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  • #46
    @ NANOtechnology.Brilliant man...! Btw. a small question, Is ur bike idling at 2k RPM to keep up with the alternator??
    Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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    • #47
      @ vineeth

      Thanks bro.

      @ prince

      Thanks, they were too bright for high beam.
      hence running the stock 220 bulb for high beam now, i keep it ON during signal junctions and check-posts to avoid unwanted attention as low beam is too bright.

      @ shreeni

      ZMR will be able to take the load very easily, but please go for projectors if you want this, trust me its toooooo bright

      @ abhijeet

      thanks abhi

      the color temp is 4300k (best temp for hid)
      the good thing is that the bulb goes to stabilization state much quickly, the stator used to take more time to give enough current to the 35w hid to attain full brightness, but these being 100w enter stabilization state much quickly.

      i know its low, actually the base clamps designed before were too long, making it go too high, even the lowest setup in beam leveling wasn't parallel to the road, so i used those clamps to hold the num plate, and designed the smaller clamps to hold the headlight, now these smaller clamps are too low, this is the highest setup in beam leveling, will design new clamps soon.
      Giving a lot to a fiero.
      Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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      • #48
        @ dual disc

        the idling is set at 1200 rpm, but the thing is i am using half diameter sized crank pulley , the alternator needs atleast 1000 rpm of its own pulley to give 35 amps, so when the engine is idling at 1200, the actual alternator speed remains 600 rpm, so i kept it held until 2000 rpm, to get 1000 on the alternator to get enough current without battery drain.

        i can use a bigger shaft pulley, or a smaller alternator pulley, but my bike is modded and ported running TCI, big bore, big carb, different exhaust, without a rev limiter, and the revs reach 12k easily, and i thought it wouldn't be wise to run the alternator shaft at 1:1 ratio as cars do not rev as high as bikes do.

        so its kept this way.
        Giving a lot to a fiero.
        Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
          @ dual disc

          the idling is set at 1200 rpm, but the thing is i am using half diameter sized crank pulley , the alternator needs atleast 1000 rpm of its own pulley to give 35 amps, so when the engine is idling at 1200, the actual alternator speed remains 600 rpm, so i kept it held until 2000 rpm, to get 1000 on the alternator to get enough current without battery drain.

          i can use a bigger shaft pulley, or a smaller alternator pulley, but my bike is modded and ported running TCI, big bore, big carb, different exhaust, without a rev limiter, and the revs reach 12k easily, and i thought it wouldn't be wise to run the alternator shaft at 1:1 ratio as cars do not rev as high as bikes do.

          so its kept this way.
          Woww...! Great explanation mate..! :-)
          Whenever there is a Rainbow in the sky, I know it's u mastering the art of Cornering. U will always be remembered brother, R.I.P Arun.

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          • #50
            Very good work Nano.
            What I appreciate about this is that you have kept it in low beam so as not to blind drivers coming opposite you. I hope all who upgrade their headlights take this as an example and be considerate to people coming opposite to them.
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            • #51
              Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
              @ dual disc

              the idling is set at 1200 rpm, but the thing is i am using half diameter sized crank pulley , the alternator needs atleast 1000 rpm of its own pulley to give 35 amps, so when the engine is idling at 1200, the actual alternator speed remains 600 rpm, so i kept it held until 2000 rpm, to get 1000 on the alternator to get enough current without battery drain.

              i can use a bigger shaft pulley, or a smaller alternator pulley, but my bike is modded and ported running TCI, big bore, big carb, different exhaust, without a rev limiter, and the revs reach 12k easily, and i thought it wouldn't be wise to run the alternator shaft at 1:1 ratio as cars do not rev as high as bikes do.

              so its kept this way.
              You have the basics right...Cars idle at around 1K RPM but they have bigger crank and smaller Alternator pulley,so that at 1K rpm of crank the Alternator is spinning at 2K RPM, and will put out the rated AMPs.Cars have enough torque for this.
              Your Beam is way too high in intensity,and it is good to note you are keeping the beam and it's use down,since it is not legal...Headlight power greater than what is originally fitted is illegal in India..HIDs are also prohibited.Hope you know and use it judiciously.
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              • #52
                Wow, the thread is up at last.. How did I missed this?..


