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  • #181
    Well that's indeed a great compliment! Thank You PSR Sir and OF Sir. I have my burnt RR semi conked off BCU, two RH switch sets and a whole lot of things from my as well as some other bikes.

    I never throw away stuff unless I really think it will be of no use.
    The only things I threw away were the worn out parts like old clutch plates,etc

    When I was installing the camshaft, I found out that the bolt on my bike was not going to fit, I got two bolts of the above part number. One I installed and don't know why I got the other one.
    The other one was lying around sealed.
    Glad that it was useful.

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    • #182
      Stock Figures

      My Pulsar 180 ug3 with Main jet 125

      Top speed
      113kmph (At full stock condition)

      Mileage,
      Avg = 45kmpl, Max = 56kmpl (At avg speed of 65kmph), Min = 27kmpl (At avg speed of 100+kmph)

      Acceleration
      0-60 kmph ~ 8 secs
      0-100 kmph ~ 17secs

      On top Gear, at
      4000rpm - 54kmph
      5000rpm - 68kmph
      6000rpm - 77kmph
      7000rpm - 93kmph
      8000rpm - 105kmph
      The time that has been noted here are approximate figures...

      I just bought the p220F,..
      Camshaft (DK101614, INR 409.78) & Allen Bolt (DK101386, INR 6.67)
      With VAT 12.5%, Net INR = 469
      From Jai Autos Adyar Pro-Biking Service centre, Chennai

      Installation Yet to be done...

      Pavan... when i enquired with the spares-in charge, he mentioned the DJ series to be that of 180's.. may be just the series differ..
      Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
      If you lack these two then DONT

      Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
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      . . .       alwayzaLive . . .

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      • #183
        P220F Camshaft

        Installed the P220F camshaft.

        The difference i observed is, throttle response and acceleration has improved.
        and an improvement of response in the mid range...
        And the bike is a bit more relaxed.

        Couldnt try more, will try it tomorrow...

        I didnt observe any increase in speed in each rpm.
        Sad that this didnt make the difference as expected.

        BUT THESE ARE MY OPINIONS RUNNING ON 125 MAIN JET, I SILL FEEL THAT ITZ FLOODING THE ENGINE. SO WILL TRY THE 117.5 STOCK MAIN JET TOO. I HOPE THIS WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY

        As of now I can recommend it to those who plan to go for the K&N.
        the Plus over k&n
        > relaxed increase in acceleration
        > price
        > no drawbacks
        Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
        If you lack these two then DONT

        Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
        __________________________________________

        . . .         alwayzaLive . . .

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        • #184
          Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
          Installed the P220F camshaft.

          The difference i observed is, throttle response and acceleration has improved.
          and an improvement of response in the mid range...
          And the bike is a bit more relaxed.

          Couldnt try more, will try it tomorrow...

          I didnt observe any increase in speed in each rpm.
          Sad that this didnt make the difference as expected.

          BUT THESE ARE MY OPINIONS RUNNING ON 125 MAIN JET, I SILL FEEL THAT ITZ FLOODING THE ENGINE. SO WILL TRY THE 117.5 STOCK MAIN JET TOO. I HOPE THIS WOULD MAKE ME HAPPY

          As of now I can recommend it to those who plan to go for the K&N.
          the Plus over k&n
          > relaxed increase in acceleration
          > price
          > no drawbacks
          The P220 F cam is a long duration cam and will give you better engine breathing WITHOUT up jetting...Stock jets and setup will work fine.
          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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          • #185
            @psr: ya buddy i changed to stock jet itz much fine now...

            Did the tuning... on richer side now but dont have any sputters at any condition...

            > experiencing a loss in power during taking off at below 1800rpm..
            > while accelerating through gears i feel a small drop in response in the range of 3000-4500rpm.
            >3rd & 4th gear acceleration above 4500rpm has improved, feels the crispness..
            > acceleration above 6500rpm both in top and 4th gear takes some time...

            the final gear speeds at all rpm is all the same.
            the top speed recorded now is 116kmph at 9000rpm (took some time reaching here).... couldnt try above that.

            Can the clutch be the problem, i have my tappets loose too.....
            or is it the tuning...
            Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
            If you lack these two then DONT

            Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
            __________________________________________

            . . .             alwayzaLive . . .

