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  • #106
    Originally posted by avinrichards View Post
    A question for the guys here.


    I am planning to get projectors soon .( Skoda/ Sonata )

    1:Now is it necessary that i have to go for HIDs to use the projector or will they work fine with the normal bulb.

    2:also. normal bulbs already have both filaments and low projectors have the high beam blocked.
    Now if i remove the block can i have high and low beam on the same projector ?
    (1) Projectors works fine with normal bulbs. Till 2 years back, you could see just few cars with HID, but most of the Skodas even then were Projectors.

    (2) Usually projectors have single beam bulbs. There' are separate lenses for different beams, 220 has low projectors and high ellipsoidal.

    Originally posted by pavanchirmade View Post
    +1 to those questions.
    But Avin AFAIK you just cannot have both beams in one projector. You gotta have 2 projectors, one with the blockage for the low beam and one without the blockage for the high beam.


    Also any ideas for fitting 2 projectors inside the stock headlamp of a UGIII? Mount them side by side or one over the other [ a la 220] ??
    I think mounting them side by side like R15 is a better option, just my opinion.
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    • #107
      There's has been lot of talk on Projectors. I would like to add that Projectors also have drawbacks, especially in case aftermarket chineese one.

      (1) Projectors Lens quality can actually reduce the intensity of light. Thicker lenses makes things worse. Even good projectors lenses can turn to be worse if it does not matches the arc of the bulb.

      (2) There Projectors known as BI-Xenon Projectors, where usually as solenoid which moves the shutter to make use of hi/low beams.

      (3) Projector Lenses, may change colour temperature, usually reducing. In other words a light source may look more yellowish when put in projectors.

      It's important to take in consideration that Projectors, were invented with the first priority of reducing the glare for oncoming traffic.
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      • #108
        Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
        Yeah, only thing is that the beam will spread a little and will not be as focused. While this will not bother you as much, oncoming vehicles will feel the glare! Other than that, projectors are not really needed!
        Now a days I am seeing atleast 1 bike daily with HIDs in Pune, and the glare is bad. Also, somehow the light spread ahead is not great either, like the one seen in projector fitted cars. That's why I started to plan fitting a projector in the headlight beam.

        In Pune, some guys are fitting HIDs in bike for 3200, without any warranty. 3200 for no warranty kit seems too costly, isn't it?

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        • #109
          ok cooll. thanks rahul..

          now tell me ..

          which projectors use low beam : laura is all i know of and i guess sonata ones also.

          which projectors use high beam ? : ??

          now if i buy a low beam projector and remove the block for the high beam , would i get the high beam also ?
          - You spend half your life before you realize your are ordinary, you then, either are too lazy to change or you do the extraordinary and change the world!

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          • #110
            Originally posted by avinrichards View Post
            ok cooll. thanks rahul..

            now tell me ..

            which projectors use low beam : laura is all i know of and i guess sonata ones also.

            which projectors use high beam ? : ??

            now if i buy a low beam projector and remove the block for the high beam , would i get the high beam also ?
            All the cars having projectors use it for low beams only, some are bi-xenon projectors, and some have separate projectors for hi/low beams.

            But mostly Projectors are used only for low beams. Even the Audi A6 uses Projectors for low beam only.
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            • #111
              Originally posted by avinrichards View Post
              ok cooll. thanks rahul..

              now tell me ..

              now if i buy a low beam projector and remove the block for the high beam , would i get the high beam also ?

              and this ?
              - You spend half your life before you realize your are ordinary, you then, either are too lazy to change or you do the extraordinary and change the world!

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              • #112
                Originally posted by avinrichards View Post
                and this ?
                AFAIK yes!
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                • #113
                  ^^ wokay.. thanks guys.. will start working towards a prototype..
                  will post when done.
                  - You spend half your life before you realize your are ordinary, you then, either are too lazy to change or you do the extraordinary and change the world!

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                  • #114
                    But the thing to remember here is whether you remove the shield or not, you just cannot get both beams in one projector except the ones with solenoid shields which can move for both beams. The conventional dual filament bulbs are useless in projectors.

                    BUT YES YOU CAN CONVERT A LOW BEAM PROJECTOR WITH A SHIELD TO A HIGH BEAM ONE BY REMOVING THE SHIELD
                    Last edited by pavanchirmade; 10-09-2009, 05:14 PM.

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                    • #115
                      Originally posted by pavanchirmade View Post
                      But the thing to remember here is whether you remove the shield or not, you just cannot get both beams in one projector except the ones with solenoid shields which can move for both beams. The conventional dual filament bulbs are useless in projectors.

                      BUT YES YOU CAN CONVERT A LOW BEAM PROJECTOR WITH A SHIELD TO A HIGH BEAM ONE BY REMOVING THE SHIELD
                      To the best of my knowledge, if the projector shield is in the bottom part it will be low beam. So if u invert the projector it has to be high beam. So when u remove the shutter it should be both high and low together.

                      Sample of Projector work i am working on my Unicorn comes like this.
                      Suggestions are welcome

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                      • #116
                        Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
                        To the best of my knowledge, if the projector shield is in the bottom part it will be low beam. So if u invert the projector it has to be high beam. So when u remove the shutter it should be both high and low together.

                        Sample of Projector work i am working on my Unicorn comes like this.
                        Suggestions are welcome
                        Looks like Darth Vader to me!

                        Jokes apart, it's really a commendable job.
                        I don't think if you invert the projector it will become high beam, we need straight beam patter for high beam.

                        What are specific beams there in that setup? Putting a Ellipsoidal beam on that lower seems to be good, and you can use both of those projectors for low beam?
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                        • #117
                          Originally posted by rahuldevnath View Post
                          Looks like Darth Vader to me!

                          Jokes apart, it's really a commendable job.
                          I don't think if you invert the projector it will become high beam, we need straight beam patter for high beam.

                          What are specific beams there in that setup? Putting a Ellipsoidal beam on that lower seems to be good, and you can use both of those projectors for low beam?
                          I think i didn't understand what u said

                          Btw what i have done is...
                          Top 2 projectors, 1 is low beam and other is inverted. ( Couldn't remove shutter from it )

                          Big one in middle, have removed the shutter

                          So u calculate what beams they are...

                          Ellipsoidal Beam - Can u explain a bit more. Some things go above my head

                          AND I had called u last Sunday, cell switched off..!!

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                          • #118
                            Really really nice bro..!

                            Just waiting for the light throw snaps.. hope you find a good coil rewinder soon..
                            - You spend half your life before you realize your are ordinary, you then, either are too lazy to change or you do the extraordinary and change the world!

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                            • #119
                              Originally posted by avinrichards View Post
                              Really really nice bro..!

                              Just waiting for the light throw snaps.. hope you find a good coil rewinder soon..
                              And a financier too

                              Need 6500rs for HID and 1200rs for Rewinding stuff

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                              • #120
                                Also a battery. the 7Ah battery on the uni wont survive bi-xenons.

                                But seriously the headlight looks cool ! Love this thread, especially the lighting on Rahul's bike.

                                @Rahul, knowing b'lore cops havent you been stopped yet ? Of course its safe cause its in a projector but still that's really bright, reaaaaaaallly bright.
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