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Joel we want u back here , this thread is not the same without u.

Absolutely,every modifications can be made to the carb versions with airslide jet carbs and high flow perfo airfilters,but for an Fi there we have to adjust every thing with the ECU to control injection of fuel coupled with optimum airflow,which is out of league for ordinary performance street bikers as we are.

@rc007-I think u want an Fi for the sake of easy biking.If it is for performance then pls look above and u know what carbs can do.RTR180 is not a motogp bike that it will have Multipoint FI and Traction ABS.RTR180Fi wud come later.Fi on low capacity bikes as 180cc provides nothing but ease of biking and fuel efficiency.

@Joel.............I think we all have to write a poem to woo you to post again.Joel u are not outspoken.Sharing of knowledge is good and we have to accept that knowledge in open mind and hearts.What else can you expect of such a famous biking site if it is not discussion about ability and knowledge of bikes.But some of us do it in an impolite way...........you are not among them.It is good to have you here...........its high time you post some pics or any launch info or any recent info you have on RTR180.Please.

So the front wheel cannot be locked, but the rear wheel can !! That'd have its own set of perils !! Highside anyone !!

But seriously before we talk bout ABS wich even litre class bikes dont have, y dont we pressurize Indian bike makers to have monoshock, and probably projector headlamps and better swingarms !!

I seriously think the time for monoshock has come and anyone riding at night, suffering the moronic cagers who insist on driving on high beam, wud appreciate a projector headlamp !

Probably the ABS is only at front wheel

**This is a Joke **

But then, how the hell would you powerslide the rear wheel through a corner like they did in the Advert, if you had ABS !!

I agree saying ABS is not necessary for smaller bikes is similar to the reasoning givena few years back for disk brakes.

The only reason I see it cant be given is due to its high cost which I feel at this point in time (when most if not all bikes outside dont sport them even now)is fine.

I am not sure why people are still speculating about its looks & other great super features as things are very much in open after that RTR 180 Advertisement???

That is the biggest misconception ever about ABS. ABS is a life saving technology which is as much required at lower speeds and country lanes as on a highway and racing track. What people have come to believe of it is an aid for enhancing the braking. No Sir it is not that. It is in all probability an aid to help you brake safely and that is an absolute assistance when you brake hard on any speed and on any surface be it wet, sandy or just about anything. I for one think that this is a master development by TVS and should be atleast made an optional extra on most of the bikes they have. Why else do you think Honda gave their CBS on a activa? Now I fully know the diff between a A and C followed by BS

Well said!!

let the bike come.......

discussions discussions and some more discussions..........

this is what this thread is goin now a days, let the bike come guys and thn we'll be happily discussing the 'real' things tht it'll be sporting......

I second u on that. RTR s short wheelbase + stiff Rear suspension aids in agile handling. R15 is what a Racing bike is

Just 3 posts old and already going straight for the jugular eh?? cool ..
But cut down on the rhetorics will ya brother !!

At the end of the day, TVS has brought to the table exctly what TVS thought they shud bring to the table !! Now if you do not like it, then please feel free to not buy it.

Heard of constructive criticism .. right ??

I just don't understand what you guys want, would you like TVS bringing in a 300 cc engine tied to a bicycle , what I want is a performance bike with a good set of technologies around it to complement it. BTW somone here has never heard of analogies...

I would try to be calm and keep it as short and simple as possible, 'cause otherwise demanding an ABS system in a 180cc street motorcycle makes no sense to me!

Why this bike doesn't have ABS? Personally, you don't need ABS in a 180 cc, 17.3 ps, street motorcycle, do you? Moreover, ABS doesn't come cheap! Isn't this good enough? putting a 17inch wheel at the back is good enough development on the 180 along with others, I'll say!

Secondly, TVS RTR is NOT a sport/racing motorcycle, please! Its a fantastic street bike in a 160cc (and now 180cc) package with an exceptional handling which also goes well on the track because its chassis and suspension combination is tuned to go well on the track (suspension is slightly on the hard side). Thanks to TVS's racing experience

And putting this experience in to good use, the engine has a oversquare characteristic, has a decent bottom end torque and revs high too which makes it the top choice for racing purposes.

All these features and characteristics make the RTR very fast on city streets and its also easy to modify for full fledge racing. But in the end, as a production model in stock condition, it still is a street motorcycle first along with a good track tool! slight modifications at the right places will turn it into a fantastic racing motorcycle.

Cheers

All I want is a true successor for Apache RTR 160 FI, otherwise this carb 180 thingy will not be beaten down by any competition, rather by its own humble but advanced predecessor. As like most of you, I too adore Apache series because of its racing tech, but there is more to a RTR 160 FI than just speed and acceleration. If you would ask me what I would have liked in this RTR 180 to pass my approval, then just add a FI and ABS system and it will pass my certification...till then its a half hearted effeort by TVS to bring in a true sport bike to us, this is just the same scenario where Windows Vista did not got beaten down by any competition but by its own older brother XP .

PEACE

Its not about 'better'
The thing is that its easy to play around with carbs as compared to the complicated FI units. for example, using bigger jets and free flow airfilters, u can easily extract 5-10% more perf from your bike. For FI, the same would involve lot of complications...