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  • chinmayakar
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    Originally posted by Seamus View Post
    awesome man i was waiting for this post since when. My friend can you post the video of your acceleration and also top speed attended so that we get to know how quick it goes above 120.

    Now other thing is that dont you think istalliing r15's rear tyre would actually make your bike unstable at high speeds?? As it is the tyre looks smaller in size compared to stock 220 in terms of diameter and width also. And besides that since the tyre is thin the tyre would make the ride unstable.

    Abhay shanu who installed a more fatter tyres so that the power is stably delivered on the ground. now i believe your bike is more powerful than abhays and here you are trying to put thinner tyres compared to stock so how does that work out??

    I am newbie in this so please dont take me in a hard way
    Installing R15 tyre was just a thought. R15 tyres wont look good on P220, but if you speak to Joel, you will realise that R15 tyres though skinny, they are lot more capable. Stability wont be an issue, as those tyres have good grip according to him. So, I believe that as he is the one who is most knowledgeable here.

    I like my bike the way she looks, and going to R15 tyres will spoil the look. I like to maintain a balance between form and functionality.

    For the record, my 220 dtsi has MRF Vyde 120 profile tyre which is the same size as the stock, and with increase in power I do not feel any instability or the need to replace with a thicker tyre. May be once Joel comes out with a big bore (230cc block) for 220, then I can think of wider tyres.

    Also, can someone suggest me how to mount a camera, so that the picture of the speedo is stable, you know like the ones Joel installs for capturing acceleration figures. I do not like shaky videos.

    I have a canon 10 MP point and click normal camera, can someone show me how to mount that without damaging my camera? The reason is my camera shoots crystal clear video.

    If not suggest me how to mount my Samsung Wave2 mobile that will shoot stable videos. My mobile too captures video in HD.
    Last edited by chinmayakar; 03-06-2011, 06:35 PM.

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  • Seamus
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    Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
    Hello everyone, I got my bike today from Joel, after further modifications to the engine.
    Whatever Joel has done to the engine, it sure packs a lot more punch now.

    Bike accelerates even more faster now.
    It has become even more fun to ride.

    The aim of the project was to make my 220 dtsi quicker and faster than the Ninja 250. The bike is no doubt a lot more quicker now. However, as per Joel the bike will hit its top speed quicker than before, however to increase the top end will need to put Yamaha R15 tyre at the rear 100/80-17 or find some way to reduce the weight.

    Will try to install R15 tyre at the rear and see how much quicker and faster the bike becomes.

    However, will need to drag with a Ninja 250 to find out if my 220 is quicker than a stock Ninja 250.
    Anyone, from Bangalore willing to meet for a ride to Nandi Hills?

    Also, can someone tell me if theres any other way to reduce weight without removing anything from the bike.

    What I mean is can we substitute\fabricate certain body parts using lighter material?

    Finally, I am happy with the performance gain. Joel, I will come back for some more mods once you are back after the MotoGP season. Hope the Big Bore is ready then



    awesome man i was waiting for this post since when. My friend can you post the video of your acceleration and also top speed attended so that we get to know how quick it goes above 120.

    Now other thing is that dont you think istalliing r15's rear tyre would actually make your bike unstable at high speeds?? As it is the tyre looks smaller in size compared to stock 220 in terms of diameter and width also. And besides that since the tyre is thin the tyre would make the ride unstable.

    Abhay shanu who installed a more fatter tyres so that the power is stably delivered on the ground. now i believe your bike is more powerful than abhays and here you are trying to put thinner tyres compared to stock so how does that work out??

    I am newbie in this so please dont take me in a hard way

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  • chinmayakar
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    Originally posted by gd76 View Post
    Well let me also put in a few words to describe how my bike is running after Joel worked on it, there is no doubt at all that it is running Beautifully, except that there is no FFE. But the difference is tremendous before & after the head was worked on. The engine is damn smooth & refined, I haven't tested the top speed or 0-60 or 0-100 timings but the feel itself says it is quicker. Now I'm pestering him for a big bore, but I believe it will take some time. I'm also very tempted to get the damn fairing out because of all the vibration & the noise. Joel, when are you back in the city, let me know.

    @Chinmayakar: Tried to meet you to see & hear the exhaust, but it seems our work time doesn't match. Anyway will catch up with you one day to feel the exhaust.

    Regards,
    G D
    Sure dude, lets meet some day.

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  • chinmayakar
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    JOel, my bike is always ready for testing. Whenever you need it just let me know

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  • Joel
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    The P220 is quite a capable machine. I'm now tempted to try more things to push it harder. Bajaj has done a good job with the new P220 DTSI.
    It really has the potential to kick a ninja in street trim. On the downside, its heavy has a rock. Some weight trimming should instantly add more to the performance quotient.

    Joel

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  • motormania
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    Site yet to be built. Sticker and monograms will be out in a while. Soon, all the exhausts will be etched/labeled with the Race Concepts logo. Also all the products will have a trademark logo just to keep it exclusive and create a brand identity.
    Very soon, will also be launching carbon fiber (yes the real deal, not sticker or fake plastic) touchy bits for our premium bikes, to give it a signature touch of class. Will start with the R15 and then slowly move to the other models.
    dont forget us, will you. Do keep me updated also. You have mail.

