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**on wheels** · 01-21-2010, 12:36 AM

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

I dont know any mechanic, so i was planning to get that fixed myself

. I was eager to know if you did that yourself

. Then how does that feel now? Some people mentioned it as spongy and you will feel the pulsating back force on the lever. Did you experience anything like that

?

I observed:
1. The break leaver is soft like the clutch leaver, but producing effective breaking - you can say effortless breaking.
2. Enhanced control over your vehicle hence you can break with confident.

If you want to fit this stuff by yourself, its a good option but make sure that you have all the tools ready.

**SriramEfunds** · 01-21-2010, 12:41 AM

Thanks On Wheels for posting pictures of the installation,
I'm kind of joy reading posts when many wanted to have the ABS on thier bikes for good brake support. Indeed, it is a good move for people opting to have ABS on thier bikes.

Initially might be slightly weird of the feeling of braking, actually ABS works very silently or rather smartly.

Yes, we will not feel the hard braking or any slip of balance when we encounter such situation. Again, if we follow the braking ettiquets religiously as suggested above, then there is little chance of finding ourselves in a trouble.

**on wheels** · 01-21-2010, 12:42 AM

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

I didnt mention about that, did you visit the saferideabs.com. Just see how the brake cable is positioned. please upload a photo with ur bike on central stand with front wheel straight. And also fitting abs wont be a violation of warranty rite?

The fitting has been done exactly the same way it was there in the video. I would definitely post the pic as per your request.
No warranty issues.

**Anupdas** · 01-21-2010, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by on wheels View Post

The fitting has been done exactly the same way it was there in the video. I would definitely post the pic as per your request.
No warranty issues.

Thanks bro

. I checked the above link of kaulson racing(http://www.goforkrp.com/index.php?la...e&Id=538704859), it says only 650/- have anyone bought it. Its roughly the half offered by saferide. But saferide seems like a good one compared to the other.

**rahul9985** · 01-21-2010, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by sajjt View Post

Even am using this so called ABS

for the pas 6 months, but its not from Saferides, from KRP, a chinese product.

Nice experience sajit.. U must have enjoyed it..

Originally posted by R-series View Post

Just to highlight...your wrong on this point.
If you try to find out...the centre of gravity (in standing position) is on the front half of the bike. While accelarating - it shifts backwards towards the rear and while braking it moves further ahead (towards the front)
If your concerned with the front loosing grip...i would like to bring to your attention that the rear looses traction before the front.
you can check that by applying equal amount of force on both front and rear brakes and you will notice...the rear will look first.
and thats the reason why rear breaks are made weaker compared to the front (in any vehical). As the rear tends to loose grip easier than the front.

Thanks for pointing that out!

Its simple physics. During forward motion front brakes work better & during backward motion rear brakes work better.
I had to use the word weight as not many might understand shifting of center of gravity during acceleration & deceleration. But during the shifting of center of gravity the weight of the body also shifts.

**sajjt** · 01-21-2010, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by on wheels View Post

HAY GUYS!!! KRP IS ALSO HAVING SAME PRODUCT WITH LESS PRICE. CHECK THEIR WEBSITE:Kaulson Racing ...... GO !!!!!!!!!!!! For KRP.

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

Thanks bro

. I checked the above link of kaulson racing(Kaulson Racing ...... GO !!!!!!!!!!!! For KRP), it says only 650/- have anyone bought it. Its roughly the half offered by saferide. But saferide seems like a good one compared to the other.

Havent u read all the posts in this thread dude? I made a post on #28. Pls read it and decide what to select.

U can get a cheap chinese junk for a discounted price now

.

**Anupdas** · 01-21-2010, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by sajjt View Post

Havent u read all the posts in this thread dude? I made a post on #28. Pls read it and decide what to select.

U can get a cheap chinese junk for a discounted price now

.

Yes i read them all. It seems only you are using KRP ABS, rest all are using saferide. Im hesitating since KRP is a chineese product

. Most of the posts were by those using saferide thats why i opted for it

though it is costly.

**sajjt** · 01-21-2010, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

Yes i read them all. It seems only you are using KRP ABS, rest all are using saferide. Im hesitating since KRP is a chineese product

. Most of the posts were by those using saferide thats why i opted for it

though it is costly.

Wise decision

**Anupdas** · 01-21-2010, 05:59 PM

Dont be sarcastic

Originally posted by sajjt View Post

Wise decision

Hey dont just answer in one word

. You made your point clear early yet once again im asking which one shall i choose

?

**Anupdas** · 01-21-2010, 06:13 PM

Originally posted by rahul9985 View Post

Yeah iam using them on both discs. Its worth the moolah spent.

I can advice u a bit on braking. Whenever u have to brake hard always use rear brakes first. As soon as the forks dive in, squeeze the front lever. Upon using the rear brakes first the bike stops accelerating & the weight shifts to the front & the weight on the front tyre increases. Hence due to more traction it grips better.
If u directly squeeze the front lever without letting the forks dive in the front tyre tends to skid. The reason being the front tyre is carrying much lesser weight & hence traction which it offers is less. So the tyre skids & may lead to a fall as well.

