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Welcome to Xbhp, Harry sir. Your concern is appreciated and respected.

We at Xbhp coincide with your thoughts. We may be young but we are trying to make a culture where performance biking is a lifestyle, not an illegal or immoral activity in any way.

We urge all our members to wear proper riding gears, avoid stunting on public roads and show consideration for other road users.

However, we can't really stop and tell people where they're wrong. Its an extremist country. No one knows who will attack you because you gave them good advice.
But still, we convey the safe riding message through Stickers, printed messages and verbally to our friends and relatives.

Yes Sir....this is really true and sad scenario in our country.....we should come forward and do something about this being into the largest biker community in India...

sad but true reality....
i just wish...if i can do something about it.

tolerance levels of ppl have really gone down.

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Honestly, no one gives a toss, I had a scooter hit my swift two days back, pillion flew through the windscreen, they were on the wrong side of the road, the rider was without a liesence (sp intended) or insurance, fortunately no one was seriously hurt, I land up being between 10 and 40 grand out of pocket. Cops don't care they just want their bribes, I had to give 500 under the table to release my vehicle, the clown riding the scooter will get a fine, probably less than 500 bucks and will most likely bribe the cop 3000 or so, so as to avoid charges against him, absolutely no justice, the number of fools on our roads increases at a rapid rate, discipline continues to drop at an alarming rate, we are very far from being a civillised country.

Now i have been thinking it for quiet long . The right age to learn new things starts from the school level. Everybody knows when you were kid you loved supercar's or superbikes . Now back then who think's of buying helmet or do we knew about the riding gear and all ? I guess the answer may be 70 to 80% NO .
What if we people (Xbhpian's) start a campaign or a Presentation for the awareness of the bike riding at the school level itself.

What if we tell them what is cool and what is not . Are bikes are safe or not . Why riding gears are important .

Is it possible ?? Maybe maybe not .

not really.
xbhp should start safe riding campaign to educate other riders on road,as we xbhpians know the importance of riding gear.

My sincere suggestion is, let them be, we never know what kind of people they're & what kind of mood they're in; we'll end up ourselves ridiculed, beaten or even both.

Let those jokers go to hell & pay for not being responsible; there're billions of such morons on the road & our job is not to keep advicing every such moron we see around & we've better job to do than this.

If they cannot value their own life, why should someone else?

On a lighter note, if they're some rich spoiled kids, they'll make us understand the consequence instead

Why? If the other party doesn't have any legal docos, law is on your side. The way I see is, you could've said, with law on your side you can get anything done & that too when the mistake is not on your side.

If the cops are corrupt & side with the two-wheeler guys, all you need is to bribe the cops to let you go; I don't think they need anything in grands especially when the two-wheelers don't have any docos; cops will just milk them & not you.

Worst case scenario, ask them to file a case & accept your mistake, worst case, you get fined for Rs 400 in sessions courts. They CANNOT confiscate your vehicle unless there's someone dead.

Ignorance is sometimes bliss, but most of the time dangerous!!!

Absolutely right, but remember, the worst is yet to come

The entire system in this country has gone so deep into corruption & careless that it's near to impossible to change anything. This is the case even in the best state GJ

Sadly this is the affairs; better have contacts with people who're in good powerful position, not for gaining compensation, but to safe guard yourself from any form of harassment.

nice thought there, I like it. Even schools would welcome people from outside giving presentations and spreading awareness about the traffic rules via posters or something like that in schools.

The schools would welcome it more if something like this is organised by RTOs.

Just my viewpoint.

I can understand your concern sir, specially when I am belong to the almost same City from where you are... ( I am your neighbor)..

First of all 98% of Young Kids in our City ride {Drive} (in there moronic language) like they are on mission mars and you know worse is they call them self Pilot (Its real honored if someone call them by this name) 99.9% kids/youth never bother to wear Helmet forget about Riding sanely, come to the other points like respecting other riders & giving way kind a polite gesture seems to be insult to them, I am fed up of there Cuts & Racing invitation now, lots of people even asked me whats use of RTR if you don't race with us ? some say's I can't Ride some say's its stupid to wear gears like you are in Moto GP Racing..

