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  • #31
    Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

    Originally posted by Chandan92 View Post
    ABS/Non-ABS discussed on this forum multiple times and every time there was one conclusion, ABS is good to have but don’t expect it to work like magic and save from crashing. Riding skills matters the most.
    This is the right conclusion. No matter how much riding experience you have, riding skills and safety is a must. Because no one can expect what might happen at what moment, so it's always better to have it(abs, TC, etc etc) in your arsenal.

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    • #32
      Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

      Originally posted by Siddhartha.S View Post
      This is the right conclusion. No matter how much riding experience you have, riding skills and safety is a must. Because no one can expect what might happen at what moment, so it's always better to have it(abs, TC, etc etc) in your arsenal.
      Your response is contradicting [MENTION=54046]Chandan92[/MENTION] post and you also say that is the right conclusion. And no, ABS isnt going to save you all the time but riding skills will.
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      • #33
        Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

        Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
        Your response is contradicting [MENTION=54046]Chandan92[/MENTION] post and you also say that is the right conclusion. And no, ABS isnt going to save you all the time but riding skills will.
        In what way is it contradicting. Mr. Chandan said, you can't expect it to work like magic, and save us from crashing. That's what even im trying to tell. ABS is good to have, that's the whole point of having a safety measure. It's like having a fire extinguisher in a kitchen, you can tell you're the best cook and can cook anything with skills, with all fire and stuff (you know like the frying of oily noodles, huge fire comes out from the dish), and not cause a fire accident, but still it's better for you and the other people to have a few fire extinguishers.
        My post isn't contradicting, i just told that it's a good thing to have it in your arsenal along with your riding skills.

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        • #34
          Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

          Originally posted by Siddhartha.S View Post
          In what way is it contradicting. Mr. Chandan said, you can't expect it to work like magic, and save us from crashing. That's what even im trying to tell. ABS is good to have, that's the whole point of having a safety measure. It's like having a fire extinguisher in a kitchen, you can tell you're the best cook and can cook anything with skills, with all fire and stuff (you know like the frying of oily noodles, huge fire comes out from the dish), and not cause a fire accident, but still it's better for you and the other people to have a few fire extinguishers.
          My post isn't contradicting, i just told that it's a good thing to have it in your arsenal along with your riding skills.
          Fire extinguisher in kitchen? I am sorry, i havent seen one in any house kitchen til now. If you have it in your house, thats perfect.

          Regarding ABS! Yeah, you guys win[emoji28] i cant help but to accept my defeat [emoji39]

          Lets see how many lives its gonna save when it becomes mandatory in India.
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          • #35
            Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

            Members are requested to participate in meaningful discussions.
            This forum is not FaceBook.
            If you don't have something meaningful to post, then don't post anything. If one is having issues staying away, I'll be happy to help them!
            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

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            • #36
              Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
              Members are requested to participate in meaningful discussions.
              This forum is not FaceBook.
              If you don't have something meaningful to post, then don't post anything. If one is having issues staying away, I'll be happy to help them!
              I respect your thoughts.
              Conclusion: safety is more important than performance.
              So, i would request to all riders to go for abs equipped motorcycles, because it will not only provide safety to the rider but will provide safety to your pillion / family member travelling with you .

              Thank you [emoji120]
              Last edited by #bpk; 08-24-2018, 11:40 PM.

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              • #37
                Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

                Last warning members.
                Don't wash your dirty linen in public, strict action would be taken.

                Why don't you guys try and resolve your issues via a series of PMs?
                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

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                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                • #38
                  Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

                  A used abs cbr 250, dominar 400abs, Apache 200, ns 200, rs200, fz25, if your willing to spend a little more you can consider the new Himalayan fi where I've heard the issues have been ironed out.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

                    Originally posted by TVSian View Post
                    Hello everyone,Hope you all are doing great!

                    I have always been a fan of Naked Sports like the Pulsars and Apaches but at the same time,Loved Budget Tourers like the Avenger 220.Also now the Dominar 400 which is simply an amazing bike that renders the entire Royal Enfield Product line-up irrelevant (Sadly,REs still sell a lot more,but let's keep that aside).

                    I was thinking -
                    We have the Avenger Twins and Intruder We have the GiXXeR SF,Pulsar 220F,200NS and RS.etc,Apache RTR 200 ABS -All of them doing great work in touring.
                    Above all of these,We have the Dominar 400 ABS which I think is the best bike one can get under 2L.

                    The Avenger and Intruder are very comfortable for touring,More than the Apache and Pulsars.But the Apache and Pulsars (except for the 220F) all come with better and newer Technologies which improve the reliability,refinement and safety aspect - I feel like there is an imbalance here.What if consumers want both Cruiser style + new tech from the modern Pulsars and Apache ?

                    Do you also think this is what TVS is aiming with their first cruiser - The Zepplin Concept ? Would this also be what Mahindra is aiming to do with the return of JAWA ?

                    For solving this imbalance - I feel that a bike with a 200/220/250cc Single Cylinder SOHC Carburetted/Optional Fi Engine (with a Balancer Shaft,Bassy exhaust note) paired to a 6 Speed Gearbox with Slipper Clutch,A 16-20 Litre Fuel Tank,Digital Console with features like Time,Engine Temperature,Fuel Efficiency Indicator + DTE,Dual Tripmeters.etc,Safety aspects include Single Channel ABS Standard (Dual Channel Optional),Tubeless Tyres.etc.
                    Most importantly,Price it just above the Apache RTR 200 with on-road coming up at 1.25L for the Base Carb+SC-ABS and upto 1.40L for the Top-end Fi DC-ABS

                    I think this bike can cruise comfortably at 100+kmhr and hugely undercut the Dominar.Maybe this is what TVS is going to do with the Zeppelin.

                    Also quite sad about the Hero's amazing HX250R.I guess the project has been shelved.They didn't see the Dominar coming.It was one gorgeous bike and would have sold like hot cakes if priced under 1.5L but the Technology it had,just wouldn't allow the price to be that low.

                    Thanks for the read and please do suggest and share your opinion too.Always happy to learn
                    Must have a good tank range as well I assume. So himalayan and dominar both fits in your criteria.
                    स्वभावो नोपदेशेन शक्यते कर्तुमन्यथा !
                    सुतप्तमपि पानीयं पुनर्गच्छति शीतताम् !!

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                    • #40
                      Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

                      Originally posted by S3maphor3 View Post
                      Must have a good tank range as well I assume. So himalayan and dominar both fits in your criteria.
                      Both Himalayan and Dominar is way outta the 1.5L Budget.
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                      • #41
                        Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

                        Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                        A used abs cbr 250, dominar 400abs, Apache 200, ns 200, rs200, fz25, if your willing to spend a little more you can consider the new Himalayan fi where I've heard the issues have been ironed out.
                        Yeah,Great choice of bikes! I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Enfield's Fi systems.
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                        • #42
                          Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

                          Originally posted by TVSian View Post
                          Yeah,Great choice of bikes! I wouldn't want to go anywhere near Enfield's Fi systems.
                          I've heard the newer himayalan issues have been resolved soo just suggested, Himalayan is the only bike on the RE portfolio I'll suggest.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Budget Tourer Discussion (under 1.5L)

                            Originally posted by Deathwing View Post
                            I've heard the newer himayalan issues have been resolved soo just suggested, Himalayan is the only bike on the RE portfolio I'll suggest.
                            I'd actually love to see a Carburetted Bullet Standard 500 with Dual Channel ABS at 1.7L On-Road.
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