General SBK Discussion Thread

[Killer]

Dude, both those tracks wont allow a hyperbike to go past 2nd or 3rd gear max. You'll find a karizma or RD or any 600cc bike will be taking the hyperbike. So those tracks aint worth it for a 14R or Busa. Noida is coming up with a killer track but god knows when it'll be ready. Noida outer roads are awesome for straightline bursts.

Then again, hyper bikes werent designed for the track. On track Its the corner speed that matters and the average street rider will get plenty of that at the chennai track regardless of whether he's on a 600, 1000 or 1400. Karizma and RD wont touch the hyperbike at chennai, atleast not if the hyperbike guy can ride reasonably well in the corners. You can do 150kph with your knee on the deck at chennai and probably burst upto 250 on the straights on a hyperbike. I guess my idea of fun is slightly different, for me the straights are the boring bits . If its all about straightline, then guess what you need is a salt flat then, not a track.

[insaneroller]

Well the rush I get out of taking high speed turns leaning is way better than the straight bursts. So I guess i'll head there one of the weekends. My statement was from the numerous 1000cc & above riders who claimed that the track is small for a 1000cc & above bike.

[isbkracing]

Dude, both those tracks wont allow a hyperbike to go past 2nd or 3rd gear max. You'll find a karizma or RD or any 600cc bike will be taking the hyperbike. So those tracks aint worth it for a 14R or Busa. Noida is coming up with a killer track but god knows when it'll be ready. Noida outer roads are awesome for straightline bursts.

@isbkracing, its a simple black box that bypasses the ecu set speed limit on the hyperbikes as per law. De-restricting it will enable the bike to reach greater speeds. So if you are on the Salt Pan, you can manage to touch 380kmph even.

Thanks for the clarification, unless your bike can d about 250kmph in 3rd, I think you can get your bike wound up a lot higher on either of the tracks and if I am not mistaken a 2005 r6 got wound up to about 267 on a speed gun at chennai back straight and Kari has a 800mts long straight, imagine what you get going there?

[Killer]

Well the rush I get out of taking high speed turns leaning is way better than the straight bursts. So I guess i'll head there one of the weekends. My statement was from the numerous 1000cc & above riders who claimed that the track is small for a 1000cc & above bike.

Not saying theres anything wrong with straightline speed, i've been on that trip before and i can understand it, theres just not too many safe places to do that here, especially on a hyperbike.

[Streetfighter]

The 600s easily outrace the 1000s at the chennai track due to better cornering ability. The 1000s will easily outrace the Busa or the Kwacker on any RACETRACK due to the same reason.

I'm not talking about straightline speed.

[Killer]

The 600s easily outrace the 1000s at the chennai track due to better cornering ability. The 1000s will easily outrace the Busa or the Kwacker on any RACETRACK due to the same reason.

Just FYI, theres a different riding style for both the 1000's and the 600's, most guys riding the 1000's at chennai dont know the correct technique thats why they're slower than the 600's. Also most modern 1000's are actually as small and flickable as a 600. I'm sure i'd do faster laptimes on a modern 1000 at chennai than a modern 600, its just the technique.

[Bladerunner]

Up north you mean....there are 2 down south. Some of the mumbai guys like Vicky from performance racing store (h) and a few others come down here and ride once in a while. You guys should consider doing so too, it will be worth your while

And total your bikes too!

[Killer]

And total your bikes too!

Sorry, didnt get that...was that an attempt at being sarcastic? If you ride like a nincompoop then yes, you can expect to total your bike, else you're better off than you are on the street..by a long shot

[Bladerunner]

Sorry, didnt get that...was that an attempt at being sarcastic? If you ride like a nincompoop then yes, you can expect to total your bike, else you're better off than you are on the street..by a long shot

No, that wasn't sarcasm. In fact, I was told, Kevan, you and some other guy from the south crashed recently when these guys had come over. Tell me that's not true.

[Killer]

@rossiter - While i understand your reasons for moving the discussion here, thats also probably killed any further discussion on the topic. I wanted to clear up a misconception but doesnt look like thats going to happen. I dont think what i said above has been or will be understood, unfortunately instead of asking questions people choose to just keep quiet, seen it so many times before *sigh*

[manson]

And total your bikes too!

But then that happens through a street ride too, and maybe more. Just that riders often get high on the controlled conditons at track and probably go that little extra mile. Its not the track or the street, its just that moment when everything goes against you.

manson.

[Bladerunner]

But then that happens through a street ride too, and maybe more. Just that riders often get high on the controlled conditons at track and probably go that little extra mile. Its not the track or the street, its just that moment when everything goes against you.

manson.

Sure. But, would you want to try that when you can afford just one bike?

Of course, we know that those guys can since they change bikes like undies.

[Killer]

No, that wasn't sarcasm. In fact, I was told, Kevan, you and some other guy from the south crashed recently when these guys had come over. Tell me that's not true.

Sure i crashed, and that sort of thing is pretty common when you're racing at a professional level sliding front and rear and gunning for that last fraction of a second. When that happens to a beginner fresh off the street who is nowhere near competitive pace, then something is wrong with the riding. A rider can go way faster on track than he could dream possibly off on the street. The biggest reason most beginners fall is coz they try to go too fast too soon. Its not a fault of the track, hope you get my drift.

[Bladerunner]

Sure i crashed, and that sort of thing is pretty common when you're racing at a professional level sliding front and rear and gunning for that last fraction of a second. When that happens to a beginner fresh off the street who is nowhere near competitive pace, then something is wrong. Hope you get my drift.

Not everyone who rides a bike, rides to be competitive.

I have two people in my family who have/are competitive on the track. One is a multiple go-karting national champ and the other has been the best rider to have come out of India who would look down upon you like you tried on me in the last post. So, you see, there is nothing you can tell me that I don't know about racing on the track. Its just that I have never done it before or I might have made the bike talk instead of my writing.

Besides, are you trying to tell me that you were being competitive against these Bombay guys and trying to win an event when they were there for some time pass?

[rossiter]

Gentlemen, let's not get ahead of ourselves, and take ourselves too seriously. This discussion is taking an unhealthy turn. Let's put a stop to this shall we?

And FYI, some posts here are going to go.