Even a 13 years old kid now Riding his activa on 85+ speed & invited me for Race & zip zap in traffic which scares me even... Tried to guide him & tried to guide others too but result Zero, public & cops both fed up now so as Me :P

And yes I am also a New kid on block a so call youth... whenever i see them I literally pray saying "Hope he will die riding this a Pain full death` Ameen"


I Strongly Advice xBhp or any brotherhood Bike Forums to start Campaign & Seminars on Road Safety/ Motorcycle Fun with Safety/ Sensible & Mature Riding Tips in Collages it will Really work, most of Rash Riders are victim of unawareness, most of them loves Riding & Motorcycles (Superbike etc etc) guidens is what missing Just need to introduce them with xBhp, surely they will love to Ride in Dozen of Groups Sensibly enjoying Natures & Beauty of world then zip pasting in City limit & Threatening there life...and I am damn sure just by making them aware half of our work will be done... Everybody love to Rides some thinks Riding is all about Speeding & Stunting show them the Read riding & they might agreed with it not all but 5 out of 10 ? What Says guys ?

Traffic rules and safety

A very good topic and i was thinking of starting a similar thread but thanks to harry that he started a similar thread.
First thing is that making people understand is impossible.
We have heard the saying that nothing is impossible but i think in world anything that is not possible is making people understand about safety.
Now let me start from a personal background, I have been riding bikes since 10 years and i was quite young when i started riding bikes due to family problems as my father was out of the state and my mother was alone. So i started riding bikes at young age to help my mother in all the stuff.
Now the main point is that i have been always wearing helmet for last 10 years even though there was no helmet rule then. I was a matter of safety than rule.
And even though i rode bikes at a young age i never rode it in a rough manner as the youngsters do.
Now why did i wore helmet and rode sedately is a thing to ponder over.
It is because my father always wore helmet and rode calmly even in my hometown where no helmet rules exist till now. So what happened is that by seeing him i learned to follow all the rules and safety precautions.So the main thing is that children learn from their parents. If there parents do not obey the law or think about safety and drive rashly then ultimately there children will also learn from them. I can say with authority that children of xbhp members when will ride bikes will always ride safe and obey all rules.

Do not think of making them understand as they are lost in their world of show and EGO. If you try to make them understand you will not only hear Sanskrit words but also will be at the receiving end.Let them die like mosquitoes or worse still let them live in crippled state so that they can ponder throughout their life that if i had been riding safe then i wouldn't have been crippled for rest of the life.

And the situation is worse here.I stay in pokhariput area of bhubaneswar and there is a DAV school nearby. What happens is that 80% of the students are spoilt kids of rich parents. As soon as there kids reach 9th standard there parents will buy them an Apache, karizma e.t.c. You can see how young they are but still parents think that there kids can ride these bikes.
What happens is that none of the kids wear helmet and ride recklessly. As obvious the kids do not have license and still they ride bikes. The situation is no different among girl kids. They also get a scoot at 8-9th standard. Gone were the days when scoot used to be mopeds. Now a days most girls ride pleasure,activa e.t.c and the girls never wear helmet and most of the time they will be on the north side of 70.
Now here police check helmets every 3-4 days and fine people. Now what happens to the school kids. There are number of schools here and vast no of students ride bikes to school. Where are these police who see that school students ride bikes but never catch them. They very well know that a school student cannot posses license and they so not wear helmet, but none is bothered to catch them as they think it is no use as they will not get money.
So here three things are to be blamed:-
1. Parents- Why do they give bike to students unless they complete 12th standard because technically it is then they attain 18 years. Most of the students demand powerful bikes and their parents obliged. When i was studying in 12th standard i had my JOY at home but still i used bicycle to go to school and coaching classes. While my friends used bikes i use to use bicycle. So it is a matter of parents because if parents be stricter in not yielding to their demands then most of the youngster will not be able to ride bikes.
2. School- The children take bikes to school. The school knows that they do not have license and also drive rashly. Why not ban students from bringing bikes. Allow only cycle or use school transport. When i was staying at my hometown JAJPUR ROAD i studied matriculation at a convent school. From std.I to std.10 i completed from that school. I would like to tell that in that school bikes were banned. No student can come with bike and only cycle was allowed inside campus. This is simple way of controlling bike riding by youngsters. But in Bubaneswar all school allow bikes and thus student takes bike and thus to show off they ride rashly and do not wear helmet.
3. Police:- What are police doing. They see that students and young people ride without helmet and license but have they bothered to stop. No, they will never stop a school student. I do not know why this partiality. The commissioner must simply advertise that no student is allowed to ride bike and if caught will be fined severely.
By stopping the school student 90% of rash driving and helmet less driving will be stopped.
And whoever said that girls are safer rider must come in front of me. I am sure he will never forget me for rest of his life. You must come to bhubaneswar to see how girls ride.None wear helmet, must be because how else boys will see them how beautiful they are. And all ride at their maximum capacity. None of the activa,dio,pleasure e.t.c you will see will be below 70.
In those by lanes where we fear to ride at 30 kph they will be at 60-65 kph and zig zagging through road.Presently the greatest menace are the girls on bhubaneswar road. The other day i was waiting at a traffic signal when suddenly a girl without helmet on her scoot hopped over the wrong side and jumped the red-light and speed away. The traffic constable looked and just remained silent as what else he can do.
This is a general thing.
Now lets come to my family:

