Bibhu

Untill Bajaj decides to ditch that decade old pulsar chassis made out of mastodon bones, other improvements are useless.

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yuv_biKING

I quite don't agree with your point... their improvements are clearly visible and the statement "useless improvements" doesn't really suite well to the scenario...

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veryhiphop

Old chassis...same old look for tank and other parts i.e. silencer, shockers, handle, meter console...almost every thing look same as of other pulsar/xcd

Binoy

Atleast change the design... i think Bajaj is afraid to test any other bike...... B%^T up in the air...

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Samarth 619

Bibhu has a valid point. Even I have a P180 UG3. Its' Chassis is so-so... I performed a "knee-almost-touching-down" type lean at a flyover in my city, on it.

But, I was riding the RTR 180 and one lean on the fly-over told me what its chassis is made of. Chassis was great, (if only tyres could match it) and clearly better than all the Pulsars... (except 135 LS Maybe)

Fat Forks, and that circular swingarm really don't make a hell lot of difference.
Something in the chassis does need to change, to match up... Maybe a rear Monoshock+different chassis layout?

udayrrr

why with every update bajaj mainly focus on bhp ratings
why not focus on its handling and cornering abilities and also reliability(ok it has improved a lot from its first gen but why not improve to next level)

if its coming with p135 like chassis its ok
but its time for bajaj to come with mono shock setup

hypergamer

Hmmmm, two big playes in the market doing two important things but no use as they are only and only going in one direction none of them is looking at the other side like the bigger pulsars need a good frame and the Karizma ZMR can be star if it has like 22 bhp will match its size

Hero honda : Everyone knows that they should power pack the karizma with some more punch so that it can survive the competition , but instead HH launched ZMR which is indeed a very very nice machine but almost same power (Good handling looks but same old power)

Bajaj : Now bajaj has been providing power upgrades every now and then to almost all the models but in terms of looks apart from the 220 almost no drastic change except the P135. (decent handling good power but 4 year old chasis can be a better one Pulsar 220)

The point here is why cant we have a bike with good power like P220 F good handling like R15 including chasis and reliability and refinement like HH or honda!!!!!! what say guys

Moderators sorry for the OT but couldnt stop myself from sharing my thought

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2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - My Beast
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anirudh fz1

knowing bajaj since 2003 this what they will do
take the 135 4 valve bike & put th150cc engine into it & sell it to u as a brand NEW bike ,after that they will put the 200 cc engine with some minor mods.thats all
hope this puts all gossiping to rest ,

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hypergamer

For that matter a 4 valve 220 cc engine would be amazing!!!!!

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On to my 4th pulsar hope Bajaj keeps me goin!!!!

2005 Pulsar 150 UG 2 with ma cousin
2006 Pulsar 180 UG 3 - For Experimenting
2007 Pulsar 220 DTS-Fi SOLD
2010 Pulsar 220 DTS-i - My Beast
1984 YEZDI 250 CLASSIC My dads SBK
1987 YEZDI 250 CLII On a Vacation!!!!


2 FI's in ma list so far
The FUEL INJECTED
And FASTEST INDIAN

Waitin for more ..........

Bibhu

I am not saying that Bajaj has not made improvement in their bikes. They have. To a point where like it or not, other manufacturers almost follow their lead. However all this improvement becomes unusable if the frame they put it in can’t utilize it fully? The frame design it self has a high center of gravity which makes the bike a moderate handler. It is not completely their fault either. It is their lack of experience. Their no way attitude to racing world makes them very backward when it comes to the handling department. TVS pits their machines directly in the path of Bajaj and wins because of their racing experience which makes their bikes extremely agile where bajaj ends up with really powerful commuters or tourers.

A monoshock is a far cry, just modifying the chassis a bit to have low C of G will make pulsars far better handlers. Like I have stated before, the Chassis was made for 18 inch wheels a decade ago. It definitely needs some changes to its stress points and design. Also some weight reduction won’t hurt either.

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