n ask him about the techniques & learn from him, practice it in safe environments n then do it in open.


    10) Bike's mechanical condition: As Ketan discribes it, its the physical condition of the bike. Every month or if possible before each long ride/tour/xbhp meets, get your Bike properly checked & serviced. If you have the basic knowledge of your bike, you can check that yourself as well. The most important things to check are: Handlebar (it shouldnt be loose or bent), Rims (check for the cracks), Tyres (check for the cracks), Brakes (should work PERFECTLY), Forks (again check for the cracks n bends) etc.


    11)TOURING: Nothing mandatory here but a warning & a suggestion that is very much helpful. We request you guys not to travel/ride/tour solo, take atleast another Biker with you riding along n can be very helpful if anything happens to sumone. Atleast he will be able to look out for help or call the police/ambulance or sumthing.


    12)RIDER DETAIL LIST: A list which is already in the making. This will be printed n will be handed out to each memeber & they should carry it along with the First Aid Kit & Documents.
    This will consist of:
    *Each Rider's full name
    *Residential Address & ph no.
    *two emergency contact nos.
    *Blood group
    *Alergies (if any)



    13)EMERGENCY CONTACT LIST: Another nice idea from senior Pune xbhpian Tourer_Kashif.
    We should carry/note-down numbers of the major places like hospital / Police station / highway helpline numbers, en-route to Riding destination.
    Even you are riding alone to some new place, try to note down the numbers provided on highways.
    What more we can do is that we can make a list of all the highways around with all possible Emergency helpline nos. on that way. Get it printed along with our RIDER DETAIL LIST.


    14)A MEDICAL VAN with a DOC: An ingenious idea of Sagar46 & other Pune xbhp members. During all our one day rides to ghats n elsewhere, where we go to release our weekly frustration, we'll keep a HIRED medical Van, a Doctor in it, with proper first Aid. So that if anything MAJOR happens, we dont have to waste time in calling an Ambulence or searching for a Hospital. It'll roughly cost us Rs.1000/2000 & we all contribute for that. Each individual will have to pay max Rs.200 or less n thats not much for your life. Even if someones broke for a ride, we can manage that.
    Also, If arranging / hiring a medical van with a doctor for every ride proves difficult and expensive, One of the member can volunteer to drive down ( a car) for the planned ride instead and the other riders can pitch in for the car's fuel.This will ensure that a backup vehicle is always available to carry the injured immediately to the hospital in case of a minor mishap.
    Though I agree its not possible for the TOURs.
    For this thing again a MEET will be held soon with all the members present (specially seniors) so that we can GO with the idea from next month itself.


    15)MEDICAL INSURANCE: Every Rider is requested to get a MI, as basic one covers upto 1Lac to 2 Lac & you just have to pay Rs.500/month ONLY. Not much for your life.


    ..tO be continued...
    (As we gather more idea from around the world)
    Last edited by spiderweb; 02-19-2010, 01:40 PM.

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    Great initiative! It is great to see members taking initiative on their own and not relying on the mods or the 'caretakers' of xBhp. This is what we want, and this what our country wants!
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    • #3
      Cool...looks good on paper...now for the tough part of executing it...hope this will be followed religiously ....
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      • #4
        Great initiative. Keep up the good work.
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        • #5
          Great Step-Up...!! I strongly hope this is actually followed. If it is, each ride will be safe, disciplined & mishaps-free.. Fulltoo Fun..!!


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          • #6
            Originally posted by rachitkohli View Post
            Great Step-Up...!! I strongly hope this is actually followed. If it is, each ride will be safe, disciplined & mishaps-free.. Fulltoo Fun..!!
            +1

            Guys, we from pune xBhp have been following these guidelines strictly for last couple of months. It has made all the rides absolutely safe and they are actually not difficult to follow.

            Leaders ask us newbees to check their documents and gear and it puts pressure on us to comply fully. We had to send veteran riders back for missing something. But doing it once is enough. Everyone gets the message pretty quick.
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            • #7
              gr8 initiative spidey... ALL THE BEST

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              • #8
                These are some rules, are were very much required...
                great initiative....

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                • #9
                  riding is going to be more fun & safer now..
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                  • #10
                    This is a much needed and well-taken initiative. And I am glad to see interest being shown for 'normal' riding. Usually, the real n serious attention was only reserved for the dramatic and spectacular aspects of riding like getting either wheel up or getting either knee down .