In my family my father,my sister and i ride bikes. My sister rides a pleasure, my father a splendor and i ride my joy and extreme. What happens is that we all wear helmet and ride safely. My sister i think have never exceeded 50 kph in her 25k of riding the pleasure.
But in my maternal uncle house is different.
My maternal uncle has expired some 16 years ago. So my maternal uncles wife and his son stay with my maternal grand parents.
What happen is that my aunt works in a hospital and thus rides a scooty ES to work. When she was riding before she used to ride without helmet and no matter how much i tried to make here understand she never heard my words. One day police caught her and instead of taking fine they just kept her scooty and told to bring helmet from home and then take the bike. From that day she is wearing helmet.
Now his son i.e my cousin brother is admitted into 11th standard and is presently demanding a ACTIVA or pleasure.When he is advised to wear helmet by me he doesn't hear my advice. His mother doesn't say anything as she thinks that by not opposing anything his son does he is loving her son more than anybody.Now the thing is that when he is asked to take the scooty as my grand father being old and living on pension cannot afford an ACTIVA. But he thinks that his prestige is hampered by riding a scoot.
He is befriending with some spoilt kids of rich brat and riding their bikes. Those friends of his neither wear helmets and ride recklessly. So he also rides and races with every body and do not wear helmet.
I am very sad that even after many attempts i have not been able to make him wear helmet nor make him ride safely. Due to my attempts he generally hates me and avoids me. He thinks that i am crazy to not ride fast and always wear helmet. But i think it is better to become enemy rather than support him for what he is doing. His friends and he taunts me for wearing helmet and riding safely and instigates me to race but i politely reply that come to a track and lets see how much guts and riding skill you have, or i tell them to lets do a tour of 400-500 km and see that you have the energy to do it.Funny thing is that my cousin brother who doesn't even know how to release clutch is thinking that he knows more about riding than me who have over 3 lacs km experience.
It is this EGO of theirs that they know everything that causes them to ride recklessly. You can never stand in front of their ego and ultimately time will make them understand.
I just advice people that when their was bird flu then all stopped eating chicken for 3 months although their is no single case of reported deaths but each day thousands die without helmet but still you do not wear helmet.
I also tell that i you are so daredevil to ride without helmet and ride rashly then why not join THE INDIAN ARMY, at least when you die you will get medal, your family compensation and your body will be carried with indian flag.
What is the use of dying on the road like dogs when municipality will come to pick you up.
So from my post you can easily deduce that since my cousin brother do not hear my advice what will others listen. So do not care about others.
Human is such an animal that he doesn't learns from others mistakes. He always learns from own mistakes when he gets the result of his mistakes.
However i urge xbhp bhubaneswar members to help me in spreading awareness among schools and students to wear helmets and ride carefully.

Sensible.. there I can understand the concern & maturity....

You can never convince them all you can do is to select some one who is interested in riding & is mature enough to understand but is on wrong track because everybody doing it ...

No Offence to anybody here. I can very well understand the importance of a safe ride. But 'Sibun bro' - i wud like to suggest you - inform the parents of your Cousin's friend, not as a complaint but just to educate their parents.

Secondly, even i use to ride scooters without helmets. Whenever, i thought of wearing a helmet- one thing came in my mind was - oh if i drive fast or do some stunts people cant see me/ face so no chance of getting popular. I think may be your cousin must be thinking in the same way. If you think its the same reason buy him a nice 'open face helmet'. Just suggested what i experienced when i use to ride without helmet, so thought it might be of some help. Takecare

Welcome 'Harrywatcha'. Nice informative and awareness related post.

Yes Brother,your words are true and practical and in most situations i have observed that many people including cops ask us "WHERE YOU RACING"(when we are in riding gears) and It's left upto the society wheather it changes are not..but,in abroad It's perfect . There is some improvement in india regarding the safety precautions as in chennai i observe many wearing helmets and even gloves,i dont know weather they wear it for safety or for style or to get protected from sun.but,SOMETHING IS BETTER THAN NOTHING..