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  • #61
    Originally posted by sajjt View Post
    OMG, Drji, this is too cruel. HIDs on Comet 450 Its one of the best pencil beams with a long distance spread. If u arm it with a HID then its an over kill Its so powerful even with a H3 55W so imagine with a HID

    As a responsible rider you should not promote such mods IMHO. And I honestly wish some good Samaritan should take care of it soon.

    My hands are itching to go for Hella on my bike but there are many Hella Specific thieves are here to snatch it within minutes even from a car. One of my friend lost his Comet 200 from his car within 2 weeks of installation and that too from a crowded public place within 10 mins.

    But once u see the performance of this you'll die for it and the fear of getting stolen am backing from it. Anyways am thinking of another Hella FF50 as an aux lamp for my car which is very compact too.

    Here's it:


    See the beam spread pattern:



    This is more than enough to screw the happiness of a casual high beam rider Lets forget the adamant morons for our happiness and safety sake. Once I had a bitter experience from a truck who was deliberately using all his 4X130W, I flashed my 2 spots which was aligned slightly above the normal height. Once I've finished 2-3 flashes he put another 2 more sets from the hood which was secretly installed and aimed parallel. I couldn't see a thing for a few secs and some how managed safely.

    Set back will be 5k and the plus point is this one uses a H7 bulb so the beam spread quality is awesome than with a H3.

    BTW, Comet 450 is too big for a bike IMO. But its like a laser beam in action with enough lighting up the surroundings.




    Shree check with a 90/100 on city conditions before proceeding with a 100W HID, I think it may fry your battery at startup unless u dont keep the revs up.

    You guys are sadistic nuts to go for a 100W HID on a reflector without that you can make any highbeam A$$ H@L@ with a good aux lamp with halos like Drji pointed out.
    lol ,sajjit,you are a good human being man!well this is not my ride its a fellow brother from xbhp,bibek not vivek,
    for sane city and highway use we are still using halogen with relay 55/60 to keep it sane.but for some off road action where we stay a place called WESTBENGAL,where roads dosent exist after the main city,these are need then overkill.
    yes the throw is too good.i have one in my pulsar and feel the light is very nice.the hid dosent flood it self all over.
    in my opinion also the 450 is bigger but there is no smaller unit then this at least in the price product ratio.
    ff 50 is good but not great,sorry if i dissapoint you.better go for hella ff 300.its the best among 50/100/300.
    50 is not that great and you will feel the pain once you install.
    yes the throw is better in case of h 7 ,basically it widens the beam a bit more.at least thats my observation when i checked lastime in hella shop.
    i seriously suggest you to go for hella 300 or at least 200,.put some hid capsule inside on the lower ratings,it will be very potent tool.
    and please dont say we are going overboard ,see this.if you are unhappy as we are using hids,fine i am happy if you can invent a electrical system which can pull 2 55/60 bulbs halogen effortlessly the i will ditch all the hids,i promise you that.you know its not possible to produce that much power without getting drastic,so be it.also hids are not for city use i told you that it s only for highway use,a single lane highway.i hope you got my feelings.



    Last edited by drvmtm; 04-13-2011, 10:56 PM.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by sajjt View Post
      You guys are sadistic nuts to go for a 100W HID on a reflector without that you can make any highbeam A$$ H@L@ with a good aux lamp with halos like Drji pointed out.
      Originally posted by Shreeni0403 View Post
      100w HID doesn't come with a motorized bulb to switch between beams so I thought of getting Bi-Xenon Projector or ...... to put 100w HID in a aux lamp on handle bar to ruin the happiness of others and retain 35w HID in stock. That way I can play safe with battery too.
      Arrey Sajan bhai I guess U missed something.

      Anyways I have dropped the plan of getting 100w HID for the bike. So chill

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      • #63
        hello again guys!!!!
        i met a local mech who is ready to do the FULL-DC conversion for my A180..
        but he s asking 3k for it... does it really cost so much????
        Last edited by Kirankj1724; 04-25-2011, 03:02 PM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Kirankj1724 View Post
          hello again guys!!!!
          i met a local mech who is ready to do the FULL-DC conversion for my A180..
          but he s asking 3k for it... does it really cost so much????
          rr=1100 inr
          coil rewind 500 inr max
          wiring and relay for 55/60 halogen and oher mislanious=250inr
          mech =?
          you do the math
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          • #65
            Originally posted by drvmtm View Post
            rr=1100 inr
            coil rewind 500 inr max
            wiring and relay for 55/60 halogen and oher mislanious=250inr
            mech =?
            you do the math
            thanx for the info.
            and BTW got a projector+HID kit..

