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**Honda_CBF** · 03-25-2011, 07:32 AM

Originally posted by kailashnj View Post

I am not sure about the kinetic honda - but tell me how is the engine oil poured in the engine in your scooter - does it go directly to the engine or is there an auxilary tank.

I understand that the carb would be choked and that is why I was saying do not put it in the Petrol Tank.

We want the boric to stick to the engine parts and not the fuel tank and hence makes no sense if you put it in the fuel tank as there is no gaurantee that it will reach the engine and even if it reaches in the engine it will be in a very less quantity which means it will not sure your purpose. So its always better to add boric + acetone + oil directly to the engine oil to reap benefits otherwise you will not be able to see the benefits.

kinetic does have an AUXILIARY 2T TANK but its NOT WORKING that's why I'm using pre mix. And also I'm not putting this solution in petrol tank but in the petrol tube. And I'd also like to mention because of acetone blocking of carb is not that severe.

**kailashnj** · 03-25-2011, 10:48 AM

Cool Honda_CBF - what do you feel after using the boric solution in your kinetic - do you feel any difference in the bike or is it still the same. Provide some feedback on the same for the benefit of all the other members

**princesirohi** · 03-25-2011, 11:13 AM

hey guys are you using normal boric powder or some special one.

**psr** · 03-25-2011, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

hey guys are you using normal boric powder or some special one.

You buy it from Pharmacy ...available in 10gms packet.

**Honda_CBF** · 03-26-2011, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by kailashnj View Post

Cool Honda_CBF - what do you feel after using the boric solution in your kinetic - do you feel any difference in the bike or is it still the same. Provide some feedback on the same for the benefit of all the other members

cold start problem is gone, engine is smooth, no visible smoke.
Btw my engine needs reboring that's the main reason behind using boric acid. So i'm not in the position to give you a complete review. I guess now i can postpone reboring till next year.

**Centaur** · 06-26-2011, 01:28 PM

Well, I've gone ahead and done it!!
I've given my engine the boric powder treatment -- done about 350 kms on it. The engine seems smoother, but then again, that could be the new engine oil. Anyways, I guess I'll have to wait for at least some more kms to really notice the effects, but yes, there have been some noticeable effects, like cold starts are easier, and idling seems to be very, very steady......

All in all, nothing bad to report, yet.

PS: @PSR: Thanks for your inputs, sir .... will keep you posted

**antz.bin** · 06-26-2011, 05:30 PM

Originally posted by Centaur View Post

Well, I've gone ahead and done it!!
I've given my engine the boric powder treatment -- done about 350 kms on it. The engine seems smoother, but then again, that could be the new engine oil. Anyways, I guess I'll have to wait for at least some more kms to really notice the effects, but yes, there have been some noticeable effects, like cold starts are easier, and idling seems to be very, very steady......

All in all, nothing bad to report, yet.

PS: @PSR: Thanks for your inputs, sir .... will keep you posted

Good that you are experimenting.... But do keep an eye out for clutch slippage. Since you are adding a friction buster to your engine oil. And in wet clutch engined motorcycles like ours.. The engine oil is used for cooling and not lubrication. It will give you a smoother drive and higher fuel efficiency but may cause clutch issues.

**dafc** · 06-26-2011, 05:55 PM

What about 2 stroke engines that use autolube? Mix up boric acid and 2t oil in the side and the autolube will inject it directly into the venturi? Plus the veins in the pump aren't as small as the jets matter of fact the feeder pipe itself has a larger dia than the main jet

hmmm but it could potentially settle down although 2t oil has more viscosity than petrol but with time the boric acid can settle down. But hey empty 2t tank fill up just enough mix that'll do you good for 2-3 days and when you run out of it switch back to normal 2t oil

**psr** · 06-26-2011, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

Good that you are experimenting.... But do keep an eye out for clutch slippage. Since you are adding a friction buster to your engine oil. And in wet clutch engined motorcycles like ours.. The engine oil is used for cooling and not lubrication. It will give you a smoother drive and higher fuel efficiency but may cause clutch issues.

I had thought so initially, but to my surprise it actually reduced the little amount of clutch slip in my old KB100 plates...thinking that it is one of a kind luck i wanted to try on my ZMA which had same clutch slip..how i knew ? the ZMA is supposed to give 15 Kmph for every 1000RPM as per spec, and i found my pre-owned ZMA to be not so..in fact when i accelerate, the RPM will go high and speed will catch up slowly..so I changed to thicker oil and drove for about 300 kms, with nill improvement...so i had nothing to loose by trying this Boric Acid experiment in my ZMA. so poured the mix and took it to a 150 kms trip..by the end of it I did find the engine to be smoother..after another 300 kms the RPM to speed relationship became even better...now the bike RPM and speed increase progressively to-gether, and at 3,750 RPM my bike does 60 Kmph...I have done nothing else..and I can not relate the improvement to any other reason.Finished 1,000 km and now the engine is smooth through the revs.
I am not advocating this for others to follow, but sharing result of my experiment . It is up to the individual to experiment or not and take THE RISK.
This experiment will not yield noticeable difference in engine done less than 10,000 Kms...AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE ON ENGINES WHICH HAD NOT SET IN.AND ENGINES WITH LESS THAN 3,000 Kms ON ODO

**psr** · 06-26-2011, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by dafc View Post

what about 2 stroke engines that use autolube? Mix up boric acid and 2t oil in the side and the autolube will inject it directly into the venturi? Plus the veins in the pump aren't as small as the jets matter of fact the feeder pipe itself has a larger dia than the main jet

hmmm but it could potentially settle down although 2t oil has more viscosity than petrol but with time the boric acid can settle down. But hey empty 2t tank fill up just enough mix that'll do you good for 2-3 days and when you run out of it switch back to normal 2t oil

do not mix with 2 t in tank.or petrol .it will settle to the bottom and block the flow leading to engine seizure,if mixed in 2t oil ,.....and no petrol flow if mixed in petrol .
I had the experience so this is a warning..do not do it in 2 strokers.

**Centaur** · 06-26-2011, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by antz.bin View Post

Good that you are experimenting.... But do keep an eye out for clutch slippage. Since you are adding a friction buster to your engine oil. And in wet clutch engined motorcycles like ours.. The engine oil is used for cooling and not lubrication. It will give you a smoother drive and higher fuel efficiency but may cause clutch issues.

Point noted -- in fact, one thing that I forgot to mention was finding neutral is getting to be as easy as in the old all down or all up transmissions...

no more fiddling around as much as before... it's improved, I would say, about 90%..

And, as PSR said: I am not advocating this for others to follow, but sharing result of my experiment . It is up to the individual to experiment or not and take THE RISK.
This experiment will not yield noticeable difference in engine done less than 10,000 Kms...AND SHOULD NOT BE DONE ON ENGINES WHICH HAD NOT SET IN.AND ENGINES WITH LESS THAN 3,000 Kms ON ODO

**satyenpoojary** · 06-26-2011, 07:37 PM

Tempted to try on the R15.... Any advice?

**Centaur** · 06-26-2011, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by satyenpoojary View Post

Tempted to try on the R15.... Any advice?

How about waiting till I complete 1000 kms on it? Already done about 300 odd, so should take me another week...

**psr** · 06-27-2011, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Centaur View Post

How about waiting till I complete 1000 kms on it? Already done about 300 odd, so should take me another week...

1000 Kms is when the changes are more, and you start taking the bike's smoothness for granted....you will not feel it any different...till you ride another bike...without this treatment..

**satyenpoojary** · 06-27-2011, 12:32 PM

So is it advisable to try this on the forged piston quipped r15?

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