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    Hi All ! i own a cbz xreme from june 2010.

    I finished my forst service.till now completd 1100 kms .

    I am worried about My bike's Engine.

    After reaching 45 kmph the bike starts vibrating a "urrrrrrrrrrr"
    sound is been produced []

    Is the cbz xtreme always produce so?Cant i get smooth ride like ridding in pulsar.

    I can even feel the vibrations near the place where my lap would touch, even @ 30kmph.

    And one more weird thing, some times,bike sound like screaming,like if i give a heavy acceleration even i totlally close the throttle.

    What i am worried is I learned ridding bike(gear shifting) only with this cbz xtrme,so initially i may have screwed up the engine?i do felt some burning smell @ very start of riding.

    Also i am not yet practised with smooth gear shifting. some times i may make the bike little bit uncomfort with gear shift.

    Do these thing could have made my engine go crazy.

    Can i fix this?Can i get my bike to smooth condition.?

    Kindly provide me your valuable suggestions and experience.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Karthikeyan_M View Post
      Hi All ! i own a cbz xreme from june 2010.

      I finished my forst service.till now completd 1100 kms .

      I am worried about My bike's Engine.

      After reaching 45 kmph the bike starts vibrating a "urrrrrrrrrrr"
      sound is been produced []

      Is the cbz xtreme always produce so?Cant i get smooth ride like ridding in pulsar.

      I can even feel the vibrations near the place where my lap would touch, even @ 30kmph.

      And one more weird thing, some times,bike sound like screaming,like if i give a heavy acceleration even i totlally close the throttle.

      What i am worried is I learned ridding bike(gear shifting) only with this cbz xtrme,so initially i may have screwed up the engine?i do felt some burning smell @ very start of riding.

      Also i am not yet practised with smooth gear shifting. some times i may make the bike little bit uncomfort with gear shift.

      Do these thing could have made my engine go crazy.

      Can i fix this?Can i get my bike to smooth condition.?

      Kindly provide me your valuable suggestions and experience.
      There could be many reasons for it , as you said bike is just 2 months old.. here are the questions for you from my side
      1) did u followed running in guidelines for your bike like not exceeding 50kmph for first 1K kms?

      2) Is the engine oil used is of correct recommended grade and is it upto the fill quantity, this also might be the reason for vibrations.

      Next thing you need to check is Carburator tuning , i think we have good Carb tuning guideline in Xbhp , search in universal threads.
      on 4 wheels u feel the speed after a crash, 2 wheelers are much more advanced

      Ananthagiri Trip

      Kemmannagundi-Mulliyanagiri

      Ooty trip

      Tirumala-horsley Hills

      Kudremukh

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      • #4
        Speed is a joy but roads are not race track. Keep speed in your limit and always Drive safe...

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        • #5
          every bike has got little vibrations in some range my bike also has vibrations b/w 5-6K rpm. Little bit of vibs are not an issue , its serious only if they are in most of RPM range. Its not gauranteed that your carb is in stock condition even though you have not changed it Service guys may have done that and not all service guys know how to tune carb.
          on 4 wheels u feel the speed after a crash, 2 wheelers are much more advanced

          Ananthagiri Trip

          Kemmannagundi-Mulliyanagiri

          Ooty trip

          Tirumala-horsley Hills

          Kudremukh

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          • #6
            It is relatively new, hence the burning smell. And yes, Honda's engines don't screw up so easily.

            The bike's fine, don't worry.
            " I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not" - Kurt Cobain

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            • #7
              Originally posted by pabi View Post
              every bike has got little vibrations in some range my bike also has vibrations b/w 5-6K rpm. Little bit of vibs are not an issue , its serious only if they are in most of RPM range. Its not gauranteed that your carb is in stock condition even though you have not changed it Service guys may have done that and not all service guys know how to tune carb.
              Speed is a joy but roads are not race track. Keep speed in your limit and always Drive safe...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by soumen.sam View Post
                Pabi from the beginning I’ve been doing my bike’s servicing by myself and I haven’t touched the carb yet. So why I’m confirm that the carb is in stock setting. How ever the low jet is maybe a little richer side, but rich mixture reduce vibration AFAIK. I’ve tried few other same bikes and they produce comparable less vibration than mine.

                I change the oil frequently, keep the air filter clean, every possible thing I do.
                Good to hear that you service your own bike, can you teach me how do you do that , atleast some basic things. Coming to point as you maintain every thing correctly lets start with basic things like are there any loose screws .. if everything is correct then something to do with engine. I am not sure about the following but have a check whether oil is drained out very soon leaving engine rough, any oil leakages... at last option check whether piston movement is smooth any rough areas around it.
                Last edited by pabi; 08-11-2010, 09:58 PM.
                on 4 wheels u feel the speed after a crash, 2 wheelers are much more advanced

                Ananthagiri Trip

                Kemmannagundi-Mulliyanagiri

                Ooty trip

                Tirumala-horsley Hills

                Kudremukh

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by pabi View Post
                  Good to hear that you service your own bike, can you teach me how do you do that , atleast some basic things. Coming to point as you maintain every thing correctly lets start with basic things like are there any loose screws .. if everything is correct then something to do with engine. I am not sure about the following but have a check whether oil is drained out very soon leaving engine rough, any oil leakages... at last option check whether piston movement is smooth any rough areas around it.
                  Speed is a joy but roads are not race track. Keep speed in your limit and always Drive safe...

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                  • #10
                    Cbz xtreme vibration

                    Originally posted by pabi View Post
                    There could be many reasons for it , as you said bike is just 2 months old.. here are the questions for you from my side
                    1) did u followed running in guidelines for your bike like not exceeding 50kmph for first 1K kms?

