2009 Speculation thread: What bikes could be launched?

[satyenpoojary]

A boost of PS is eminent. They were able to churn out .6 ps from the same 180CC. So we can expect at least 1PS more in 220cc mill.

Lolz its not how it works, infact shouldnt it be the other way round... considering the bore x stroke combi?

I hope they dont mean assembled the fastest So fast that they didnt have time to do the QC

Lets see... atleast its not headed for the 'fastest' launch for sure...

I can make a faster Pulsar 220!
Just remove the headlights and fill the space by tape. Change the front and rear tyres to that of R15!
And you have have a faster 220!

[Sorry guys, i am very much bored! ]

Lets believe when we see it in real!

Bingo!

[svjhonda]

@ Satyen- A faster moped is arriving with projector headlights and a carbon fibre finish end can. Your thoughts?

Damn if these guys play the +1 (ps/bhp... whatever...) game it could take ages till we actually get a real 'bike' (read: atleast a twin-cylinder) in India!

Cut the crap. Where is the damn Ninja?

[sukant08]

@ Satyen- A faster moped is arriving with projector headlights and a carbon fibre finish end can. Your thoughts?

Damn if these guys play the +1 (ps/bhp... whatever...) game it could take ages till we actually get a real 'bike' (read: atleast a twin-cylinder) in India!

Cut the crap. Where is the damn Ninja?

21 bhp from a 220cc single will be a good thing I'd say. Price is important in India and Bajaj is bringing affordable performance biking to India and thats a good thing. U get a 130kmph bike for 90K whereas a 1.6k Comet has only 10kmph more of speed !!

I'd really like to see how many pple hu r crying for the Ninja, actually buy it!! And either ways, Ninja has one place and P220 has another !!

If only they started bringing monoshock to Indian bikes. Like disk brakes 4 -5 years back, I'd think monoshock is an idea whose time has come !!

[svjhonda]

^
Point well made.

But try and understand, that just adding .6 and 1 bhp increments won't do. What you said about the monoshock is absolutely true. Now the Indian mindset is changing and the R(evolution)15 deserves the credit. It has made people actually 'see' the difference. I'll tell you, a lot of people in my housing actually notice some wee bits in my bike that make it a sportbike. They do an actual comparison and are amazed by how far back the footpegs are, and the absence of two shock absorbers and a hidden monoshock, lending a clean look to the rear, the clip on handlebars being bolted directly on the fork top, etc. So generally there is an acceptance of these bits even in the eyes of a middle class buyer.

So a mock carbon-fibre exhaust would make more sense or a monoshock? All I mean is OEMs should start getting trick bits on their flagship bikes, to actually 'popularise' them, make people realize one shock is actually better than 2 and slowly change the face of motorcycling. Remember how alloys became a hit? Now every teensy bike in India sports alloys, while a few years back they came at a premium....

[satyenpoojary]

@ Satyen- A faster moped is arriving with projector headlights and a carbon fibre finish end can. Your thoughts?

Ha ha! You surely dont wanna hear that

But seriously if it comes with a carbon fibre 'look' then its a bloody slap on our face.... Just My views...

[sukant08]

^
Point well made.

But try and understand, that just adding .6 and 1 bhp increments won't do. What you said about the monoshock is absolutely true.

So a mock carbon-fibre exhaust would make more sense or a monoshock?

There is a limit to how much can be squeezed from a single cylinder engine yaar !! 250 cc Honda Twister and 300 cc Honda CBF also produce only 24 bhp and 26.7 bhp respectively !! Tell you what, free Bajaj from the shackles of mileage. Tell Rajiv Bajaj that we are happy with 25 kmpl and they can easily add 3-4 more bhps to the figures !!

And the second part is what I have always been wanting to lay enphasis on. Its about time companies lay more emphasis on cycle parts !! Better swing arms, monoshock, grippier tyres etc etc.

Which is where YOU, the discerning buyer comes into picture my friend. Bombard Bajaj with ideas and suggestions and even threats.
But all said and done I'd think Bajaj is still more proactive than Hero Honda and a certain Royal Enfield !!

[satyenpoojary]

There is a limit to how much can be squeezed from a single cylinder engine yaar !! 250 cc Honda Twister and 300 cc Honda CBF also produce only 24 bhp and 26.7 bhp respectively !! Tell you what, free Bajaj from the shackles of mileage. Tell Rajiv Bajaj that we are happy with 25 kmpl and they can easily add 3-4 more bhps to the figures !!

And the second part is what I have always been wanting to lay enphasis on. Its about time companies lay more emphasis on cycle parts !! Better swing arms, monoshock, grippier tyres etc etc.

Which is where YOU, the discerning buyer comes into picture my friend. Bombard Bajaj with ideas and suggestions and even threats.
But all said and done I'd think Bajaj is still more proactive than Hero Honda and a certain Royal Enfield !!

Royal what? Are they still around in India

Seriously the R15 has done ONE BIG GOOD thing in Indian biking scenario... (read Syns hard torque again if you disagree), all I/we want is others to atleast COPY it, if not create something new!

[insanebiker]

@Sukant : Yes , Absolutely true.

@Satyen :Bajaj is still climbing up the ladder. U cant expect a bike like R15 from Bajaj. They lack the "Experience" which Honda/Yamaha have. They are still learning from their mistakes and improving their products in every upgrade.

[sukant08]

Royal what? Are they still around in India

Seriously the R15 has done ONE BIG GOOD thing in Indian biking scenario... (read Syns hard torque again if you disagree), all I/we want is others to atleast COPY it, if not create something new!

I've read everything Synner has written and I agree to the T. I dont ever doubt Yamaha has brought in a sea change in biking landscape in India. Bajaj is less radical than Yamaha of course, but my point is they are doing what they can do get the biking scene forward !!

Indian biking scene needs more of Yamaha and TVS and Bajaj !!

[RedApple]

well if u watch the commercial on tv for the new 180..it says.."if they only knew...". That prolly means something more is coming

[skyknight19]

well if u watch the commercial on tv for the new 180..it says.."if they only knew...". That prolly means something more is coming

did'nt you read "already in showrooms" ?

[bobby_wish59]

fastest pulsar eh?!
say....is it the new 200?
coz when the 220 was first shown at the auto expo, there was no 200 shown(as to my knowledge) but then before the 220 comes the 200
so.....a 200 faster than a 220 and a 220 faster than itself.....?

[saif71184]

did'nt you read "already in showrooms" ?

LoL

[ken cool]

Ha ha! You surely dont wanna hear that

But seriously if it comes with a carbon fibre 'look' then its a bloody slap on our face.... Just My views...

Wow! I knew you are a tough skeptic. But I did not know that you were this tough!

21 bhp from a 220cc single will be a good thing I'd say. U get a 130kmph bike for 90K whereas a 1.6k Comet has only 10kmph more of speed !!

Can't really compare a V-twin hung from a twin spar and damping adjustable mono-shocks with a downtube cradled single mill can we? The 220 cannot cruise along at 130, both of us, we know it. Whereas the Comet can. I have done it, in searing heat, over hundreds of kilometres! Nope, I don't think that the 220 vs the Comet is a fair comparo. There is no match. Even today I regret having sold my Comet.

[MG]

I guess development of monoshock and all doesn't happen in a day or two.Next year there should be a bike from Bajaj stable which will have monoshock and all.Remember KTM 125.