My 2 cents, RVMs are a must to drive/ride anything. If someone says his personal style is different, I would say he is just plain lucky. I had started driving before I started riding. So, I know how important they are. Infact, I feel extremely handicapped without them - can not drive at more that 20kmph without them! And this makes me unable to test ride most of my friends bike fully! (Most of them have removed these RVMs just for the sake of looks)

I have always used RVM's on my bikes and i feel very safe.
Even if one RVM is not present i feel uncomfortable.
And i dont use the RVM as a showpiece on my bike but i make full
use of it.

The guys who dont have it for various reasons, u might be right in
your sense of riding. But its better to be safe than to be sorry.

Cheeeers......

DUH!!! Looks !

@above
DUH!!! STUPID !


@all
why are all you guys saying its my opinion.. i think.. bla bla?
you have RVM's for a reason. a time tested reason. we use it for a reason !!
unless these guys who can ride without RVM's are supermen
i dont give a shit to their idea that they can ride without them.
who the hell is affected cause of these people who dont use RVMs?
US !! the other users on the roads. these a-holes will not give a shit about the traffic behind.
you can best realise this when driving a car. they will simple "cut" through every nook and cranny without looking back.
car drivers have to hit the brakes hard everytime so that they dont kill these RVM-less riders.

it also shows when they wanna change lanes from the extreme left to the extreme right.
they just swerve. no consideration for the traffic behind.
i had to brake hard so many times not only cause they dont have lane sense
but also lack rear view mirrors.

Most people remove their RVMs not cause they cant use it
cause they broke it or more stupidly
cause their bikes look better without it !!

YES PEOPLE WHO RIDE WITHOUT RVMs ARE STUPID IF NOT MENTALLY DERANGED. (not opinion, fact!)
YES OFFENCE !!
GO KILL YOURSELF DONT KILL MY FAMILY OR FRIENDS.


@JD
you said why not make RVM's compulsary like saree gaurd, helmet bla bla.. RVM's are compulsary. it comes as standard fitment in all bikes these days cause its govt rule that it should be.

I had often observed young riders angling the RVMs inwards and use it to adjust their hair or looks ,at signals. Whenever I see bikes with RVMs angled inwards, I avoid overtaking them , or use my horn a little more to warn of my intent... But the most irritating thing is when you come back to your parked 2 wheeler and find the RVMs twisted out of your setting by someone to preen their looks. In Chennai RVMs, like sari and crash guards ,is compulsory

i had installed a mirror even in my cycle.i am not at all comfortable without them
Now on my bike i cant imagine riding without one even though mine isn't that great

The same reason some bikers dont wear a Helmet
The same reason why some driver dont wear a seat belt
i.e they are foolish!

Young riders remove the RVM because either the RVM dosent look good or to make their bike look more like a Track or MTX bike.
the other and the most common reason is that none of them EVEN USE THEM!

^^ Speechless! Don't what other "innovative" reasons people can come up with.

Horn for you to stop? Now what is this?

Why bother so much? Why not fit a RVM? Imagine a auto/rick driver who is on a high & suddenly decides to pull all stops to overtake you?
What if you are standing at a light and a Car's brakes fail? Would you spot it? It won't screech to warn you.


You can always adjust the RVM pointing slightly downwards for night riding, the road will be illuminated much earlier as a pointer of a faster vechile approaching you and no it won't blind you.
My forearms protect me from sunlight's glare.

Hope you aren't wearing your undies when you go for your routine weight check up.
Space, what if the Car decides to wag its tail? Hope you never come across this situation.
Have you have removed bar-end weights and have chopped the handlebars a bit for those extra mm?
What obstructs you?
Please keep your helmet at your home too, it might get stolen.

Ha, everyone please laugh.
Why not add double RVM? As in the 15/P-220/fazer mould and keep the stock one too?
One for hair/face.
and the other for bird spotting.


