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  • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
    Somehow overlooked your post before!
    My answers in bold.
    Abhi, would like to make few notes on ur post.

    Firstly, u cant use an APE RR on P220 as P220 has got 3 phase alternator and APE's 2 phase, and a new APE RR will cost u around 600/- but u can source it from junk yard too at a lower price. Will someone go for a salvaged RR for new bike?

    Since ur bike is a P220, (forgive me for not reading the whole posts assuing it to be) u dont require any RR change as P220 RR is quite smart enough to feed 2X55W H7 simultaneously! (I have seen some, but not sure how long)

    How will u get a P220 used coil for rewinding? from scrap? Hardly gets damaged, so only option for a new one. That u can go in for later on if things are going wrong U want to convert a massive 200W to a 250W coil?.Disgusting U dont require at all as its capable of feeding all 2 halos. Max u may need to change to a higher cap RR if it requires.

    If u still facing the batt discharge issue, go in for Bulls RR a true 3 phase, will feed a 14AH, but where do u accomodate this 14AH without affecting the bikes overall balance and beauty?

    Any one can go for the RR swap even with ur stock coil as an ordinary coil is already producing morethan 60W. The idea of changing the RR is boosting the batt charging and coverting it to full DC. A higher watt rewounded coil will produce more amps than the stock coil, but to my observation, its enough for a 35W HID. Halogens? Not at all sufficient with the stock coil. RE WIND
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    • Originally posted by sajanjosepht View Post
      Abhi, would like to make few notes on ur post.

      Firstly, u cant use an APE RR on P220 as P220 has got 3 phase alternator and APE's 2 phase, and a new APE RR will cost u around 600/- but u can source it from junk yard too at a lower price. Will someone go for a salvaged RR for new bike?

      Yeah, can use the APE RR unit only on a rewinded P220 coil.

      Since ur bike is a P220, (forgive me for not reading the whole posts assuing it to be) u dont require any RR change as P220 RR is quite smart enough to feed 2X55W H7 simultaneously! (I have seen some, but not sure how long)

      It can feed as it is on DC. But is that sustainable?

      How will u get a P220 used coil for rewinding? from scrap? Hardly gets damaged, so only option for a new one. That u can go in for later on if things are going wrong U want to convert a massive 200W to a 250W coil?.Disgusting U dont require at all as its capable of feeding all 2 halos. Max u may need to change to a higher cap RR if it requires.

      Where did you get the 250W figure? If it is correct, a 100/90 h/l should be supported w/o any modification.


      If u still facing the batt discharge issue, go in for Bulls RR a true 3 phase, will feed a 14AH, but where do u accomodate this 14AH without affecting the bikes overall balance and beauty?

      Is the Bull's RR unit any better? A 14ah battery needs a mere 2A current at the maximum to charge. And the bull has this large size battery only because the starter is quite heavy. This has got nothing to do with the rest of the electricals.

      Any one can go for the RR swap even with ur stock coil as an ordinary coil is already producing morethan 60W. The idea of changing the RR is boosting the batt charging and coverting it to full DC. A higher watt rewounded coil will produce more amps than the stock coil, but to my observation, its enough for a 35W HID. Halogens? Not at all sufficient with the stock coil. RE WIND

      Exactly!
      Some more notes in bold!
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      • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
        Some more notes in bold!
        What Sajan meant was, APE's RR is 2 phase whereas P220's is 3phase so he can swap with Bullet's not the APE's. Am I right?

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        • My point was its not necessory to go for a RR swap if the stock RR is capable, and dont u know P220's alternator is a 200W, by rewinding it can bring a min of 250 provided if there's enough space left. I've not heard about a P220 coil was re winded for any further power req. Do u think 200W is not enough to feed a 2X55W? The question is will the RR give enough support, that will prove all this. Am sure it will light up a 100W to its full brightness, at the cost of reflectors. Abhi, my P150 was capable of driving a 100/90 like a plasma without compromising any console lights after the coil re winding, I hope its a 130W now. So why not a 200W alternator + 9AH batt in P220?

          I repeat, P220 coil is a 3 phase one, rewinding to its original pattern will only give u the desired output to my knowledge, Just check for the DC bikes, mostly having 3 phase like ZMR, Bulls, P220, I dont know FZ. A 3 phase alternator is better than a 2 phase one that am sure. If the P220 RR is delivering more than 9A, then everything is settled I hope.

          A Bullet RR is capable of feeding a 14AH batt, I've seen in one of my friends bull. He is using an HID now but before that he was on O NB with more than 1 hr drive. So its enough I hope. R the new Bulls on 14 or 9AH? My friend changed to 14A on the last batt change.

