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Old 01-02-2012, 04:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a 2007 Discover 135 that was registered in Jamshedpur, now I've shifted to Kolkata & this is where the whole problem starts..
I inquired from the RTO office wherein I was quoted INR 8000 (including 'ghoos'/bribe) to re-register + tax + address change
Now, many people suggested that even if I don't register its fine if all the papers are clear, all my other papers are up to date, the only problem is that I didn't renew my insurance because I wanted to buy new insurance after re-registering my bike in Kolkata.
Now my questions are, can I buy a new insurance with my old registration? But will I be able to buy 1, because NOC has been issued in the previous state? Also, the NOC & other papers have been made with my old address, what if I want to buy the new insurance & have my new address on it.

Please help a poor soul from being crushed into a pulp by the oh so generous Govt. of India & its HIGHLY efficient employees.
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-03-2012, 12:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
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IMHO, if you own the vehicle, you don't need to reregister the vehicle if you're staying for less than a year (even if you do so, there's a dirty trick). You'll only need to pay state tax & then keep riding. I remember it reading somewhere in xBhp; unfortunately, I'm unable to recall the thread. I'll try to Google for you, meanwhile have a look at these threads...

Transporting Your Motorcycle(s) - Universal Thread.
Need advice for bike transfer
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/258743-post.html
RTO and other Information while Driving in India
Right Procedure Transfer of vehicle to Pune from other state
Right Procedure No objection certificate for vehicle transfer
Right Procedure Driving vehicle without re-registation in other states
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:12 PM   #4 (permalink)
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IMHO, if you own the vehicle, you don't need to reregister the vehicle if you're staying for less than a year (even if you do so, there's a dirty trick). You'll only need to pay state tax & then keep riding. I remember it reading somewhere in xBhp; unfortunately, I'm unable to recall the thread. I'll try to Google for you, meanwhile have a look at these threads...

Transporting Your Motorcycle(s) - Universal Thread.
Need advice for bike transfer
http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/258743-post.html
RTO and other Information while Driving in India
Right Procedure Transfer of vehicle to Pune from other state
Right Procedure No objection certificate for vehicle transfer
Right Procedure Driving vehicle without re-registation in other states
Thank you Aargee Sir, I went through all the links except
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says we don't need to.

I'll have to verify it with my local RTO (as if they'll be of any help but still...)
Moreover I was amazed to find that the rate of registration is 7% of the invoice cost (I'm assuming the ex-showroom price) which comes out to be roughly around INR 3100 whereas I was quoted INR 3500+ (I didn't hire any agent) which means either they don't know themselves or I'm being robbed
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^^^ Abi - Yes, its 7% of invoice & ex-showroom; this also means you'll need to produce the original receipt of the bike (hope you have it handy)

I could be wrong, but, thinking out of brain, a re-registration may not be required as long as you've paid the tax to the state 2. This also means that you're eligible to get back the road tax you've paid to the state 1 on prorata basis.

As long as tax is paid & insurance renewed from the same old insurance company & you own the vehicle, all other things should fall in place automatically.
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^^^ Abi - Yes, its 7% of invoice & ex-showroom; this also means you'll need to produce the original receipt of the bike (hope you have it handy)

I could be wrong, but, thinking out of brain, a re-registration may not be required as long as you've paid the tax to the state 2. This also means that you're eligible to get back the road tax you've paid to the state 1 on prorata basis.

As long as tax is paid & insurance renewed from the same old insurance company & you own the vehicle, all other things should fall in place automatically.
Read up the whole of the Motor Vehicles Act 1988, Govt. of West Bengal, under section 47(1) if I'm not wrong, says its mandatory to re-register the vehicle if the duration of stay is more than a year & there is no scope of paying temporary road tax for 1 year.
I'll have to see what can be done.
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You have to transfer your bike (legally) from jamshedpur to kolkata, for getting insurance From there. Its not about re-registration.
This way you'll get a valid, legal insurance.
But there's a trick too, come down to jamshedpur get the insurance from the company (dont tell them about the transfer thingy) and you're done.
But you can't claim if you've gone the latter way.
Its legal enough but useless just formality kind of thing.
Btw, was your previous year's insurance copy issued from jamshedpur?

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You have to transfer your bike (legally) from jamshedpur to kolkata, for getting insurance From there. Its not about re-registration.
This way you'll get a valid, legal insurance.
But there's a trick too, come down to jamshedpur get the insurance from the company (dont tell them about the transfer thingy) and you're done.
But you can't claim if you've gone the latter way.
Its legal enough but useless just formality kind of thing.
Btw, was your previous year's insurance copy issued from jamshedpur?
it has already been legally brought to kolkata, my previous insurance was bought from Jamshedpur.
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it has already been legally brought to kolkata, my previous insurance was bought from Jamshedpur.

then take all your and your bike's paper (NOC, registration paper, invoice etc) to some insurance company and get it done.
We did the same for all our vehicles. no re-registration needed just transfer it, pay road tax on pro-rata basis and get it insured.
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then take all your and your bike's paper (NOC, registration paper, invoice etc) to some insurance company and get it done.
We did the same for all our vehicles. no re-registration needed just transfer it, pay road tax on pro-rata basis and get it insured.
if it was so easy would I have made my life so complicated just for the sake of fun? Atleast read whatever I've written...

Tax cannot be paid on pro-rata basis in Kolkata & why would the insuring company insure a bike in Kolkata when a bike has no registration here...
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