Like I said, Time and Place.

On a totally different note.
In Thailand, "Smoke" or "Smoking" has yet another totally different meaning, Especially when you mention it to a girl who happens to be offering her companionship for the night

OH! MIK! !!!!!!

The video you saw was on one of Saigon's best section of road, brand new, with hardly any traffic. No-way significant of the vast majority of roads here! The speciality of Vietnam however, is the number of two wheelers: World champions I am sure!

Anyway, I must confess that, after watching some "only in India" videos on Youtube, you guys seem to have reached a high level of madness! Geee...is that the belief that death is just leading to another incarnation that makes people so reckless?

But, referring to Youtube again: I think Russians beat all!

Hi Jonah,

rider N-o-v-i-c-e is trying to get his hands on a 117.5 sized jet for you. Thanks to JoelKraju, apparently Pulsar UG III 180 has the stock jet size of 117.5 which is of UCAL make. You can also simultaneously look for the same at your place from Bajaj SVCs. If nothing works out then you can try connecting with the carburetor OEM, i.e. UCAL: Welcome to Ucal Fuel Systems LtdUcal, Ucal fuel, Ucal fuel systems, Carburettor, carburettor, Fuel Pump, Air Suction Valve Fuel management system, Emission Control, MPFI, EMS, Oil pump, Water Pump, Service network, Indian auto component, Auto ancilla

If by the time Joel, RC does ship you the jet size then please update N-o-v-i-c-e regarding the same.

Cheers,

Hi guys coming with an update after a long time.

I had a major problem with my bike. The bike's running was vibey and mileage was somewhere between 25km/l and 30km/l. And when I called Joel, he arranged a fresh block for my satisfaction assuming the tightness and to check out if the whole kit was the reason and when I did that, the bike became smoother and all the problems vanished and even mileage increased from 35-40 km/l with ripping and sane riding conditions. Last three days I did a 575 km round up trip and it was amazing with the fresh block. After some 800 kms, the bike became smoother and it just likes to stay on high speeds. Enjoyed every part of the journey (Don't want to reveal the details because some people here have high speed and anti overtaking mania) and I'll tell you it's worth having your bike getting joelled with few headaches to spare.

The old block is sent for inspection and Joel will be revealing the exact fault.

I'm very thankful to Joel because he is never in business type attitude and all the Joel bashers must learn to be patient rather than zeroing him for no reason.

The ODO is just around 1400 kms now and I haven't checked the top speed yet. Will do it slowly because I don't want to put more pressure on the block. I think the bike will be more free in coming days as the ODO gets clocking. Now I can experience the amount paid to the racing clutch springs. Gear changing is butter smooth and it's like hitting a feather especially during highway rides.

Now all has been said and only one thing remains is the jet. I'm running the jet size of 125 in the carb which is the stock apache one. All I need is 117.5 or 120 size so that my mileage can be increased and jerking at low-end can be reduced.

Wrote to Joel about it and hoping that he will be settling this issue very soon.

Thanking Joel very much from my heart for the superb mod.

I don't think I can ever revert back to stock and I'm planning to sell my stock items which were changed with aftermarket products.

And the FZ-18 rules!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's nice mate,
but i would suggest , keep the stock parts with you. You might never know when you might need to swap back.

Apart from that, nothing to say.

Enjoy...!!!


Cheers
Ride Safe
Krishna

This is why you need to measure your parts BEFORE assembly. Never assume or trust the machinist or manufacturer has machined up to the size you need.
Had these been checked properly and had the correct clearances in the first place, you wouldn't be writing this post.

Its a lesson for ALL. Not just for the modifiers, but for rebuilding a stock engine too.
You can't just "slap" a piston in a bore and "whack" it onto the conrod. Same with the piston rings, You need to file the end gaps before putting them on the piston.
You will spend more time measuring your parts, writing them down, doing the maths to make sure they are correct than the actual build part.

Anyone can put a piston in a bore, Few people can put the correct piston into the correct bore.

Good to hear your bike is up and running again Jonah.

Hahahaha! Specially a person called Haryono Adigunawan!!!
....ad me who (stupidly!) trusted him!!! Piston is now in a box.....somewhere!

I believe mine is at KTL still, used as a paper weight or a ashtray or in someones locker.
Useless junk.

Update after 3000 kms............

Done almost 3k kms with second bore kit and this time I was bit careful with acceleration because I didn't want to take chances again. After 2500 kms, I was hearing some sound change from the engine and the camshaft sound was not getting low. As Joel said cam sound must decrease after few k kms but my current cam has done almost 5k kms with two bore kits and the sound is bit high than when it was fitted fresh new.

I wanted to check if something gone damaged with the cylinder walls and piston so with great sorrow, I took my stock parts which I had (because I wanted to revert back to stock if there was something wrong with the big-bore setup ) and opened up the engine and I found that there was nothing wrong with the cylinder walls and piston and it's running perfect. Camshaft is also fine and now I wonder why the cam is so noisy!

Mileage at sane ripping say 70-80 km/hr range returns 43 km/l and mileage at 90-100 km/hr range returns 39 km/l.

Just enjoying the bike.

These days I'm doing solo rides of distance 600 km round trip once in a week or 10 days and I have to share few experiences with the 180 cc. Got pitted against a pulsar 180cc and that guy tried his best to catch me but he couldn't. The distance between both of our bikes were 50m. The top speed achieved was 118 km/hr.

At another instance I was pitted with Pulsar 220cc and my bike keeps with 220cc at 0-80 km/hr range and after that 220 vanishes me like hell.