          If the P220 is not upto the mark go in for other 3phase ones like Bajaj 3W Petrol or CNG but need a slight mod



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          • ^^ If we look at 200W it seems to be a nice number! But, the thing is we do not know how much the Fuel Injection system consumes. Everything depends on that. In any case, Bajaj will hardly provide a 200W electrical system if the major load is only the 55W h/l + other lights. I guess total load is too somewhat like 150W only!

            Thinking about this, the newer P220 w/o FI can easily go for 130/100W h/l I guess!

            Edit - what gauge wire did u use for rewinding your coil?
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            • Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
              i have asked for 35w hid...6000k
              he cant understand the circuit......16days till now

              two days before he says me one person named sunny also brings the copy of same circuit.............xbhp rocks

              can u post youtube video for circuit with your p220 mod.......this will help to understand lot of us.
              I do'nt think it's any use in taking the circuit to the dealer. Buy a Car HID kit and install it, when I come to Nagpur, I will help you do make the mods.

              But in any case, it's better to buy the HID and ask your friend who can help you, or even a normal electrician.

              Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
              ^^ If we look at 200W it seems to be a nice number! But, the thing is we do not know how much the Fuel Injection system consumes. Everything depends on that. In any case, Bajaj will hardly provide a 200W electrical system if the major load is only the 55W h/l + other lights. I guess total load is too somewhat like 150W only!

              Thinking about this, the newer P220 w/o FI can easily go for 130/100W h/l I guess!

              Edit - what gauge wire did u use for rewinding your coil?
              Even I do'nt think so that 220 gets 200W. And if I'm not wrong, 220's coil generate power for Battery charging and Electricals seperately. After 2K RPM the Coil generates enough to support the 55W Bulb +15W Pilot lamps.

              Even FI hardly consumes any power, not more than 15W.
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              • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                ^^ If we look at 200W it seems to be a nice number! But, the thing is we do not know how much the Fuel Injection system consumes. Everything depends on that. In any case, Bajaj will hardly provide a 200W electrical system if the major load is only the 55W h/l + other lights. I guess total load is too somewhat like 150W only!

                Thinking about this, the newer P220 w/o FI can easily go for 130/100W h/l I guess!

                Edit - what gauge wire did u use for rewinding your coil?
                Yes, am quite sure about that it will support a 100W, as it uses an H7 single beam. But at the risk of melting the reflectors with a 100W or higher. Am not sure that the highbeam sealed beam is available seperate. In that case its better to go in for O'NB its like a plasma with this power.

                No idea yar, its too late to recollect the guage no., 2 years back
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                • rahulji when u are coming to nagpur

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                  • Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
                    rahulji when u are coming to nagpur
                    Last week of Jan (2010), till then you can try building the setup, it's not at all complex. You can buy the stuff from Sitabuldi, rear road.
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                    • Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                      Last week of Jan (2010), till then you can try building the setup, it's not at all complex. You can buy the stuff from Sitabuldi, rear road.
                      on 1 st nov i have gone to nagpur purchased a hid kit(hawk 8000k) for rs 5000
                      i will replace it with 6000k on 7th
                      with a whole day fight from 11am to 10pm results negative,fitting person failed to do twin bim,
                      rahulji pls PM me your mobile no.............plsssss
                      Last edited by mayank04; 11-03-2009, 03:46 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
                        on 1 st nov i have gone to nagpur purchased a hid kit(hawk 8000k) for rs 5000
                        i will replace it with 6000k on 7th
                        with a whole day fight from 11am to 10pm results negative,fitting person failed to do twin bim,
                        rahulji pls PM me your mobile no.............plsssss
                        Have you installed the HID's and working in single beam mode? My No. is +919844-one-six-71-two-nine
                        Been There, Done That; Better!

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                        • Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                          Have you installed the HID's and working in single beam mode? My No. is +919844-one-six-71-two-nine
                          yes...... it is working in single beam mode
                          i am also planning to replace this hid with raylux 4500k

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                          • Originally posted by mayank04 View Post
                            yes...... it is working in single beam mode
                            i am also planning to replace this hid with raylux 4500k
                            hm.. why don't you try making the modification yourself?
                            Been There, Done That; Better!

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                            • yesterday i saw some chinese HID(i think). It was costing 2.2k but 1 strange thing i saw was, bulb said 35W, but ballast said 25W. Is it okay or should i search for something better?
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                              • Originally posted by antz.bin View Post
                                yesterday i saw some chinese HID(i think). It was costing 2.2k but 1 strange thing i saw was, bulb said 35W, but ballast said 25W. Is it okay or should i search for something better?
                                Strange, I haven't ever come across any 35W Ballasts! I didn't ever knew that a 25W HID existed. Stay clear out of it, look for 35W Ballasts and bulbs.
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