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  • Originally posted by Lost Soul View Post
    Hey Guys i got some Good news from my Source at the Hero Honda factory . the most awaited bike in Indian history The KARIZMA Upgrade is ready .
    he says it got
    one projector light
    Semi-faired
    Led Backlight
    Digi-speedo
    It will have air-cooled 250cc engine with Fi and Over 21Hp at least
    It will be torquey with City Riding in mind and will have power at low rpms
    Price will be Under 1 lakh showroom to counter r15 mania
    cureently they are working on its Final looks and cost cutting measures to make it into production . It may nor may not be called a Zma .

    He also said that Zma will get some Changes to Make it Cheaper and it will be priced 2-4k less than current model
    Well there was this guy once, hu always cried wolf. And one day when the wolf finally came ..... noone believed him !!

    Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post
    To start off some more pictures of CB300R









    Add DOHC,PGM-Fi,4-valve,Oil is cooled.

    Coming on to the bike.It shares a lot of parts with the Indian HH bikes.The front disk(276mm) is from Karizma, the rear brake lever is of Hunk,clutch & brake levers are from Karizma, footpegs are of Karizma, the petrol filler cap is of Passion, the rear swingarm looks like that of Karizma(I might be wrong here),one of the side panels looks similar to Stunner.

    Now why am I saying all these things?Because this bike can be easily manufactured in India. There no supertech like multicylinder & all.Let's make a realistic guess of the price if the bike is manufactured in India.

    Karizma costs 81K on road in Pune.Add 30K for 75cc,more power & torque,softer compound tyres. Now add another 30K for Fi,DOHC,4-valve & oil cooled.So the price stands at 1.41lakh.Add 14K more for the premium that Honda would like to charge from the customer.So this bike can be easily cost 1.55lakh on road Pune.

    Honda will definitely come with a bigger cc bike.Call it their flagship model as they don't have one.And this model looks apt in every possible way.

    Btw this costs 11,900 R$ in Brazil which is equivalent to 2.55lakh INR but nothing to worry as a 150cc costs close 1.50lakh INR. Also Honda is expecting to sell 50,000 units of CB300R in the coming 6 months in Brazil.


    Is that Sameer Kumar's blogspot?It used to name Faster & faster some time back.
    Wudn't that be the coolest digital dash in India, this side of superbikes !
    And ya, Sameer's blog is on www.fasterandfaster.net now a days !!

    Well, some additions :chassis looks to be double cradle, wich Honda (or HH) hasn't brought to India yet, except for Splendor (to accomodate that ridiculous horizontal cylinder. Swingarm is definitely thicker than ZMAs. The rear subframe is thinner and more elongated. And is that classic CBZs 10 year old turn indicators ?????
    Last edited by sukant08; 06-05-2009, 08:43 PM.
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    • Originally posted by sukant08 View Post
      Well there was this guy once, hu always cried wolf. And one day when the wolf finally came ..... noone believed him !!
      didnt understand ur feelings, am i crying wolf or the wolf has come and noone is beleiving me ?
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      • Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post

        Add DOHC,PGM-Fi,4-valve,Oil is cooled.

        Coming on to the bike.It shares a lot of parts with the Indian HH bikes.The front disk(276mm) is from Karizma, the rear brake lever is of Hunk,clutch & brake levers are from Karizma, footpegs are of Karizma, the petrol filler cap is of Passion, the rear swingarm looks like that of Karizma(I might be wrong here),one of the side panels looks similar to Stunner.

        Now why am I saying all these things?Because this bike can be easily manufactured in India. There no supertech like multicylinder & all.Let's make a realistic guess of the price if the bike is manufactured in India.

        Karizma costs 81K on road in Pune.Add 30K for 75cc,more power & torque,softer compound tyres. Now add another 30K for Fi,DOHC,4-valve & oil cooled.So the price stands at 1.41lakh.Add 14K more for the premium that Honda would like to charge from the customer.So this bike can be easily cost 1.55lakh on road Pune.

        Honda will definitely come with a bigger cc bike.Call it their flagship model as they don't have one.And this model looks apt in every possible way.

        Btw this costs 11,900 R$ in Brazil which is equivalent to 2.55lakh INR but nothing to worry as a 150cc costs close 1.50lakh INR. Also Honda is expecting to sell 50,000 units of CB300R in the coming 6 months in Brazil.
        Even i have a gut feeling of this bike making it to India.Even it is priced close to 2 lakhs on-road it's worth it.May be Honda are pulling up their sleeves for developing markets.And 50000 units of CB300R in 6 months is huge.I would be happy if they are able to sell 10-12000 units in 6 months in India, if at all it's launched.

        Still after seeing the previous lipstick blessings from Honda, launch of this model would break the jinx.Please Honda, oblige!!

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        • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
          Even i have a gut feeling of this bike making it to India.Even it is priced close to 2 lakhs on-road it's worth it.May be Honda are pulling up their sleeves for developing markets.And 50000 units of CB300R in 6 months is huge.I would be happy if they are able to sell 10-12000 units in 6 months in India, if at all it's launched.

          Still after seeing the previous lipstick blessings from Honda, launch of this model would break the jinx.Please Honda, oblige!!

          Hi Chicane..

          its been a long time I saw you at xBhp.. where have you been..??


          I think that the CB300R is the perfect receipe at 1.5 lakhs for India. But for that HMSI would need to manufacture the bike here.. taking CBU or even CKD route might price it above 2.5-3.0 lakhs.


          also what do you guys think about the XRE300..??

          Single cylinder, 300cc, DOHC, fuel injected cousin of CB300R (and is probably being introduced simultaneously in Brazil along with the CB300R).

          any takers for it in India..??