                Well done Nano, you have accomplished a mission which was considered to be impossible.
                Reminds me Tom Cruse MII

                A BIG SALUTE to you dear and you proved that you are a born engineer by doing all these no nonsense mods. I used to follow your mods on the Fiero thread and all that reveals your in depth knowledge in those.

                Coming back to the topic, its really amazing to see the beam spreads and I am sure that the real effect will be another 50% more due to the photographic limitations. I wish I could be there to experience this floodlight effect in real terms

                Ok, now you've become the Brightest Indian biker, what about the other mods done on the steed? Could be the fastest too? Post that facts and figures too.

                You are right, it would be too cruel and insane if you put those 100W HID to the reflector especially to a pencil beam reflector like P220.

                BUT, if I were you, I would've plonk those HID to the HB too and will use it as a flasher to those 6X130W high beam A** H*** riders. Don't show any mercy to these arrogant morons as they don't know what they does, so this is the only way to make them realize how dangerous are these 6X130W halos

                I would love to fantasize their pale faces once they were hit with this cannon

                Nano, its time to reveal the total damage in item wise, how did you managed to get this 100W monster?

                Drji, I know your mouth is watering as mine (mine is still open) to kill all those dumb ass truckies and am pretty sure that your hands are going to be dirty once u get some time.

                Yes car alternators require very less attention, I've cross checked with my mech, the only chance will be the worn out bearings and may be even a rectifier unit which is located within the unit.

                Ahh... my hands are itching.... something to be done without much delay.
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                • #53
                  watering sajjit??

                  i was like whewwwwwwwwweeeeeeeewwwwaaaaaaaa when i saw he achived this.so yes mouth as dirty with everything,but sadly now no time to do any mods,as i have very limited time and mainly no resource to good man power i chennai.
                  also frankly a rewinded coil cant pull 100 watt hid in low rpm s as there is a chance of low batt in less rpm.

                  but i am seriously thinking of this for my upcoming 4x4 mainly off road use,and looking to use quite a few of them on spot/flood scenario.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by shreeni0403 View Post
                    thats toooo good nano... Now need to think of getting my hands on them. I guess the zmr can take that kind of load on stock electricals. Whats your opinion ?



                    He is very legal. He has not put it inside the high beam :d
                    zmr can pull ,i suppose,people use 90/100 even 130/100 bulbs often
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                    • #55
                      Nono excellent job done!!but which battry is brightening our mumbai roads!!is that same from bike or bigger size one.

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                      • #56
                        day and night at garage..was fun...wasn't it...think of some new mods...attaching fridge to store beer bottles or something for the end of the rides.LOL!!!

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                        • #57
                          @ trigger

                          Thanks, i myself hate car hid guys running high beam on normal roads too.
                          i curse them a lot, i just hope no one curses me like that.

                          Originally posted by psr View Post
                          You have the basics right...Cars idle at around 1K RPM but they have bigger crank and smaller Alternator pulley,so that at 1K rpm of crank the Alternator is spinning at 2K RPM, and will put out the rated AMPs.Cars have enough torque for this.
                          Your Beam is way too high in intensity,and it is good to note you are keeping the beam and it's use down,since it is not legal...Headlight power greater than what is originally fitted is illegal in India..HIDs are also prohibited.Hope you know and use it judiciously.
                          Hids are legal in projectors sir, not only in india but everywhere in the world, on standard reflectors (meant for halogens) they are illegal everywhere.

