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  • vrugonnab
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    Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
    just scroll back a couple of pages and check it out .. i am not using my comp now so i am not able to repost that pic ..

    i dont know .. they all use a super accurate data logger while testing any vehicle ..do you really think that overdrive would project themselves as unreliable people by claiming unrealistic figures ? .. overdrive is close to being 15yrs old now ...
    Well, sounds like that to me. 0-80kmph in 6.86 sec and then to proceed to 120 by 15 sec, that means more than 8 secs to proceed from 80 to 120kmph, even to 100kmph it says 11+ sec, honestly I feel P180/P220 would pull from 80 to 100 in that time. Also, I think P220 can achieve the 15 sec 0-120kmph even with it's 21 bhp & 152kg weight. I'm not questioning authenticity of the data, that would be stupid, coz i'm just posting this on my laptop, hasn't done any real world testing. But it doesn't sound credible. Speedo error doesn't count for much in this test, coz I presume they would've measured speeds with a proper GPS device. The point i'm trying to make is bikes with 4-valve engines generally are much more responsive once you get to 5-6k rpm and then they pull smoothly till red line, ok they kind of go flat somewhere near to redline. With the kind of power P200NS has, the stats are baffling, as the bike is quicker only till 80kmph, after that stats show that it's not really pulling, which is something that's not been mentioned in any reviews. Speedo error got nothing to do with that!

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  • Rohan200ns
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    Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
    I used to dislike the KTM's digi console first, since I liked the digi-analogue rev combo found on the ZZR 1400 or on the GSXRs..............but I was completely blown away when I found that the Digi console on the KTM Duke 200/125 did not come from any of the bigger Dukes like the 690 or 990...........period.

    Actually it came straight out from none other than the KTM RC8R superbike !!!!!

    Verify it urself here,turn on some volume to enjoy during verification :
    looks like all ktms have got very similar console design .. this one seems to be bigger than the one on our duke ,, and also the data displayed in it is at diff places ..
    i would have loved it if it came with a G-force data display too ...
    the amount of useful data currently available on duke's console will put all other indian bikes to shame ...

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  • J K
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    Originally posted by MACH50 View Post

    Actually it came straight out from none other than the KTM RC8R superbike !!!!!

    Verify it urself here,turn on some volume to enjoy during verification :

    KTM RC8R Track onboard at Donington Park - YouTube
    Woah.. that is new thing to me..!! Thanks for that.

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  • MACH50
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    Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
    ktm has got the same 125duke's international console so you get minimal speedo error ( ktm claims true top speed of 136 and the speedo does 138 till the time rev limiter kicks in) ...
    I used to dislike the KTM's digi console first, since I liked the digi-analogue rev combo found on the ZZR 1400 or on the GSXRs..............but I was completely blown away when I found that the Digi console on the KTM Duke 200/125 did not come from any of the bigger Dukes like the 690 or 990...........period.

    Actually it came straight out from none other than the KTM RC8R superbike !!!!!

    Verify it urself here,turn on some volume to enjoy during verification :

    KTM RC8R Track onboard at Donington Park - YouTube

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  • MACH50
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    Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
    now it is fun to see ns being overtaken at its 150kmph speedo readout by a duke which is displaying 136kmph ...
    You are right, becoz, in my city...........some wanabe Duke owners agrees with their wannabe companions that the Duke is actually slower than the Pulsar 220 or the CBR150R !!! Guess what, these Duke owners have never clocked that speed and they claim what ever they see on the speedo in the videos on Youtube- Pathetic !!!! Worse they make up stories de-rating their own bike- Tragic !!

    At which end, I only replied, let me complete the break-in of my Duke 200 properly and verify it for myself.

    Hence I have given up getting into any arguments which concerns speedo indicated top speeds.

    Duke 200 is one of the fastest accelerating machines in the market, hell-even faster than the GT250R of the Hyosung and some diesel rockets like the Chevy Cruze or the Skoda Laura(I own this one though ).

    Pulsar 200NS is definitely a fast bike when it comes to the R15,RTR180,ZMR or the CBR150R , slower to the Duke which is again at par with the CBR250R itself.
    Last edited by MACH50; 08-12-2012, 03:32 PM.

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  • Rohan200ns
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    Originally posted by MACH50 View Post
    A new thing came to my head.............many people are claiming that the Duke 200's top end is not much.........but in comparison to what ?

