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HydBiker · 04-28-2009, 03:08 PM

@kurtrules, v_310 & others who did it before..

against the day wide route plan you guys have given please mention teh approx distance between places and terrain & nallah warnings. that would be great to get an understanding of the demand ahead of us for each day.

darkknight · 04-28-2009, 03:16 PM

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rossiter · 04-28-2009, 03:17 PM

@kurtrules: Not sure if recommending diamox everyday is a good idea. IMO, if we keep ourself hydrated and sleep well the previous day and follow the altitude rule while sleeping, medication is not necessary. I made it in 2004 with just a dull headache, but I kept myself hydrated with 2 litres of bottled water spiked with Electral.

I'm no medic but I'd prefer resorting to medication as a last resort.

The rest of the info looks good, but again as a small addition, trying to make a dash from Keylong to Leh is very doable, but sort of against the point of the trip, and will be a bit strenuous IMO. Not recommended. I stayed overnight in Pang which was where my headache started. But I could comfortably ride to Leh the next day at my own pace and made the best of the route. Not something one should ideally do. But if there is a time constraint, then the schedule you posted is quite alright.

There are tons of itineraries with all kinds of permutations and combinations floating around on the Net. A simple Google search will suffice

TheRedPill · 04-28-2009, 04:05 PM

Code:

Day1: Delhi - Manali 500+ kms
Day2: Manali - Sarchu approx 200kms
Day3: Sarchu - Pang - Leh - again approx 240 kms

Do you really want to stretch yourself that much?
I suggest take it easy, why do you want to run away from the places in between manali and leh.
Rest all looks ok to me.

kurtrules · 04-28-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rossiter

@kurtrules: Not sure if recommending diamox everyday is a good idea. IMO, if we keep ourself hydrated and sleep well the previous day and follow the altitude rule while sleeping, medication is not necessary.

Well, I went all the way without diamox but i have actually seen people running short of breath and puking madly just because of the altitude gain. Better safe than sorry!

But then again, to each his own!

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Code:
Day1: Delhi - Manali 500+ kmsDay2: Manali - Sarchu approx 200kmsDay3: Sarchu - Pang - Leh - again approx 240 kms
Do you really want to stretch yourself that much?
I suggest take it easy, why do you want to run away from the places in between manali and leh.
Rest all looks ok to me.

If you please, you could make this a three day itenarary! Its your call, you can modify it your way. Many do it in 3, many more do it in 2. Either way, it zeroes down on you. Punctuality is the key here. You wake up early, cross all nullahs before noon, and you'll face no problem and do stretches with ease in 12/13 hours ample breaks and clicks to add. But then if you are a lazy starter, you might get stuck up in many places.

groupbhp · 04-28-2009, 06:38 PM

-Diomax should only be taken in Manali at night for the day ahead
-Doing Delhi-Manali is no tough task in a small group. The distance is around 560km and doable in 12-13 hours very easily

groupbhp · 04-28-2009, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rossiter

But my preferred weapon of choice on a Leh trip would be a P200 (problem-free, in every which way), or an RX135 (which would of course involve logistics).

And not the Karizma? Isnt the ZMA the best tourer and sports tourer in India? Again and again the same has been discussed across forums
Secondly, how can you overlook the P200's hard seat pal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurtrules

The basic itenarary you can follow ex-delhi is: (Including Kashmir)

Day1: Delhi - Manali
Day2: Manali - Sarchu
Day3: Sarchu - Pang - Leh
Day4: Leh and around (Visit the various monastries and arrange the permits).
Day5: Leh - khardungla - Diskit (Falls in Nubra)
Day6: Diskit - Hunder - Panamik - Leh
Day7: Leh - Pangong Tso
Day8: Pangong Tso - Leh
Day9: Leh - Kargil
Day10: Kargil - Drass - Sonamarg - Srinagar
Day11: Srinagar - Jammu - Pathankot
Day12: Pathankot - Delhi

Some tips and suggestions (Any bike you take!!)

* On day 2 you would be rising from 6500 feet(Manali) to 14,200 feet(Sarchu). So there is a good chance that you might be hit by AMS. Have a tablet of diamox the night before you leave for Sarchu. And have it everynight till you reach Leh. It worked for me. After spending another day in Leh you would have acclamatized to the high altitude, so no issues

* For the permits you may ask your hotel receptionist if you are not in a mood to travel to the DC office for the permits.

* You may also want to stay in keylong on day 2 and then make a rush for leh the next day (around 14 hours). This is to avoid AMS.

* Try to avoid spending night at Pang (14,400 ft). Its normally known as the vomit heaven

* If you are skeptical about travelling to Kashmir than you can come back via the same route(manali - leh) and add tso-moriri in your itenarary.