Intially u may be uncomfortable but keep on practicing & u will soon brake better.

Originally posted by R-series View Post

Just to highlight...your wrong on this point.
If you try to find out...the centre of gravity (in standing position) is on the front half of the bike. While accelarating - it shifts backwards towards the rear and while braking it moves further ahead (towards the front)
If your concerned with the front loosing grip...i would like to bring to your attention that the rear looses traction before the front.
you can check that by applying equal amount of force on both front and rear brakes and you will notice...the rear will look first.
and thats the reason why rear breaks are made weaker compared to the front (in any vehical). As the rear tends to loose grip easier than the front.

That was some good explanations guys. What im about to say is purely my own idea, as rahul9985 said its always better to apply rear brakes and then front. The weight shifting from the normal to front will be gradual in that case i.e. when we are applying the front brake some weight is already shifted to the front and hence will offer better traction. While the weight shifting will be very rapid incase we first apply front brake. When the forks dive in the centre of gravity is not just moving to front but it is also lowering which will bring some more stability. As i early mentioned these are all just my inferences, correct me if im wrong

**Huzee** · 06-17-2010, 11:32 AM

Does this product actually do what it says ? Forget what the manufacturer says, they r more concerned in selling the product rather than the actual performance...
Though how does it work? with a series of valves and diaphrams I guess...
Pls post your experiences guys, those who r using safe Saferide ABS
As for KRP, any chinese product is not worth the price no matter how low, even if its free, keep away from the dammm things

Brakes are a matter of safety the more expensive the product the better...

**PRATIK322** · 06-17-2010, 12:28 PM

ABS saved my life

Hey,

Hi everyone and yes I said it right "ABS saved MY LIFE". actually in the incidence which happened 3 days prior , I saved A obnoxious Girl who happen to jump in between the flyover (I hope you all get the point , since on a flyover there's not a possibility that some one would ever cross the road since its elevated

) and this was my first day with ABS , OMG what to do next I inadvertently jabbed the brakes (front with rather more pressure on it ) and to my astonishment this thing works , I really dont care what others say THIS thing gives you a very strong and controlled braking, my bike was stable like a rock while i braked from around 65Kmph in a matter of 3bikes length with a pillion while its still raining. You know what , what happened next is just kinda nightmare this guy with CBZ X-treme at the back which was still far away (say abou 5-6 bike lengths) could not handle the situation and hit my babe 15 (WTF..

@!#$%) but you know what he got his headlight assembly completely broken with right leg gard completely bent +front T-bar bent...and he manged all this with a minor fracture(I hope and pray) in left hand index finger and a pinkie.
Bros I have driven bikes since long and I know many of you also have but truly this thing works, this worked for me, It saved that poor girls Life (though it was completely her mistake and truly her sorry's and sobbs cant take any of our miseries back but then she learned an imp lesson ).
I was about to post evry pic related to this accident and ABS and my broken things

but never matter. The point I wanna make here is that ABS works and you know what when you are on the road or track somethings small like (ABS worth around 1675 INR for the front & rear calipers ) is any day a price one (or at-least I)could live with when you understand the importance of braking it might save LIFe or Time everythings worth it.
BTW I must tell you I was very very strongly skeptical about ABS before installing it, mine is as otheres may say cheap china one but hey I just beg to differ that how on earth can the quality be so diff much of difference when the thing I have is full Aluminum anodized unit which just manipulates fluid mechanism. More of I have seen it, that this thing increases your braking and stability by almost 25-45% for sure.
With no intentions to brag or something, I must tell you that I honed 1st position in Novice class in Track racing on a stock R15, so you may assume that i know at least some in and outs in braking...
any further questions are more that welcome ...

**Huzee** · 06-17-2010, 06:22 PM

your narration below almost sounds like an advt. for some ABS company

jokes apart... I am very unconvinced about this product, but if it does work as u say it does, then u made a right decision in installing it... IF I do install it I would go for the more expensive Indian product, which is much better than the chinese one anyday...

ey I just beg to differ that how on earth can the quality be so diff much of difference when the thing I have is full Aluminum anodized unit which just manipulates fluid mechanism.

dosent matter what is outside... the inside is what counts, the valves and diaphrams are what makes the product wht it is...
btw the Indian one is solid brass.

Pls do post a pic of the ABS unit...

Originally posted by PRATIK322 View Post

Hey,

Hi everyone and yes I said it right "ABS saved MY LIFE". actually in the incidence which happened 3 days prior , I saved A obnoxious Girl who happen to jump in between the flyover (I hope you all get the point , since on a flyover there's not a possibility that some one would ever cross the road since its elevated

) and this was my first day with ABS , OMG what to do next I inadvertently jabbed the brakes (front with rather more pressure on it ) and to my astonishment this thing works , I really dont care what others say THIS thing gives you a very strong and controlled braking, my bike was stable like a rock while i braked from around 65Kmph in a matter of 3bikes length with a pillion while its still raining. You know what , what happened next is just kinda nightmare this guy with CBZ X-treme at the back which was still far away (say abou 5-6 bike lengths) could not handle the situation and hit my babe 15 (WTF..