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  • ashu_nik
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    Ahh... Now I am jealous of you DTSI ppl .
    My Joeled FI has hit the roof, it seems. Well, Joel has suggested few more additions but wondering how will I get more of top end here. Playing around with sprockets is one option I am looking at.
    Planning to swap with DTSI block-piston once My bike is over 30K kms.

    Joel, can you please shed some light on "How can we increase the top end?"

    Cheers,
    Ashish

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  • gd76
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    Well let me also put in a few words to describe how my bike is running after Joel worked on it, there is no doubt at all that it is running Beautifully, except that there is no FFE. But the difference is tremendous before & after the head was worked on. The engine is damn smooth & refined, I haven't tested the top speed or 0-60 or 0-100 timings but the feel itself says it is quicker. Now I'm pestering him for a big bore, but I believe it will take some time. I'm also very tempted to get the damn fairing out because of all the vibration & the noise. Joel, when are you back in the city, let me know.

    @Chinmayakar: Tried to meet you to see & hear the exhaust, but it seems our work time doesn't match. Anyway will catch up with you one day to feel the exhaust.

    Regards,
    G D

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  • abhayshanu
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    Chin, congratulations on having the FASTEST 220 IN INDIA!!! Chal ab jab drags hoge tab bombay aaja

    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    Site yet to be built. Sticker and monograms will be out in a while. Soon, all the exhausts will be etched/labeled with the Race Concepts logo. Also all the products will have a trademark logo just to keep it exclusive and create a brand identity.
    Very soon, will also be launching carbon fiber (yes the real deal, not sticker or fake plastic) touchy bits for our premium bikes, to give it a signature touch of class. Will start with the R15 and then slowly move to the other models.
    Awwww come on man, start with the R15 and 220, you will have quite a few buyers.

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  • Joel
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    Site yet to be built. Sticker and monograms will be out in a while. Soon, all the exhausts will be etched/labeled with the Race Concepts logo. Also all the products will have a trademark logo just to keep it exclusive and create a brand identity.
    Very soon, will also be launching carbon fiber (yes the real deal, not sticker or fake plastic) touchy bits for our premium bikes, to give it a signature touch of class. Will start with the R15 and then slowly move to the other models.

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  • chinmayakar
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    I tried accessing RaceConcepts.in but it says it is under construction. Nice Brand name. Same question can we expect stickers soon?

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  • abhimanyu31
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    Originally posted by Joel View Post
    The carb engine is a better option on the P220 as of now. Let it be that way. Also, the fuelling systems in the R15 and p220 are not swappable. Its a whole lot of affair if you really wanna make it work and then perform.
    It seems that you have finally decided on the logo and style for Race Concepts ... are we going to be lucky enough to get the badge to put on our free flow exhaust any time soon??? ... that will put the finishing touch to the free flow exhaust... oh... don't forget (whenever you are in Mumbai) you are going to sign on my bike as an official Joel edition ...

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  • chinmayakar
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    Further Mods on my already Joeled 220

    Hello everyone, I got my bike today from Joel, after further modifications to the engine.
    Whatever Joel has done to the engine, it sure packs a lot more punch now.

    Bike accelerates even more faster now.
    It has become even more fun to ride.

    The aim of the project was to make my 220 dtsi quicker and faster than the Ninja 250. The bike is no doubt a lot more quicker now. However, as per Joel the bike will hit its top speed quicker than before, however to increase the top end will need to put Yamaha R15 tyre at the rear 100/80-17 or find some way to reduce the weight.

    Will try to install R15 tyre at the rear and see how much quicker and faster the bike becomes.

    However, will need to drag with a Ninja 250 to find out if my 220 is quicker than a stock Ninja 250.
    Anyone, from Bangalore willing to meet for a ride to Nandi Hills?

    Also, can someone tell me if theres any other way to reduce weight without removing anything from the bike.

    What I mean is can we substitute\fabricate certain body parts using lighter material?

    Finally, I am happy with the performance gain. Joel, I will come back for some more mods once you are back after the MotoGP season. Hope the Big Bore is ready then
    Last edited by chinmayakar; 03-06-2011, 12:48 AM.

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  • Joel
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    The carb engine is a better option on the P220 as of now. Let it be that way. Also, the fuelling systems in the R15 and p220 are not swappable. Its a whole lot of affair if you really wanna make it work and then perform.

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  • Seamus
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    Originally posted by chinmayakar View Post
    Joel has finalised 15th Feb. my bike will go under the knife on 15th Feb, will be ready by 20th Feb. Already he has done work on the head of my bike. Now, he will be doing some more mods to the head.

    Target: To build a 220 that will be quicker and faster than the Baby Ninja. At least thats the goal, and I am very optimistic about Joel's work.
    Hello any updates on this?? Am desperately waiting for it.
    Will perhaps go to Banglore in march or april for two weeks just to mod the bike since my bike has already done 20k kms and i think now the stock is more powerful than mine. So kindly let me know how much time it took in this process??

    And guys since our bike is a carburetor one and there is indeed a lot more differences in carburettor and FI technology. So according to my calculations and research 220F and 220fi engine is completely different. And as far as i know fuel injection system is more efficient and at the same time gives more power than carburetor. (note am talking about the fuel systems and not the 220 FI and 220 carb)

    SO Here my question is, what if 220F is installed with r15's FI system and the ECU is taken by Joel of the r15 and installing it on the modded 220F just like chinmaykar has, wouldnt that give a more add on to it?? considering the fact that FI is more efficient and powerful than carburetor

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