And you would glance at it. Sweet man.

Hope the dark humor puts some sense & they begin to see RVM's and its function in a different light.

I was the first guy to start a thread way back in '04 about RVM's, I hadn't put them as it appeared cool and clean, but on the advise of fellow Motorcyclists put them on and I simply can't ride without one. I never objected to their good intentions, calmly heard one and all & decided what harakiri was I attempting.
Infact I either to take a wide margin while overtaking lidless riders w/o RVM.
I don't honk, why would I? They will shift attention to see me & crash into a Cow.

Bwahahahaha..... that was funny !

I think it is a sign of immaturity nothing else....
there are so many 18-19years guys mostly non xbhp members who first remove the RVM's after purchasing there machine just for "looks".
And AFAIK as we grow up all these things doesnt matter to us thats because for a mature rider what matters is Safety nothing else.

Even P220 riders who mostly ride with folded mirrors look like morons to me.
and please dont discuss about the riders who try to make Namaste sign using both RVMs ...

I/We at xbhp stand to gain nothing by preaching safety, I agree sometimes the puns are not taken well.

It is for you dear Motorcyclists, to make you aware of good riding habits and the usage and advantages of riding gear.

What did I gain, contributing 1/2hr by quoting/editing my posts? I just hope the ones who don't value safety, may somehow realize the importance of riding safely and escape the numerous hazards on our roads and save themselves and at the same time not be a threat to fellow road-users.

On Team-Bhp, there is a thread going, Bad Drivers - How do you spot 'em - Team-BHP and the majority(okay all) claim to steer away from someone whose RVM's are folded. As sadly in a Car, you can't remove them. The same logic applies for Motorcycles as well. How the hell would you know someone is coming & coming fast? May be w/o brakes/under influence? Feel? BS.
The next day you(yes, the one w/o RVM) would say, my 'hearing & feel' criteria has become poor by wearing a helmet as it in someway masks the 'hear & feel' aspect and skews it.
For your own safety and others, please wear proper gear, use RVM's and ride responsibly.

now thats the way to put it ! u are the only guy who was polite enough. hats off.

@ANY ONE AGAINST RVMs:-The horn of my bike was dead for atleast 10 days(NOT MY FAULT-the spares took a lot of time to come).Imagine over taking without a horn..I had to use the flash lights every time...
the people with RVMs,were easy to overtake.but,without RVMs,??I just cursed the people.
I sometimes use to shout with my throat out.
People thinking,that they are gud enough without RVMs are the biggest fools.They do cause a lot of problems for others,without there own knowledge.

RVMs are not 'that important' in slow moving heavy city traffic, but are necessary while riding on fast moving roads. I have a habit of using RVMs without which I feel there's something missing. But when I learned biking on my dad's chetak, it didn't have any RVM and I never felt the need since I was overcautious always. I used to look back for a second while making a right turn or changing lanes to overtake. But after riding motorcycles for past few years, RVMs have become very helpful for me.

I can understand how some people like thunder ride without using them. The have to be overcautious and have to turn their heads back many a times.

But majority of the riders are not that cautious of what is following them. Hence for them riding without RVMs is necessary.

Whenever I ask people why they removed their RVMs, the answer is same : "traffic mein problem hoti hai". But I never really felt that much of a problem while riding in heavy traffic with both RVMs.

When I bought my ZMR 6 months back, some of my friends told me that the RVMs are spoiling the look of the bike. I was like 'gimme a break'. The situation is even worst when they say that, like uncles, why do I wear a helmet? Once I answered one of them, "why don't you remove the brake levers of your bike, they are destroying the look of your bike".



In my college parking stand, there are less than 5% of bikes which have RVMs fitted. And most of the college students use those mirrors for setting their hair. I feel like killing them who change the position of my RVMs for setting their hair and keep it that way for me to again align them back.

very very very important
the habit of looking in the rear view can save someone from making costly mistakes