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            • #186
              give to authorised bajaj service station may be your clutch plates are gone.ore some problem with engine they can tell you better.
              Last edited by RhythmRana99; 04-23-2011, 12:02 AM.
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              • #187
                My friends using 125 main jet of karizma got from hero honda agency on their p150,p180ug3,p180ug4. all are happy redline the bike no problems. they are using K'N RC1060.
                We xbhpians pledge to wear helmet while riding

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                • #188
                  RythmRana99
                  HI! dude ..Am now running on stock filters, i sold my k&n, now everything except the camshaft is stock...
                  Can loose tappets cause this problem...?

                  and is the 220's clutch a direct fit....? Should i go for the 220's clutch & pressure plates or the bell too?
                  Last edited by ARNandal; 04-23-2011, 01:06 AM.
                  Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
                  If you lack these two then DONT

                  Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
                  __________________________________________

                  . . .                   alwayzaLive . . .

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                  • #189
                    why do you want to change the clutch. It should be fine if you could achieve 116 kmph.

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                    • #190
                      Originally posted by ARNandal View Post
                      @psr: ya buddy i changed to stock jet itz much fine now...

                      Did the tuning... on richer side now but dont have any sputters at any condition...

                      > experiencing a loss in power during taking off at below 1800rpm..
                      > while accelerating through gears i feel a small drop in response in the range of 3000-4500rpm.
                      >3rd & 4th gear acceleration above 4500rpm has improved, feels the crispness..
                      > acceleration above 6500rpm both in top and 4th gear takes some time...

                      the final gear speeds at all rpm is all the same.
                      the top speed recorded now is 116kmph at 9000rpm (took some time reaching here).... couldnt try above that.

                      Can the clutch be the problem, i have my tappets loose too.....
                      or is it the tuning...
                      Off the block acceleration is dependent on the pilot jet and AFR screw till 2,500 to 3,000RPM. After that till 5K it is the needle position ,and after that till red lining it is the combination of air filter breathing and main jet ...Clogged or porous air filter will make the AFR either rich or lean at top end, leading to either spluttering or lack of power..So ride the bike a few times to locate the specific RPMs where you face reduction in performance, and take necessary steps to correct.
                      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                      • #191
                        From what I understand he has fitted p220f cams which are both long duration and higher lift cams. Some loss of low and mid range is to be expected.

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                        • #192
                          Originally posted by born2slow View Post
                          From what I understand he has fitted p220f cams which are both long duration and higher lift cams. Some loss of low and mid range is to be expected.
                          You are half right. They are long duration but not high lift. Lobe width is more but height is same so longer duration but no highlift.
                          Only a biker knows why a dog sticks his head out of a car window.

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                          • #193
                            Yes there is no difference in valve height. The cam only changes valve timing and hence valve overlap.
                            @ARNadal: Install everything stock and just the cam and run the bike. You have to get better performance. Else either your clutch plates are at fault or maybe you got the wrong camshaft.
                            Also, since you are keeping gearing stock, you will not see more speed at any RPM than you used to see before.
                            The difference the camshaft will make is the time required to hit the redline. The needle just flies.
                            Last edited by pavanchirmade; 04-24-2011, 05:57 PM.

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                            • #194
                              @born2slow: it was for better power delivery...

                              @psr...
                              Now after tuning again i dont feel the loss... but the pilot jet as u said would need a look...
                              Now itz taking time between 8000rpm and 9000rpm n 9k is a dead end... before it used to do 10k... is it the main jet now? Air filter is a new one 500kms old...

                              I used to get 113kmph at 10k before, now itz at 8.8k.
                              @Wanted DoA: +1
                              @pavan: dude... am getting drastic mileage.. 33kmpl average in place of 45kmpl...!!!
                              needle just flies :O mine doesnt, i do feel a diffrence in the throttle response... your are also running on k&N may be thats what differs... i just got it sold...
                              And dude how is your mileage...???
                              am running rich but needs it gets stuck at 8500rpm and hesitates...n 9k is a hault. when i tightened 1.5 rotations it went n haulted at 8k. now i will have to try loosing it to 2.5 rotations... Oh! what will be my mileage then???!!

                              + psr please look into it..
                              Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
                              If you lack these two then DONT

                              Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
                              __________________________________________

                              . . .                               alwayzaLive . . .

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                              • #195
                                Pavan suggest me a gearing buddy.. now itz 15/44 will 16/44 or 16/47 give me gud top and non-negotiated acceleration?
                                Presence of MIND and self CONFIDENCE is the primary aspect You need to be on road, not what brand your riding gears are.
                                If you lack these two then DONT

                                Feel the pleasure of Ultimate Biking
                                __________________________________________

                                . . .                                 alwayzaLive . . .

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