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**Choto Cheeta** · 06-29-2010, 03:58 AM

excellent mod you have made..

**sajjt** · 06-29-2010, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by SARAB_FI View Post

ThE modification which is suggested by our mate can also be applicable to rtr fi?
As i guess there is a bit difference in electrical system as compare to carb models. because of inclusion of fi sytem (i.e ecu, dc fuel pump,sensors) and there is a big capacitor placed under the tank which is connected with electrical harness might be in connection with battery to store up electrical charge and to supports battery output.
My duvidha!!
If i rewind the coil and draws output from it( i guess it means i m drawing power from lighting coil only, correct me if m wrong) will there be any problem with fi system, like now if i remove my battery, the whole system ( including fuel pump) runs on magneto power only.
last month i convert all my lighting load to dc by tapping a wire from dc circuit(fuel pump ckt) but after two weeks battery's plates( charging capability becomes zero) gone due to fast draining of charges from battery, now i again switched to stock setup with ups battery of 9amp.

My question is this k if i increase its charging rate by only replacing stock RR with APE RR is it enough?

Dude, can u start an MPFI car without a batt? Its just like that u need a batt to power the fuel pump so there's no question of removing the batt and starting the engine. Once u convert everything to DC and the charging rates r improved there will not be any strain on ur batt and it will work smarter than stock condition.

What u've done is just a tapping of the existing stock DC to a halo which is not supported by the stock charging rates. And thats the role of APE RR and the coil rewinding, its capable of pumping in what ever it gets in the input end as there's no bottle neck limitations of 3A in the stock RR. APE RR will pump a max of 20A which is not possible to generate from a bike AFAIK.

If u dont rewind the coil, u can think of a max of an 35W HID/Halo. U cant upgrade the lights untill u rewind the coils, but being a FI engine its batt drain will be more than a carburated ones as the fuel pump will take extra power and to conclude, rewinding is a must.

**rider60** · 07-18-2010, 08:13 PM

nice write up mate, this would serve as a manual for all the RTR owners who would want to upgrade their eletricals. i do intend to do this to my RTR 180 delivery due next month.

and i have a few questions regarding the same.

can some one tell me how to find out the copper wire being sold is of 19 guage, and how do i make sure the quality being sold is good?

i would want to eliminate the same by purchasing an OEM stator coil of another bike for the wire, which would ensure a 19 guage wire size and quality. And buy the rest of the OEM items as mentioned earlier.

or if there is another way of ensuring a 19 guage size and quality wire procurement, i mean if there another brand of wire seller or some way do tell me.

and if some one can explain the procedure of winding the wire, just so that, i can be sure the eletrician is doing the job right. at least the donts if not the dos regarding the same would be the same.

thank you for all the help in advance.

**drvmtm** · 07-18-2010, 08:52 PM

read the boldy for ans.

Originally posted by rider60 View Post

nice write up mate, this would serve as a manual for all the RTR owners who would want to upgrade their eletricals. i do intend to do this to my RTR 180 delivery due next month.
i am honored.

.thank u
and i have a few questions regarding the same.

can some one tell me how to find out the copper wire being sold is of 19 guage, and how do i make sure the quality being sold is good?
its wriiten on the spool or the roll of the wire.also if you have a proper measuring caliper there is a outer diameter of the wire by which can tell its which gauge after removing the insulation.

i would want to eliminate the same by purchasing an OEM stator coil of another bike for the wire, which would ensure a 19 guage wire size and quality. And buy the rest of the OEM items as mentioned earlier.
one small prob mate.no oem coil will have 19 gauge wire.rest is ok,as your time will be saved also the bike will have no down time.also a winded wire when stripped out can have some cracks on its insulatin which can result is short.better to use brand new wire,oe even better use the help of professionals.

or if there is another way of ensuring a 19 guage size and quality wire procurement, i mean if there another brand of wire seller or some way do tell me.

and if some one can explain the procedure of winding the wire, just so that, i can be sure the eletrician is doing the job right. at least the donts if not the dos regarding the same would be the same.
simple,first pole clockwise,second is anti clock,then clock,then anti clock............
here is a picture,the only diff is you have all 8 poles toplay with...so the job is simple in apaches then pulsars....

wind neatly as possible.....see

thank you for all the help in advance.

hope this helps.

**drvmtm** · 07-19-2010, 10:29 AM

converted p 200 to full dc ,also bcu bypassed.

converted p 200 to full dc ,also bcu bypassed.done by friend fellow xbhpian bibek.
details coming soon.

**rider60** · 07-19-2010, 12:28 PM

drvmtm, dude thank you for the reply but the pics you loaded appear to be broken please do reload them. thnaks again.

**sajjt** · 07-19-2010, 12:34 PM

Originally posted by drvmtm View Post

converted p 200 to full dc ,also bcu bypassed.done by friend fellow xbhpian bibek.
details coming soon.

Good going dr. Why dont u start a help desk?

**pavanchirmade** · 07-19-2010, 01:34 PM

BCU bypass BCU bypass BCU bypass !!!!!!!!!

Waiting waiting!!!

**abhijeet080808** · 07-19-2010, 03:26 PM

^^ Mostly you have to use old gen switchgears though!

**pavanchirmade** · 07-19-2010, 05:26 PM

What are those links Doc? Can't see them

**pavanchirmade** · 07-19-2010, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

^^ Mostly you have to use old gen switchgears though!

How about the P135 switchgears?

**drvmtm** · 07-19-2010, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by sajjt View Post

Good going dr. Why dont u start a help desk?

hehe.

Originally posted by pavanchirmade View Post

BCU bypass BCU bypass BCU bypass !!!!!!!!!
info coming soon.
Waiting waiting!!!

Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post

^^ Mostly you have to use old gen switchgears though!

yes abhi,you are correct.

**pavanchirmade** · 07-19-2010, 05:29 PM

You have a PM Doc!
And the links you posted are from GMAIL. You cannot post links from the mailbox. It won't work right?

**pavanchirmade** · 07-23-2010, 11:54 PM

No updates still! Wassup DOC?

**drvmtm** · 07-25-2010, 04:20 AM

oh sorry for late update.

p 135 also uses contact less type.even there can be dc convertion without throwing away the bcu.the ac line from the rr out can be given dc and the thing should work.otherwise ,bcu can be removed with the switch gears,we have to use contact type switch gears.zma switches are better if pulsars are not upto someones taste.

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