You are correct. Good quality projectors do have very even spread of light. I love the manner how they illuminate the road. Although, one has to take into account other parameters like cost, watts, size and availability of particular temperature bulbs.

I am using both normal halogen (100 w) and HID projectors (35 w). I think both are more or less the same as far as lumen is concern. The 100w halogens light up the road far far better than the projectors, because the projectors are using 6000k bulbs. 6000k looks nice, but its more show than go. In rain, its downright miserable. I have searched for 4100k or lower bulbs for so long, I gave up. Don't know why no one keeps them. Seems only way I can source them is to import them. Or one can upgrade to 60+w HID set up. But his is an expensive proposal as I have to purchase the ballast as well and not only bulbs.

Coming to size. I have used both fogs and projectors in various size. Size does matter. Bigger, more light.

i remember one guy on xbhp had installed a set of hella micro de on his bike. anybody know him???

anybody has contact details of navnish. is he still active on xbhp. is he still selling hids ??

@ Prince - I think Bulleteers will be able to help you better. There are soem who have installed fog/aux lamps on the crash guard or elsewhere and AFAIK they are mostly H3 55W Halogens.

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Hi everyone on here.. this may be a stagnant thread however still posting.

I have a 200 NS (3K kms old) on a 12V 9AH battery system and am on the lookout for a set of aux riding lights. I do not want to just go in for a lamp without knowing how it would affect the battery since i do not want to risk the warranty of the battery.

Could someone please guide me to a set of aux riding lights with a decent illumination ?
How much of wattage would be NS be able to handle ?
Are LEDs better than H3 ones ? if yes, why so ?

I consulted someone on here and he told me that the NS would only be able to generate as much power for a 35W LED aux light ??? is it true ? If the wattage of 18W spot LEDs exceeds by 1W would it make a difference ?

Guys .. need help.. plz review this thread

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Need your help guys !

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Check the ownership thread bro. Some people use 100/90w bulbs without any problem.. So the ns should be able to support 40-50w when running. Try the 100/90w bulb first and if unsatisfied, go for aux bro.

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for 100/90 else 110/100 a bigger battery and seperate thicker wiring will be needed.
needless to say a ceramic holder. else you will be looking at molten wiring and much more damage with prolonged usage.

rather opt for low power led spot/spread beams 10/12 watts outputting 1100-1200 lumens

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I'm sorry for posting a reply so late, I haven't frequented here for about 2 years due to personal reason, I used to be pretty active in the lighting and Pulsar 200NS thread.

Now, back to topic, AFAIK P200NS comes with 12v 8AH VRLA battery, I have been away from motorcycles for a long time though, so things could change in the new batch of P200NS.

H3 fog lamps are not useful as they will consume a lot of power (55 watt per lamp, so a pair would consume 110 watt), a 55w H3 bulb generates 1450 lumen of light so the combined output would be 2900 lumen. The NS would not be able to take such power load and the battery would die.

I suggest you to get a pair or LED fog lamps in the range of 20 watt, the combined load would be 40 watt, which the NS would easily sustain. A good pair of LED fog lamps would cost around 3000 rupees (stay away from crappy Chinese LED fog lamps sold on ebay or other ecommerce sites), make sure the color temperature of the LEDs are around 4300K, otherwise you'll have problem during rains of fog as 5000K or "warm white" in which LEDs are commonly available can't penetrate fogs well.

If you want, you can convert the turn signals to LED to lower power usage, install the turn signals from KTM Duke 200/390. Someone has done it before and posted it on the P200NS ownership thread.

If I were you, I'd just install a ceramic holder and a relay and put in a 90/100 halogen.

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Thats a whole lot of useful info dude. Thanks for shedding light. Yup I am getting myself 2 X 15 W CREE LED spot lamps (4100K) which i would be fixing on the crash guard and then using a wee bit of the left over for my USB Charger.

hmmmmmm Duke turn signals... u mean the entire set or just the LEDs ?