                          thats why i have kept the standard halogen bulb for the high beam.
                          i normally ride with high beam only when i want to ride fast (highways), as the engine is slightly less responsive with the 100w load, the engine braking goes down a lot, it feels the bike has turned heavier, gets difficult to brake, maybe the torque increases with the load.


                          Originally posted by sajjt View Post

                          Well done Nano, you have accomplished a mission which was considered to be impossible.
                          Reminds me Tom Cruse MII

                          A BIG SALUTE to you dear and you proved that you are a born engineer by doing all these no nonsense mods. I used to follow your mods on the Fiero thread and all that reveals your in depth knowledge in those.

                          Coming back to the topic, its really amazing to see the beam spreads and I am sure that the real effect will be another 50% more due to the photographic limitations. I wish I could be there to experience this floodlight effect in real terms

                          Ok, now you've become the Brightest Indian biker, what about the other mods done on the steed? Could be the fastest too? Post that facts and figures too.

                          You are right, it would be too cruel and insane if you put those 100W HID to the reflector especially to a pencil beam reflector like P220.

                          BUT, if I were you, I would've plonk those HID to the HB too and will use it as a flasher to those 6X130W high beam A** H*** riders. Don't show any mercy to these arrogant morons as they don't know what they does, so this is the only way to make them realize how dangerous are these 6X130W halos

                          I would love to fantasize their pale faces once they were hit with this cannon

                          Nano, its time to reveal the total damage in item wise, how did you managed to get this 100W monster?

                          Yes car alternators require very less attention, I've cross checked with my mech, the only chance will be the worn out bearings and may be even a rectifier unit which is located within the unit.

                          Ahh... my hands are itching.... something to be done without much delay.
                          thanks again saj
                          the roads were well lit, hence the shutter closed sooner than usual, besides i don't have a DSLR with manual settings, so have to live with what i got.

                          but its quite nice, doesn't make you feel that "AAHHH only if it was slightly more brighter"
                          infact it makes you feel like, "OMG, i just hope these lights wouldn't get me unwanted attention"

                          there are many other mods done on the bike too
                          some were necessary, others were my power hungry attitude.

                          for me the lucky thing always had been power to weight ratio, everything performs better than what it should, compared to what it would perform if ridden by an average Indian physique.
                          the first ever mod on my bike was FULL DC as you gurus already know very clearly.
                          then came my 180cc upgrade
                          Then followed a bigger carb,
                          but the compression was too high so i got it decreased by a juggad method.
                          later followed head work like porting,
                          FF exhaust,
                          rearsets,
                          TCI instead of cdi (a.k.a no revv limiter) can pull the revs until 12k to 14k with ease.
                          the best part is that whenever i upgraded my bike with anything, it always turned out to be much better than before.

                          i even bought the K&N + karizma's jet, but wasn't happy with the performance, so reverted back.

                          hence, to be honest there's hardly anything left for me to do with this machine.
                          I've learnt a lot on this bike, am really lucky to have a fiero which can handle all these works and still perform with great reliability.

                          the only problem i am facing with this bike is the clutch, its not too good to keep up with the mods, as the bike is very tall geared and has only 4 gears

                          regarding facts and figures, well its not the fastest bike I've ever ridden yet, but the way it pulls after the revvs go above 4k rpm is really great.
                          it can easily keep up with latest gen 200+ cc's bike (even beat them at many places), quite good for a 7 year old steed.

                          regarding the total damage, I'll send you a PM.

                          Originally posted by Ramborider View Post
                          Nono excellent job done!!but which battry is brightening our mumbai roads!!is that same from bike or bigger size one.
                          the battery is AMARON 9 amp battery.
                          yes you read it right.

                          Originally posted by vikaskurup View Post
                          day and night at garage..was fun...wasn't it...think of some new mods...attaching fridge to store beer bottles or something for the end of the rides.LOL!!!
                          enough mods dude.
                          i am done with what i wanted to do, someday I'll do a really really BIGGG mod, on something much bigger and better with my own money, nothing until then.