                    The 'compromise' achieved between the faster and slower riders is just wonderful. Lets hope this speed difference does not give rise to a hierarchy and everyone starts 'striving' to rise above and into the 'fast' group.

                    A good, safe and conscientious rider needs to be respected for what he is...not depending on how fast he can get from point A to point B.

                    Originally posted by spiderweb View Post

                    4)LEADERS & TAIL'ers: A leader will check & make sure no one passes him, while maintaining safe speeds for the group. A Leader for a certain ride will be the only person who knows the road well & who rides well.
                    While a Tailing guy will make sure no one is left behind & it will be his duty to inform the Leader if sumone slows down or stops, so the group can come to a halt or start riding slow till everyone joins back.

                    5)OTHER RIDERS: Everyone needs to keep an eye on the person behind &religiously following the one ahead.
                    I have one suggestion for group rides. The leaders should make sure during the pre-ride brief that everyone has to maintain the slot he/she starts with. There should be NO OVERTAKING at all amongst the group members. And if each rider keeps an eye on the one immediately behind him through his RVM's, there shall be no 'straying' of the group members.

                    Looking forward to reading the rest. All these are immensely valuable inputs and we shall eventually be able to hammer out an exhaustive and detailed procedural set for almost every riding activity. I request all xBhp chapters in different cities to work out on similar lines and come up with their inputs. Lets brain-storm and generate a wealth of ideas on safe motorcycling.
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                    • #11
                      Yes, as OF sir mentioned.. Overtaking without any unavoidable situations among the group should be avoided.
                      I would like to mention is,
                      > Avoid riding 'side-by-side' & prefer staggered (zig-zag) pattern.

                      > Overtaking only from the Right, strictly.
                      > A max speed has to be decided, which wont be exceeded any point of time, throughout the ride.


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                      • #12
                        Good to see the thread up! and thats a good compromise, I think I know where I will fit now and hopefully there wont be any insane riders overtaking me from the right (lol-Remember Panvel ride)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by spiderweb View Post
                          THE OUTCOME:
                          Mumbai Biking Fraternity Safety Meet


                          OUTCOME: From now onwards we will divide into 2 to 3 groups (3 only when numbers are too high) We'll have 2 Leaders & two Tailing guys.
                          First group will consist of all the Rippers (riding around 90+kmph), so the Leader & Tailing guys has to be Rippers. Second group will consist of moderate riders & NEWBIES (riding at max of 70-80 kmph) having a a Leader & tali ender of the same genre.
                          Both groups will be meeting during short tea breaks.

                          4)LEADERS & TAIL'ers: A leader will check & make sure no one passes him, while maintaining safe speeds for the group. A Leader for a certain ride will be the only person who knows the road well & who rides well.
                          While a Tailing guy will make sure no one is left behind & it will be his duty to inform the Leader if sumone slows down or stops, so the group can come to a halt or start riding slow till everyone joins back.

                          5)OTHER RIDERS: Everyone needs to keep an eye on the person behind &religiously following the one ahead.


                          ..tO be continued...
                          (will write the rest, tomorrow)
                          Wow .. Great initiative & looks like we are certainly going to benefit out of it in long term.
                          Riding in 2 groups would be a good solution if followed religiously by all riders. I had a small query though. How are we all going to decide who is going to ride with Rippers & who will be a part of moderate riders. I guess atleast 70% of the riders will be willing to be a part of Rippers since moderate riders would not be going beyond 70-80 kmph in most cases & all of us would be willing to cruise above 80 kmph atleast on free roads. So there would be a bigger group of rippers & its obvious that it would be more difficult for many rippers to be in formation at 100+ speeds.
                          Therefore I would just like to get an idea how the groups would be formed so as to strike a balance between number of Rippers & Moderate riders. Any basic criterias or broad guidelines?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by mitz View Post
                            Therefore I would just like to get an idea how the groups would be formed so as to strike a balance between number of Rippers & Moderate riders. Any basic criterias or broad guidelines?
                            That the individual rider needs to decide in which group he wants to ride in..!! After that any of the senior rider from the group can take a call on that to take a final decision.

                            @ Rohit: Gladly, the thread is up. Hope everyone follow the points laid down here.

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                            • #15
                              mitz:most of us already know the riding styles of each individual.
                              No new member will be allowed to ride with rippers for 1 or 2 rides untill someone senior gives the go ahead the next time onwards.
                              simple as that.
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