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  • #31
    The 2 bottles of 300V (5W 40) i used on my Xtreme for 8000KMs leaked too.It used to leak for a few days then stop i will just wipe that oil after a couple of days then it wont happen again is this what you guys say as "leaking" in pulsar or does pulsars leak motul so much that one can see the oil level drop very clearly .
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    • #32
      well... all lubricants needs to reach a certain operating temperature before the bike is used... but the problem with most people in this part of the world is we dont warm up our bike before riding... just get out of the garage and start revving down the tiny road... since engine oil is heavier at lower temperature below operating temperature and synthetic oil takes even longer to reach the operating temperature it causes damage to the engine, mostly the pistons... if you have the patience to wait for an hour or so to warm up the engine go ahead with synthetic oil lol... or else sticking to regular engine oil is better...

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      • #33
        Originally posted by SiLENT RiDER View Post
        i think it depends on your riding style...if you rip your bike...engine oil level will go down very fast...and you need to top up more frequently
        Certainly not, if you use your oil for the recommended period of Kms it should never come down whether you rip or drive sanely.

        For the record sake I used Motul FS on 62k kms old engine & my CBZ Classic runs more rough than new gen Pulsars beyond 60kmph.

        I have done close to 500kms in a span of 13hours cruising 85kmph all the time but yet their was not even a single drop of oil
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        • #34
          Originally posted by gtr View Post
          if you have the patience to wait for an hour or so to warm up the engine go ahead with synthetic oil lol... or else sticking to regular engine oil is better...
          You have understood it the other way round. Actually, fully synthetic oils flow more freely during cold starts than mineral oils. That is why synthetic oils are recommended for start-stop usage. Synthetic oils are helpful if you do not have the habit of warming up the bike in the morning. Also, 2 minutes of idling is enough to get the oil flowing properly.

          My bike started leaking oil(Activ4T, 30004T, SuperSwift) from the clutch cover side after the clutch cover gasket was changed. So I'm sure that an ill-fitting/inferior quality gasket is the culprit for the leak.
          Last edited by hyper; 02-27-2010, 03:33 AM.

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          • #35
            i guess everyone studied viscosity of fluid when they were kids...
            viscosity of fluid decreases with increase in temperature and flow rate increases with decrease in viscosity...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by hyper View Post
              You have understood it the other way round. Actually, fully synthetic oils flow more freely during cold starts than mineral oils. That is why synthetic oils are recommended for start-stop usage. Synthetic oils are helpful if you do not have the habit of warming up the bike in the morning. Also, 2 minutes of idling is enough to get the oil flowing properly.
              +1. Let me also add that synthetic have greater tolerance to heat than mineral, Hence will perform better even when it get hot.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by gtr View Post
                i guess everyone studied viscosity of fluid when they were kids...
                viscosity of fluid decreases with increase in temperature and flow rate increases with decrease in viscosity...
                Yes I agree. But that's the whole point of using a synthetic oil. It promises to be more free flowing at room temperatures than mineral oils which means it gets into the moving parts faster and reduces damage during start up.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by hyper View Post
                  Yes I agree. But that's the whole point of using a synthetic oil. It promises to be more free flowing at room temperatures than mineral oils which means it gets into the moving parts faster and reduces damage during start up.
                  well... bikes dont operate at room temperatures...
                  and to reach the operating temperature for synthetic oil you will have to wait longer... if you warm it up to the operating temperature, its really good for the bike if you dont its not worth it...

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by gtr View Post
                    well... bikes dont operate at room temperatures...
                    and to reach the operating temperature for synthetic oil you will have to wait longer... if you warm it up to the operating temperature, its really good for the bike if you dont its not worth it...
                    The bike will be at room temperature when it has not run for more than 4 hours right? That is when synthetic oil makes a difference.

                    And, there is no fact in saying that using synthetic oil increases the time taken to reach operating temprature.

                    Read more here: Synthetic oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by hyper View Post
                      The bike will be at room temperature when it has not run for more than 4 hours right? That is when synthetic oil makes a difference.

                      And, there is no fact in saying that using synthetic oil increases the time taken to reach operating temprature.

                      Read more here: Synthetic oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                      yep the bike will probably be at room temperature after a 4 hour gap...
                      BUT... its not a good thing to ride the bike at room temperature... thats what i have been trying to say...
                      i am talking from experience... not from what i ve read over the internet or what the local mechanic said... and most of the time what we read from foreign forums doesn't apply here because of the difference in temperature, road condition, quality of gasoline and lube etc etc...
                      just my 2 cents...

                      from wikipedia
                      synthetic oil is "worth considering for extreme driving conditions: high ambient temperatures and high engine load, or very cold temperatures."
                      Last edited by gtr; 03-19-2010, 01:11 AM.

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                      • #41
                        Hi
                        Can anyone please post the pointers for Gulf oil dealers in Bangalore Preferably in east

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                        • #42
                          Re: Synthetic Oil for Pulsar 150 DTSi

                          Originally posted by zayn View Post
                          As I earlier said Pulsars engine are not meant for Synthetic oils,Its way of throwing money.
                          Pulsar consumes oil when riding at 90-100 km/h
                          engine leaks

                          I am using Motul 3000+ 15W50 in my 150 and this oil is awesome,till date used it for 1200kms in 2 days no gear slips and kind of problem
                          better is to use Motul Semi Synthetic has good Semi Synthetic oils
                          That is not true!!! Not true at all... If your bike is drinking oil then its leaking rings... I've P220 DTSi and successfully completed 5K and have been riding hard since the very moment, I got the bike... Used Motoman break in... one tip for every one with any engine, doesn't matters, bike/car or anything... when you start your engine after a night or after the engine has gone cold, LET IT IDLE for 3 - 5 mins atleast... Then start moving off slowly and keep doing that till 5 - 10 kms... Then after you can rip the engine to the extreme... and before switching the engine off wait for RPM to settle. But, unfortunately most of us forget about all of it due to excessively fast Life Style... Please do note that, these are my personal thoughts and experiences.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Synthetic Oil for Pulsar 150 DTSi

                            Originally posted by forceedge View Post
                            If your bike is drinking oil then its leaking rings...
                            when you start your engine after a night or after the engine has gone cold, LET IT IDLE for 3 - 5 mins atleast...
                            I agree on those points. But I feel idling for 3-5minutes is a little too much. When you want to leave to office or somewhere and you keep looking at it for 3-5mins. Idling for 45secs to a minute without throttling/high RPMs should do good and build enough oil pressure, oil circulation internally and of course warm up. And as you start riding it the ideal operating temperature would be reached within the next couple of minutes.
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                            • #44
                              Re: Synthetic Oil for Pulsar 150 DTSi

                              Originally posted by petrolhead_chn View Post
                              I agree on those points. But I feel idling for 3-5minutes is a little too much. When you want to leave to office or somewhere and you keep looking at it for 3-5mins. Idling for 45secs to a minute without throttling/high RPMs should do good and build enough oil pressure, oil circulation internally and of course warm up. And as you start riding it the ideal operating temperature would be reached within the next couple of minutes.
                              That is the way I prefer it... In turn, I get smoother gears at the start... and while it idles, I pack up my bag at that time, dust the bike... etc etc...
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                              • #45
                                Re: Synthetic Oil for Pulsar 150 DTSi

                                Originally posted by forceedge View Post
                                That is the way I prefer it... In turn, I get smoother gears at the start... and while it idles, I pack up my bag at that time, dust the bike... etc etc...
                                Good for you in that case...
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