                    2) Is the engine oil used is of correct recommended grade and is it upto the fill quantity, this also might be the reason for vibrations.

                    Next thing you need to check is Carburator tuning , i think we have good Carb tuning guideline in Xbhp , search in universal threads.
                    hi Thanks for the reply.

                    Answers:
                    1)yes i didnt exceed 40 kmph till first service ie 500kms.
                    2)engine oil is as recommended by HH.But i am nt sure about the fill quantity. can i check it? how?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by soumen.sam View Post
                      Thanks for you comments pabi, please be specific which part you want to learn?

                      As I’ve said it’s a 100% technically maintained bike. And as it has done only 8k+ km so its very general that I didn’t disassembled the engine components so far, until it has any major problem. As for the basic things top to bottom, front to end every thing is 100% correct expect the correct nut/bolt torque, as I don’t have a torque wrench but still I never do oversight any bolts, try my best to keep them in specific range. Sparkplug gap to engine oil everything is fine. Even a loose leg/engine guard can produce low-massive vibration.

                      I ever hardly use a oil for max 2k km but even after 2k km still the oil level don’t decrease few millimeters and that means no way of leaking, the piston is intact and the engine is peaty much healthy.

                      As per your point without disassembling there have no way to check the smoothes of the piston movement, and I don’t want to disassemble it any way.

                      I’ve checked for any loose nut/bolts which are holding the engine into the frame but no luck, however one nut was a little loose longtime back but after correcting it still no improvement.

                      As per my knowledge an imbalance piston can cause the vibration, but generally happens for multiple piston engines. And another thing is imbalance or loose/incorrect fitted camshaft can cause low frequent vibration after/between a specific RPM range. But 1st I prefer to check all basic possibilities so why I need an experts advice.
                      Thanks for the helping hand, First i need help on Air Filter cleaning, Clutch wire adjustmetns[not plates], CArb tuning[i read the Carb tuning article from universal threads, if you wana tell in addition to that, Welcome ] for now its enough.

                      Seems that your bike is in good condition, i said to check piston because i assumed that you worked on it, but from your response there is no need i guess. Seems this puzzle is becoming tough to solve . Can you try re-tuning your carb as per the guidelines in XBHP[Universal Threads], and see the if you can find any difference , as other things seems correct from your response this would be first and simple thing to start with. I am no expert just trying my bit of things
                      on 4 wheels u feel the speed after a crash, 2 wheelers are much more advanced

                      Ananthagiri Trip

                      Kemmannagundi-Mulliyanagiri

                      Ooty trip

                      Tirumala-horsley Hills

                      Kudremukh

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Karthikeyan_M View Post
                        hi Thanks for the reply.

                        Answers:
                        1)yes i didnt exceed 40 kmph till first service ie 500kms.
                        2)engine oil is as recommended by HH.But i am nt sure about the fill quantity. can i check it? how?
                        i guess CBZ X doesn't have oil indicator like pulsars, may be you can take help of any mech to check with oil level . My guess would be a wrong tuned carb as your's is a new bike there would be no issues from other parts. Tune the carb once and take a long ride within the speed limits of your bike as per the guide.
                        on 4 wheels u feel the speed after a crash, 2 wheelers are much more advanced

                        Ananthagiri Trip

                        Kemmannagundi-Mulliyanagiri

                        Ooty trip

                        Tirumala-horsley Hills

                        Kudremukh

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Karthikeyan_M View Post
                          Hi All ! i own a cbz xreme from june 2010.

                          I finished my forst service.till now completd 1100 kms .

                          I am worried about My bike's Engine.

                          After reaching 45 kmph the bike starts vibrating a "urrrrrrrrrrr"
                          sound is been produced []

                          Is the cbz xtreme always produce so?Cant i get smooth ride like ridding in pulsar.

                          I can even feel the vibrations near the place where my lap would touch, even @ 30kmph.

                          And one more weird thing, some times,bike sound like screaming,like if i give a heavy acceleration even i totlally close the throttle.

                          Kindly provide me your valuable suggestions and experience.
                          No bro, CBZ is much smoother than pulsar bcoz it has the legendary Unicorn engine. i dont know wat amt of vibration is called a vibration bcoz it varies from person to person...so i wud say ride another bike like the pulsar and check if u can feel the vibrations..
                          My Unicorn also produced vibrations at 4K initially but now its fine, i think ur bike wil also get smoother as u cover the kms.
                          Gear shifts problem i thnk only practice will help u till then may be u can engage the clucth for a longer period while u change the gear and quickly reach 3-4th gear while riding...

                          I hope u warm up the engine early morning, dont giv sudden acceleration for abt 3-4kms...
                          Last edited by raghav_r; 08-13-2010, 03:28 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by pabi View Post
                            Thanks for the helping hand, First i need help on Air Filter cleaning, Clutch wire adjustmetns[not plates], CArb tuning[i read the Carb tuning article from universal threads, if you wana tell in addition to that, Welcome ] for now its enough.

                            Seems that your bike is in good condition, i said to check piston because i assumed that you worked on it, but from your response there is no need i guess. Seems this puzzle is becoming tough to solve . Can you try re-tuning your carb as per the guidelines in XBHP[Universal Threads], and see the if you can find any difference , as other things seems correct from your response this would be first and simple thing to start with. I am no expert just trying my bit of things
                            Speed is a joy but roads are not race track. Keep speed in your limit and always Drive safe...

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                            • #15
                              thks for the replies.
                              before a week. i tried screwing the carb screw anticlockwise which could give more fuel to the engine so the engine wont scream.
                              But still the same and also my mileage dropped.

                              I reached my second service schedule.I got to service my bike this weekend,n also ask them to tune again my carb freshly...

                              If at all my engine doesn't turns up good, like smooth.can i claim warranty n replace with new engine?

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