    The 138kmph is a true speed, which has been claimed by the company and most bike magazines out there and only the Honda CBR250 and Ninja 250R is faster.
    most of the people like to have speedos which displays the numbers generously so bajaj have reacted positively by giving that in ns ..ktm has got the same 125duke's international console so you get minimal speedo error ( ktm claims true top speed of 136 and the speedo does 138 till the time rev limiter kicks in) ...
    if bajaj had put up their speedo on duke then it would go all the way up to 160 and majority of the people would be happy seeing that ..
    now it is fun to see ns being overtaken at its 150kmph speedo readout by a duke which is displaying 136kmph ...

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  • Rohan200ns
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    Originally posted by bprags View Post
    Duke vs NS, Autocar review
    Bajaj Pulsar 200NS Vs KTM 200 Duke | Feature | Autocar India

    Please ignore if already posted
    they have mentioned that duke accelerates quicker and is having a higher true top speed...this only translates to a massive speedo error in ns ...

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  • bprags
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    Duke vs NS, Autocar review
    Bajaj Pulsar 200NS Vs KTM 200 Duke | Feature | Autocar India

    Please ignore if already posted

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  • MACH50
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    Performance comparison by Over Drive magazine.



    Top registered is lower - 130kph for Duke and 124kph for Pulsar NS, Overdrive is known for printing low top end figures of any bike, so this is nothing new. But the difference is what matters here.......a whole 6kmph slower is the P200NS at the top end while the Duke has more speed, even we know that.........that Duke pulls in some 138kmph and the NS around 134kmph where there is only 4kmph difference.

    The controversial 0-120kmph figure : 15.35 secs vs 22.76 secs of KTM Duke against Pulsar NS.......the Pulsar being a whole of around 7 secs slower to the 120kmph, which is quite interesting.Since most bikes of around 200cc gets slower after 100kmph............but the Duke seals it with almost 250cc like performance.

    A new thing came to my head.............many people are claiming that the Duke 200's top end is not much.........but in comparison to what ?

    The 138kmph is a true speed, which has been claimed by the company and most bike magazines out there and only the Honda CBR250 and Ninja 250R is faster.

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  • ABikerAtHeart
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    Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
    just scroll back a couple of pages and check it out .. i am not using my comp now so i am not able to repost that pic ..

    i dont know .. they all use a super accurate data logger while testing any vehicle ..do you really think that overdrive would project themselves as unreliable people by claiming unrealistic figures ? .. overdrive is close to being 15yrs old now ...
    Not to forget OD is talking about realistic speed and not the speedo indicated.

    But if this is the case then I wonder what the figures like for the One-Five.

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  • Rohan200ns
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    Originally posted by Type R View Post
    Which pic are you talking about. can you please post it as i myself am confused between ns and duke and a 7 sec difference cant be ignored
    just scroll back a couple of pages and check it out .. i am not using my comp now so i am not able to repost that pic ..
    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
    Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.
    i dont know .. they all use a super accurate data logger while testing any vehicle ..do you really think that overdrive would project themselves as unreliable people by claiming unrealistic figures ? .. overdrive is close to being 15yrs old now ...

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  • bprags
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    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
    Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.
    +100. The Overdrive report looks like BS. With almost similar power output to KTM, it is hard to believe the numbers put up by OD. I agree the NS weighs more but those numbers are in the R15 territory, which I find very hard to digest.

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  • Shibadip
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    Originally posted by vrugonnab View Post
    Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.
    Very correctly pointed out.7Sec gap seems to be too much.
    Lets wait for the AutoCar's Report..

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  • Type R
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    Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
    check out the pic which i posted here .. they have the performance data of both ns and duke printed beside each other ..they have clearly mentioned duke 0-120 as 15secs and ns 0-120 as 22secs
    Which pic are you talking about. can you please post it as i myself am confused between ns and duke and a 7 sec difference cant be ignored

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  • vrugonnab
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    Originally posted by Rohan200ns View Post
    check out the pic which i posted here .. they have the performance data of both ns and duke printed beside each other ..they have clearly mentioned duke 0-120 as 15secs and ns 0-120 as 22secs
    Agreed, overdrive claims it, but the question here is do you seriously believe that's the case! coz.. the pic says P200NS takes 6.86 sec to reach 80kmph, then it says 8.86 secs to reach 90kmph, then 11.28 secs to reach 100kmph and then 110kmph takes 15 sec I'm not too sure on the accuracy of these numbers, i'm not buying them. 90 to 100 takes almost 3 secs?? that's where the power band of these bikes comes into full play (if I'm right that will be about 6 to 7k rpm). So, basically these guys are saying after reaching 80kmph, P200NS looses steam. Perhaps, owners can confirm if that's the case. Sure, there will be lot of external factors affecting the performance like riders weight, wind blast etc.. but if the test is conducted in same environment, then these figures doesn't really sound credible.

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