Ride safe and be light hearted.Be optimistic The bike you will take will NOT break down on you!

Carry proper spares and tools. Am sure you are not keen on travelling solo. Puncture hua toh tyre khol lena, and if by chance your bike breaks down, fling on a truck and carry it to the nearest work shop, you have one in keylong, a few repair works in Sarchu and then its Leh!! Done..no worries..no issues ...have fun

Its just another road, not the end of the world!

For any other information feel free to ask.

My take on your post:
1. DAY 7 : why not add an attempt to Marsimek la (Bike India guy did it last year)
2. Day 2 : AMS is for sure to set in. Every rider who takes a night at Manali and next at Sarchu is bound to get it. Diamox and lots of water just helps combat it to an extent though
3. Keylong to Leh isnt that of a rush. The last 80km to Leh are in a very good condition. So leaving at 7am from Keylong can easily see u in Leh by 6pm. That is if u r in a small group
4. If not Kashmir, i would say do Spiti. Worth it.

hitanshu · 04-28-2009, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by prabhubravo

Sirji, no bike gives above 30 there..

Nopes. P180s easily give 45ish mileage fully loaded.

But yes, most bullets don't give above 30 - but I guess we need to expand the definition of bikes here, I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by groupbhp

3. Keylong to Leh isnt that of a rush. The last 80km to Leh are in a very good condition. So leaving at 7am from Keylong can easily see u in Leh by 6pm. That is if u r in a small group
4. If not Kashmir, i would say do Spiti. Worth it.

Umm. Kashmir IS heaven on earth and worth driving through. If nothing else, just Sonamarg and a rip through will do.

7am Keylong and 6am Leh? 2007 May, not even sumos managed those kinda speeds. Average speeds of 33kph mean much faster riding, no breaks/pics etc.

Not happening. Esp since you'd be a hero to try and take on Tanglangla at ~3pm.

groupbhp · 04-28-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitanshu

Umm. Kashmir IS heaven on earth and worth driving through. If nothing else, just Sonamarg and a rip through will do.

7am Keylong and 6am Leh? 2007 May, not even sumos managed those kinda speeds. Average speeds of 33kph mean much faster riding, no breaks/pics etc.

Not happening. Esp since you'd be a hero to try and take on Tanglangla at ~3pm.

Tau : I quoted him like the way he said 'IF' you wanna skip Kashmir. I just gave another option.
Keylong to Leh is around 360km. Do you know that normally from Sarchu to Leh, it takes around 7 riding hours? About 10km after Tanglang la, roads turn into tarmac for the last 99km or so : doable in 2 hours. trust me : there are stretches where you can cruise at 80-85km/h for miles with ease

That said, Keylong to Sarchu is very much possible in 5 hours, taking the whole timing to 12 hours
360km in 12 hours is very much possible. I assume you havent done Leh last year : the roads have really improved. Any decent guy on a good bike can easily avg 35km/h or so on the whole 360km stretch. Again, my 2 cents

rossiter · 04-28-2009, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by groupbhp

And not the Karizma? Isnt the ZMA the best tourer and sports tourer in India? Again and again the same has been discussed across forums
Secondly, how can you overlook the P200's hard seat pal?

Just which part of "My weapon of choice is a P200" did you miss?

P200 has a hard seat? Really?

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TheRedPill Deep down the rabbit hole Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,132	Code: Day1: Delhi - Manali 500+ kms Day2: Manali - Sarchu approx 200kms Day3: Sarchu - Pang - Leh - again approx 240 kms Do you really want to stretch yourself that much? I suggest take it easy, why do you want to run away from the places in between manali and leh. Rest all looks ok to me. Last edited by TheRedPill; 04-28-2009 at 04:07 PM.

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rossiter Moderator Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,267	@kurtrules: Not sure if recommending diamox everyday is a good idea. IMO, if we keep ourself hydrated and sleep well the previous day and follow the altitude rule while sleeping, medication is not necessary. I made it in 2004 with just a dull headache, but I kept myself hydrated with 2 litres of bottled water spiked with Electral. I'm no medic but I'd prefer resorting to medication as a last resort. The rest of the info looks good, but again as a small addition, trying to make a dash from Keylong to Leh is very doable, but sort of against the point of the trip, and will be a bit strenuous IMO. Not recommended. I stayed overnight in Pang which was where my headache started. But I could comfortably ride to Leh the next day at my own pace and made the best of the route. Not something one should ideally do. But if there is a time constraint, then the schedule you posted is quite alright. There are tons of itineraries with all kinds of permutations and combinations floating around on the Net. A simple Google search will suffice

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