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            • #66
              Hi Guys

              I would be getting a Apache 180 in a few days thanks to all of you who helped me with the selection process by your accurate and unbiased reviews. I am planning to convert it to full DC but I have one question. Assuming I want to run on stock 35W bulbs and flicker free lighting is my only aim, would only fitting the ape rr suffice(without rewinding)? I am asking because electricals have always been my weak point and my understanding is that rewinding is done to allow higher wattage bulbs to be used. please correct and guide.
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              • #67
                A li'l help??

                Hi guys,

                I have an Avenger 200 and as you know it has AC+DC wiring.. Will this method work on my bike too?? If there's anything specific i need to do differently for it??
                I really gotta get rid of the flicker and need a really good light setup.. As i travel a lot! And i can barely see anything with the stock head light nowadays.. Way too dim! Please help..

                Thanks..
                Bajaj Avenger 200 (2 years later, still as good as new!!) ;)

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                • #68
                  need help!!!
                  in the hunt for DC conversion.. i came aceoss a mech. He says he would replace the current battery to a korean battery.. and add an extra coil...
                  by doing this he says the charging system of my bike will improve... and i won't have any probs. den on...
                  Is he right??

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                  • #69
                    just one quick question: where can i get hold of the ape rr unit in bangalore? can someone put up an address?? an address in south bangalore is preferable as i stay in bsk 3rd stage. thanks.
                    In parallel worlds, there are parallel me copies.. wonder what they are up to...

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                    • #70
                      APE RR you will get at the APE SVC at Hennur signal.
                      Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Kirankj1724 View Post
                        need help!!!
                        in the hunt for DC conversion.. i came aceoss a mech. He says he would replace the current battery to a korean battery.. and add an extra coil...
                        by doing this he says the charging system of my bike will improve... and i won't have any probs. den on...
                        Is he right??

                        pls reply to my query

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Kirankj1724 View Post
                          pls reply to my query
                          Nope, just a bigger battery does not help much.

                          Add a extra coil?!! Does not make sense.
                          Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Kirankj1724 View Post
                            pls reply to my query
                            Ask ur hi fi mechanic whether this will give a min backup of 3 hrs ride with a 55/60W bulb and watch out his face colour

                            If he can guarantee that, go for it but don't pay for it untill and unless u cross check what I said first. Pls share it here also, so that we can also update

                            U need to change the stator coils along with the RR with some wire mods for a full DC conversion. There's no easy tweaks for this AFAIK.
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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                              Nope, just a bigger battery does not help much.

                              Add a extra coil?!! Does not make sense.
                              He said it would help increase the rate of charging..


                              Originally posted by sajjt View Post
                              Ask ur hi fi mechanic whether this will give a min backup of 3 hrs ride with a 55/60W bulb and watch out his face colour

                              If he can guarantee that, go for it but don't pay for it untill and unless u cross check what I said first. Pls share it here also, so that we can also update

                              U need to change the stator coils along with the RR with some wire mods for a full DC conversion. There's no easy tweaks for this AFAIK.

                              suppose if i use any other RR unit.. s dr a prob or ne disadvantage???
                              and wen i spoke to a guy in Ruby electricals he said der might be prob wit self start at night... s it true???

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Kirankj1724 View Post
                                He said it would help increase the rate of charging..

                                suppose if i use any other RR unit.. s dr a prob or ne disadvantage???
                                and wen i spoke to a guy in Ruby electricals he said der might be prob wit self start at night... s it true???
                                Firstly pls use bit more legible style of posting so that everyone can understand what you have actually meant. Of course we are so pampered with the SMS language, but here we can type atleast the first few letters with the KB. The last para is too irritating at least for me. Hope u take it in the right spirit

                                You can upgrade with a higher capacity RR, but there should be enough thrust from the coil, else there's no point in plonking the RR alone.

                                Ruby guys are correct, without rewinding and swapping with a good RR the charging rates wont improve and obviously the battery will drain fast while your headlight is on. For cranking the battery should be in good health, this state can't be achieved with the above mentioned tweak.
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