@!#$%) but you know what he got his headlight assembly completely broken with right leg gard completely bent +front T-bar bent...and he manged all this with a minor fracture(I hope and pray) in left hand index finger and a pinkie.
Bros I have driven bikes since long and I know many of you also have but truly this thing works, this worked for me, It saved that poor girls Life (though it was completely her mistake and truly her sorry's and sobbs cant take any of our miseries back but then she learned an imp lesson ).
I was about to post evry pic related to this accident and ABS and my broken things

but never matter. The point I wanna make here is that ABS works and you know what when you are on the road or track somethings small like (ABS worth around 1675 INR for the front & rear calipers ) is any day a price one (or at-least I)could live with when you understand the importance of braking it might save LIFe or Time everythings worth it.
BTW I must tell you I was very very strongly skeptical about ABS before installing it, mine is as otheres may say cheap china one but hey I just beg to differ that how on earth can the quality be so diff much of difference when the thing I have is full Aluminum anodized unit which just manipulates fluid mechanism. More of I have seen it, that this thing increases your braking and stability by almost 25-45% for sure.
With no intentions to brag or something, I must tell you that I honed 1st position in Novice class in Track racing on a stock R15, so you may assume that i know at least some in and outs in braking...
any further questions are more that welcome ...

**PRATIK322** · 06-17-2010, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Huzee View Post

your narration below almost sounds like an advt. for some ABS company

jokes apart... I am very unconvinced about this product, but if it does work as u say it does, then u made a right decision in installing it... IF I do install it I would go for the more expensive Indian product, which is much better than the chinese one anyday...

dosent matter what is outside... the inside is what counts, the valves and diaphrams are what makes the product wht it is...
btw the Indian one is solid brass.

Pls do post a pic of the ABS unit...

yes indeed i shall post pics but my bike is very dirty due to rain and all. And M really sorry if I sounded like a sales man and LOL

i really m thinking all the ppl and their theories , Nobody actually posted the actual facts on the forum related to ABS and when I did m quoted as a sales man

. Bro now coming to engg dynamics . tell me if you have two options (forget abt INDIAN OR OTHER) one is full alum. anodised which is much lighter than brass and secondly the vendor here said that this thing is calibrated for specifically for bike m applying for . Well you are smarter one.And BTW even IPHONE4 AND Ipad is assembles in china which as far as i can see are the the benchmarks for quality. Soo I think you belong to the subset of ppl which always say costlier is best. and then there are ppl who always tend to beat these so called "smarter" ppl by "Mass Production and Labor cost"

(pun intended) And to be true I dont wanna discuss or rather justify my choice and more over mine is even costlier than the saferide( my friend on a cbz has a safe ride as well). So to be honest my choice was purely my call...

And all i wanted to say is that ABS is effective and if at all ppl dont realize it they wont use it and this may lead to many unwanted results and more off I never said buy ABS from me or something like that (M studying Engg final yr E&com ), I just said go for it any brand anything. And I hope you realize that I said ABS saved my life, Y would a person like me would tell a real life situation to his fellow Bhpians to sell and that too for few hundred bucks forget it man... I just wanna be one of the first to help others that's it.

and its all together your call what you do with your bike like I said I was amongst all other ppl like you who wanted to know how and whats the effect of ABS in real life situation and all but nobody boldly cared , so when I have had seen something in real Y not tell others & then u say i sound like sales man. may be someday your perception shall change.

I have got too much from Xbhp and Let me tell you one thing I was abt to post a DIY on angel eyes

just to help all Xbhpians , since ppl ouside are charging them hefty moolhaas

, but then a fellow Bhpians restrained me to do so, he said there ppl like me and then there are some wolfs who wanna mint money out of ppl who shall cut copy and paste (ctr-C & ctr-V).

And finally I said ABS worked for me try it yourself and get anything you like the brass,anything. (Sorry bro just in case i inadvertently saied something which i should never have, i hope you get my point)

Happy and safe riding...

**csgup1** · 06-20-2010, 09:36 PM

ABS is an excellent thing specially for newer riders on indian roads. Even for seasoned riders in a panic situation its fantastic. However I wont be able to make up my mind about these devices unless I see them in person. If they work that is incredible and a worthwhile attachment to your bike and well worth their weight in gold even if they save you once.

Till then can I recommend going through the following topic to see if it is any help to you or even add anything that I may have missed out.

Lessons from the track: Performance braking : How to setup and brake effectively - xBhp.com : The Global Indian Biking Community

http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/universal-threads/13367-lessons-track-performance-braking-how-setup-brake-effectively.html

The gold mine of all the topics which are frequently discussed..

Cheers
Angad

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