          Last edited by payeng; 06-05-2009, 09:54 PM.

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          • ^^Me me.I'm game for this even at 1.75-2lakh.

            Notice the half panel of Stunner in this bike.Looks exactly same.

            Two more shots of the same bike.



            Last edited by MG; 06-05-2009, 10:02 PM.
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            • Originally posted by payeng View Post
              Hi Chicane..

              its been a long time I saw you at xBhp.. where have you been..??


              I think that the CB300R is the perfect receipe at 1.5 lakhs for India. But for that HMSI would need to manufacture the bike here.. taking CBU or even CKD route might price it above 2.5-3.0 lakhs.


              also what do you guys think about the XRE300..??

              Single cylinder, 300cc, DOHC, fuel injected cousin of CB300R (and is probably being introduced simultaneously in Brazil along with the CB300R).

              any takers for it in India..??
              Was busy settling in my new job.So was off xBhp for quite a while.

              The XRE 300 looks cool but i don't think there is a market for bikes like these out here.And for the price tag it would sport it's strictly not meant for India.Those bikes would come later only when people are spoilt for choices(250+) which in itself is a distant reality!!

              And yeah the bike looks oh so similar to the Stunner.

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              • Thats not even a supermoto by mistake... yuk...you sure its not Chinese? (NON RACIST COMMENT.. PURELY)

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                • Its a Honda.

                  Still no desi takers..?? Sad..

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                  • Originally posted by Lost Soul View Post
                    Hey Guys i got some Good news from my Source at the Hero Honda factory . the most awaited bike in Indian history The KARIZMA Upgrade is ready .
                    he says it got
                    one projector light
                    Semi-faired
                    Led Backlight
                    Digi-speedo
                    It will have air-cooled 250cc engine with Fi and Over 21Hp at least
                    It will be torquey with City Riding in mind and will have power at low rpms
                    Price will be Under 1 lakh showroom to counter r15 mania
                    cureently they are working on its Final looks and cost cutting measures to make it into production . It may nor may not be called a Zma .

                    He also said that Zma will get some Changes to Make it Cheaper and it will be priced 2-4k less than current model
                    Oh no, not again .

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                    • CB300R goodness!!

                      YouTube - HONDA CB300R E XRE 300
                      Last edited by viv.nomad; 06-05-2009, 11:03 PM.
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                      • @all dont worry folks honda will not launch these things here in our indian market...they might show in the auto expo 2010 and we will have a another thread name auto expo and these bikes going to hit india in 2010 june and we will be dreaming this bike is coming...only honda 100cc will come and also new activa with new stickers !
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                        • ^^^ I agree with you. I think people from Honda, Bajaj and to whoever it may be of concern regularly visits this thread and laughs their a**** off...

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                          • but the thing is...honda can take the engines and drivetrain from them and design a new body...like what yamaha did with the R15

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                            • Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                              Your eyes, head, brains, mind, heart, senses, sensibility are all playing tricks on you! You saw 200 written there!!!
                              Greetings, I come from a Technology and Marketing background sir, Seems you missed the fine print....

                              Originally posted by sukant08 View Post
                              ^^
                              Well Sameer Kumar here sure says it a fuellie !!
                              Motorcyclist for Life: 2010 Honda CB300R launched in Brazil

                              And as Ken said, MG's pics are not clicked in India !! The guys riding on the right side of te road !!
                              I actually researched a bit, after my posts last night, BTW I have a ZILLION pics of PEOPLE IN INDIA riding on the WRONG SIDE of the road !
                              So what was your point

                              Originally posted by fast_ferocious View Post
                              So, when can we expect the promised pic bro
                              I never gave a rats rear for it!
                              Actually when Honda launched the Super Duper Remix versions of Unicorn, It kinda ended up in my blacklist.... but I guess now I should....

                              Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                              @satyenpoojary: You said Q3-which year?
                              This year saar!

                              Originally posted by pads View Post
                              So, we are expecting a lot of products in the market by the end of this year........ If one co. launches anything other will follow(like the zebras in Africa while crossing the river or the penguins jumping in sea)......... ...........

                              Some good things happen at very good point of time .........

                              @satyenpoojary: Thanx & hope that your news is authentic.......
                              lolz..... My news is from a direct source, so I can believe it.... especially since he ends up taking all my battering about HMSI being in India only for the money and nothing else.... and I worry (infact i would be happy) if someday he bashes me up and shows a new Honda for India and say "LOOK THIS IS WHAT WE WERE MAKING FOR YOU!"
                              Sigh!

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                              Originally posted by RedApple View Post
                              but the thing is...honda can take the engines and drivetrain from them and design a new body...like what yamaha did with the R15
                              eggjhacktly.... thats what they are doing with the Stunner....
                              Last edited by satyenpoojary; 06-06-2009, 02:18 AM.
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                              • Originally posted by sukant08 View Post
                                And is that classic CBZs 10 year old turn indicators ?????
                                Nah! That surely is the ZMA rear indicators, Some 7 years old or so!

                                Originally posted by MG_Biker1806 View Post



                                TRANSFORMER's time had begun, if only this coming to India...
                                LoOks AwesOme!

                                But the bike wont do well in India, I guess coz(Speaking onbehalf f Indian aam janta)...
                                A nearly 2 lac bike n No ALLOYS!!!
                                Uncomfortable pillion seat (it looks like) like a FZ16.
                                Looks too skinny for a 2 lac price range... VERY BAD FOR POSERS!!!
                                Not even a 120 rear tyre! 140 ka zamana hai bhai!
                                INDIAN AAM PUBLIC: Mazza nahi aaya...
                                Last edited by spiderweb; 06-06-2009, 02:27 AM.

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