Last one I had got pitted with Honda Unicorn Dazzler and I'll you tell that Honda Dazzler has good speed at top-end. 0-110 I was well before Honda dazzler but after 110 this guy overtook me. I think Honda dazzler succeeded me because of its tall gearing setup.

Till now I haven't red-lined the babe. Will be doing aggressive riding in the coming days and tell you the exact performance.

Thanks

^^ Your stock exhaust is the main culprit limiting the top end of your bike. You want more power then you will eventually have to opt for an FFE. If you are keeping a track of RC FB page then Joel is currently in the process of finishing his build for an FFE which looks like stock exhaust and can be camouflaged inside the plastic encasing. The sound is less and also the new FFE will be made of stainless steel so no no more issues with rust or any other crap. Plus the new gen of FFE will have fibreglass packing inside instead of the glasswool which was becoming a pain for some of the users to constantly replenish it. The new gen will indeed be plug and play. The stock replica FFE will be quieter too and compared to the race spec FFE I have, the overall power output will be slightly lesser. But then again for street use it will be more than enough for you hit 135 kmph on stock sprockets.

Although I donot encourage street racing, but if like to smoke others on the highway, please for your safety ensure that you have proper riding gears and bionic knee guards should the unthinkable happens.

I am still waiting for the carb and the new engine head. Joel is currently busy in Chennai. The moment he is back, he has assured me that he will send out my kit asap. Till then I am busy with my other work and yes ofcourse the moment rider abhimanyu31 is free, will get hold of my HID and with his suggestions, begin my installation.

Cheers,

Update after 3500 kms!

Hi Guys coming back after a long time. It's been 3500 kms with the Big-bore and the journey still goes on...

Luckily I sourced the 117.5 size jet of Pulsar 180cc UG3 from a fellow biker here. Thanks to Krishh aka Krishna Prasad, he sourced it and couriered to me without taking any extra money.

I changed my current jet size of 125 with 117.5 size jet and also reverted the needle to stock position, earlier it was on position 1 to compensate the big 125 size jet. The problems I had with the bigger jet that is low-end jerking and this has been vanished and the high-end missing with the 115 size jet has not been found in the 117.5 size jet. and when I red-lined on 4th gear, I could see the speed shooting up to 102km/hr without any issues but I could find a slight missing somewhere in mid-range, it's very minute that only people who have gone through like me would find it. I think since this is souped bike, I assume that I won't be able to get things to full perfection. By this I predict that the correct jet size is 120 but will confirm it after the mileage. If I get 120 size jet then I'll also try that and we can put a nail on this. Now the only thing to be checked is mileage. I'm expecting somewhere 45 km/l in sane and 40km/l in aggressive riding conditions respectively.

Another big problem remains is the cam sound. It's very awkward especially in low speeds. All the vibrations I'm facing is the gift of the camshaft. Since this problem is common on most of the big-bore setup and it's also not affecting the engine performance, I think I need to get along.

I'm going for another 450 km round trip and there would be the real test of the jet changed. Hope my problems got solved for the time-being. Hope there won't be any hassles with this powerful headache setup.

Is that a street cam or a race cam?

Hi bro,

Sorry, but I do not understand too well what you mean by a "noisy" camshaft and the vibrations you're mentioning!!??!?

If any noise, it will come the rockers, not the camshaft itself, strictly speaking, as it is simply turning. It appears correctly equilibrated (for the 1/2 rotating speed of a camshaft) and I cannot see how it could cause noise by itself. However, from what I understand, it seems to be the rockers that produce noise, which noise could (???) come from a badly shaped camshaft (???). Effectively, if the rockers play is adjusted to it's recommended value when both valves are closed and on high dead center, it is possible that, at another position where one (or two) valves are closed, there is more play that what what was measured in the position where we usually measure this play. This would be an unacceptable sign of extremely poor machining, and I would be very worried if that is the case, having myself a RC camshaft.....that maybe causing some problems too!

What I am facing is different (from what I understand from you): there is no vibration at any speed, but while the distribution is correctly silent when cold, I have a very perceivable "click-click-click" sound when hot. Noisy, actually! This is a very regular sound, it's frequency varying with the revs= typical of a rocker's sound! I do not really want to take off myself all the plastics around the tank, take off the tank, etc....as this is necessary in order to access the rockers - though still very difficult due to the shape of the head casting - and check the adjustment myself. I have, as you well know, brand new rockers. So, after the Chinese New Year, when my usual mechanic will reopen, I shall have him checking that play carefully, all round the sector where the valves (intake and exhaust separately) are closed. If I find that, somewhere around these sectors, the play varies and becomes excessive....this camshaft will be taken off and then measured on a lathe with a micrometer. Would it be bad, I will have to revert to Joel - at least to give him a sermon! I hope not to have to!!! I shall have to double check the wheels on the rockers, the play on their shaft, etc..., but I very much doubt that any sound may come from there.

So, please let me know in detail what you hear, feel, eventually measure, etc... as this is a really strange thing!

Cheers,

Luc

@ Praveen It's High lift Racing Cam shaft according to the information I have.

@ Luke, I have a mechanic who was working with Yamaha for 8 years and now he has his own workshop. With this sound and vibrations, suspecting the failure in the kit. I made him open the whole block for inspection and I couldn't find any scratches either on piston or cylinder walls and also there was no damage on the camshaft itself (he was showing comparing to the stock camshaft). If you are speaking of rockers then I would again ask him about this. The sound is so awkward that I get embarrassed before people knowing the my bike is new and it's fz which is very silent in stock and my bike makes unusual noises. I was promised that my bike would be smoother than stock but I don't know how to tackle things. The mechanic says, this sound is all because of camshaft. If he is such an experienced person then he won't be telling a lie but still I will insist him to look as you have mentioned