                          you'll definitely be a part of it.

                          regarding a refrigerator, well see if you can find a 12v one, I'll make it run by hook or by crook.
                          max to max we'll change the alternator to a 150 amp one, I'll buy it if you want, just pay for my fuel to keep it running...
                          Giving a lot to a fiero.
                          Expecting a lot from a fiero.

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                          • #58
                            Awesome buddy awseome.... and very kind of you to keep it in low beam...

                            Sajit is post and Drvmtm's pic clearly said wot i meant to...

                            I want to get it done on my p180..
                            Please pm me.. now after the cam shaft mod am longing for this...
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
                              watering sajjit??
                              i was like whewwwwwwwwweeeeeeeewwwwaaaaaaaa when i saw he achived this.so yes mouth as dirty with everything,but sadly now no time to do any mods,as i have very limited time and mainly no resource to good man power i chennai.
                              also frankly a rewinded coil cant pull 100 watt hid in low rpm s as there is a chance of low batt in less rpm.

                              but i am seriously thinking of this for my upcoming 4x4 mainly off road use,and looking to use quite a few of them on spot/flood scenario.
                              Am happy with my current setup atleast for the low beam, am still hunting for a good pencil beam for High Beam like Hella Comet 450 but its too big for a bike and rectangle. THis week I am going for Hella Comet 200 for my car, will try with that slightly bigger in size though.





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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by NANOtechnology View Post
                                thanks again saj
                                the roads were well lit, hence the shutter closed sooner than usual, besides i don't have a DSLR with manual settings, so have to live with what i got.

                                but its quite nice, doesn't make you feel that "AAHHH only if it was slightly more brighter"
                                infact it makes you feel like, "OMG, i just hope these lights wouldn't get me unwanted attention"

                                there are many other mods done on the bike too
                                some were necessary, others were my power hungry attitude.

                                for me the lucky thing always had been power to weight ratio, everything performs better than what it should, compared to what it would perform if ridden by an average Indian physique.
                                the first ever mod on my bike was FULL DC as you gurus already know very clearly.
                                then came my 180cc upgrade
                                Then followed a bigger carb,
                                but the compression was too high so i got it decreased by a juggad method.
                                later followed head work like porting,
                                FF exhaust,
                                rearsets,
                                TCI instead of cdi (a.k.a no revv limiter) can pull the revs until 12k to 14k with ease.
                                the best part is that whenever i upgraded my bike with anything, it always turned out to be much better than before.

                                i even bought the K&N + karizma's jet, but wasn't happy with the performance, so reverted back.

                                hence, to be honest there's hardly anything left for me to do with this machine.
                                I've learnt a lot on this bike, am really lucky to have a fiero which can handle all these works and still perform with great reliability.

                                the only problem i am facing with this bike is the clutch, its not too good to keep up with the mods, as the bike is very tall geared and has only 4 gears

                                regarding facts and figures, well its not the fastest bike I've ever ridden yet, but the way it pulls after the revvs go above 4k rpm is really great.
                                it can easily keep up with latest gen 200+ cc's bike (even beat them at many places), quite good for a 7 year old steed.

                                regarding the total damage, I'll send you a PM.
                                Nice update dude may be one of its kind on a bike even on the engine side.

                                Slightly OT: Whats the advantage over CDI you are getting now? I know TCI will be more efficient than the conventional CDI systems, still for a clarification, Can you elaborate about the CDI to TCI transformation and what all the things to be taken care of? Is it a P&P with less effort? Only the TCI instead of CDI with neccessary wiring changes? Any timing/advance correction or so? And is it worth to go for it. Being with an alternator I guess you cant start your bike without a battery right?

                                I always had a thought of swapping with TCI but everyone discouraged me as it will end up with a waste of money. And its all your fault Abhi the day I saw your DIY project on digital CDI, but you dropped it in the half way and more than that it was not my cup of tea to digest. Am looking for a easy walk over
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