Do you happen to know the power output of the NS generator ? I got the watt usage through the manual but Bajaj has smartly omitted the amount of current the generator creates ... KTM has it listed for its alternator then y not NS ? oh well.. Bajaj i guess

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CREE just makes the LED modules, other companies make the housing and installs the module in it, CREE does a lot of "binning" as just like semiconductor production, you get a lot of duds while manufacturing LED modules. So make sure the company making your fog lamps is reputable so they are more likely to conform to the design guidelines released by CREE (You can get the CAD files on CREE website).

For your fog lamps, expect around 800 bulb lumen, actual torch lumen (the amount of light you actually get) would be around 700 lumen, disregard whatever is written on the packaging, some companies tend to write insane amount of light like 1500 lumen per lamp.

You should be getting around 1400 lumen out of your fog lamps for 30 watts.

About the turn signals, you will have to buy the complete set of turn signals and the turn signal flasher too. Also convert your pilot lamps and rear license plate lamp to LEDs, you'll save around 6 watt of energy.

I once tried checking the load with a variable load tester and found that the output of the 200NS stator is around 210 watt at 6K RPM, I might have forgotten the exact number though, it was 2 years ago. Even the service manual does not state the amount of power generated by the stator, also in the service manual, they show the stator coil of P180, not that of P200NS, I was confused at this, so I went to the dealership and inquired about the stator coil to take a look at it.

Oh, I almost forgot! Do not drill holes in the crash guard to install the lamps, get a proper clamp made.

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Bro ure awesome !!!

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Thank you

Please link me to the fog lamps you're purchasing, I could take a look at them. BTW I just had a puncture, on my foot :P

Stepped on a nail and it pierced my foot through my shoes.

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Sure will do that.. Once i test em out I would be able to better judge if theyre worth recommending... Do you carry a puncture kit with you ? Take cre bro and wish you a speedy recovery !!

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Hi Cleaner, Got the lamps and have them installed on my NS I will not say that they're the best out there but they are doing the job pretty well for me. Please see pictures below. They're a bit darker than the actual scenario ... thanks to my effed up phone cam I easily ride around with them w/o the headlamps on.

Without Lamps



With Lamps (they need to be aligned properly for which i am not being able to take the time out )

Day light pics of lamp







The fog lamps have been clamped to the crash bar with rubber lining to prevent marks and pressure on the bar. Custom harness made and used with 12V automotive relay and 10A fuse, although I am wondering if 10A is a bit too much / or too less ... I am confused. I have not given the the switch for the same on the handlebar, owing to the universal habit of Indians of fiddling with other peoples bikes and if they mess up and leave the switch on .. I am dead ! the only drawback of this setup is that i would need to stop to either switch on or switch off the lamps. Guess that's a small price to pay for not being stranded with no battery back up.

IP67 USB Charger attached to handlebar for charging needs



USB charger has been connected to ignition and not the battery so it would technically work only when the ignition is on and hence did not feel the need for a switch there. (unnecessary risk of forgetting to turn the switch off)

Apologies for the dirt on the bike.. Just got back from Jaipur and damn this bike is fun !

Any comments and suggestions would be highly welcomed. Any folks in Gurgaon know of any good quality metal workers ? need to get a saddle bag support made to mitigate the risk of the saddles touching the tyres...


Hey bro.. hows your foot doing btw ? If you need the contact details for this guy PM me I will send it across to you.

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Nice work on the electrical mods, I am amazed by the quality of the work. I do have a to say a few things about it though, the fist thing as you have noticed is the fuse, a 10 amp fuse is completely useless, its rating is too high to be useful in your case, where the load is highly unlikely to reach 3 amps, I'd suggest you to replace the 10 amps fuse with a 3 amps Mini fuse.

About the issues with fog lamp switch, you can do two things, you can run the negative wire through the ignition and then add a switch so that it only lights up when the ignition is on. Another thing that can be done is that, you can connect it to the headlamp relay located under the seat, it prevents the headlamp coming on without the engine running. So you could wire it up there and add a switch, so it would only light up if the engine is running. This would solve the issue of people fiddling with your bike and draining the battery.

I hope the custom wiring harness was made with proper gauge of wires and waterproof 1/4" spade connectors were used.

My foot is good now, I had some fun days lying on the bed, felt like a king I'd surely PM you for his details, whenever I need such work done.