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  • Shreeni0403
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    Dr. Its true that it gives more of round. And probably bit of intensity is lost. But don't u think ur becoming too much greedy Andhe ho kya

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  • NANOtechnology
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    I'll upload the pics soon doc.
    i understand what you are trying to say...

    even i agree, that with halogen, its more focused on a smaller part, but with HID, its much more spread, still does very well doc.
    it is still better and goes very long and BRIGHT.
    i really don't think 2 of them is needed anyways.

    my low beam is put to shame...
    its been raining very heavily, i should find a ok ok dry patch and pics will follow.

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  • drvmtm
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    you guys got me all wrong,i never said p 220s high beam reflector is bad.its just that the pattern changes.
    when we use a halogen bulb in p 220 high beam reflector,it produces a nice rectangular light,but the scenario changes when we put hid in them,it produces more or less round light which is at least twice bigger in diameter then halo,this is why the intensity is lost a bit.i tried to focus it but the hid wanted to go a bit in which was not possible in full plastic body reflector.

    please prove me wrong nano,i will be the most happiest person .may be my reflector of p 220s one is a bit much damaged and thus producing this result,may be a new one will produce good result.

    what i felt that a properly focussed hid in a dcm toyota 5.3/4 inch seal beam with hid produces exactly rectangular light output,just like a stock p 220s highbeam in halo,but as this is hid the intensity is tooooo high and can work for 1-1.5 kms straight as a high beam.

    nano if you are happy with p 220s high with hid please put up pics of its throw on a wall eg... like place the bike 5-8 feet from a wall ,and take the pic.

    if this works we have the ans for high beam as an aux set up also..
    we can just stick the p 220s reflector in a metal/platic body spot lamps and use it as a high beam ,

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  • Shreeni0403
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    Congrats Nano
    Yes even I don't agree with Doky in this point. P220's high beam lens is a lethal weapon with HID's in them. The throw is straight like SEARCH LIGHT. No loss of light. Just point it exactly where you want. And one more thing, smaller the reflector size, higher the glare. Try a HID in small Autopal Spot light, they are lasers.

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  • NANOtechnology
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    i got my HID HIGH BEAM installed, and guys.......
    you have seen nothing yet.....

    it took me almost the whole day to do it and i reached home right now...
    i will prove you wrong DOC, p220's high beam with hid is lethal.
    it puts my low beam to shame, trust me.

    I'll upload the pics soon, maybe tomorrow

    i came home in very very heavy rain and light didn't reflect at all of the high beam.

    1 more thing that i came across was that the light of the projector is not good for rains, as it gets reflected a lot and barely anything can be seen on the road.
    i believe the lens in my projector is polarized as i know some projectors have polarized lens.

    but glare of high beam is unbearable... (please don't kill me sajit)

    NOTE:-
    i checked the amps with both the beams ON, and at Higher revs its -2.3 amps
    i honked also with both beams on and it sounded like a scooty... (very dim)

    when i was riding with it at heavy rains (which means slow), all the time with both beams slowly my horn started honking louder !!!

    was the battery getting charged?
    that's strange with -2.3 amps, but I'll follow an old school method and use both ON for some days.... and realize the condition of the battery...

    wait patiently for the pics guys...

    and THANKS to NAVNISH for sending me a one of a kind RELAY which has a fuse in the wiring and its direct plug and play, although it took me a very long time to get it working right, as my low beam wire/ high beam wire in the OEM headlight socket is reversed...

    a very special thanks to all of you guys who made a poor soul, a lighting maniac today.

    and thanks a lot for appreciating my pics guys...
    it would have never been possible without you all.

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  • abhijeet080808
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    @Nano - Nice pics! Enjoy the new power!

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  • drvmtm
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    my modification done,but not at all happy with it,the problem is with the high beam,
    low beam is toooooooo good,but the high beam is really not at all up to my standerds,will revert back to my previous setting within few days....

    well few things i learned,,

    nothing can beat a round seal beam be it a multisurface one,be it a old amby type size 5.3/4 inch and above if properly focused on high beam,NOT EVEN A P 220 S HIGH BEAM,YES!!

    for low beam the skoda projector what is nano is using is THE BEST,a p 220 s one is half the spread if compared to skoda but the intensity is a bit high in p 220s one.if the shed of p 220s can be removed it can almost work as an high beam,the concentration of light is a bit high in the center where in case of skodas one its equal.
    if anyone needs good high beam on high ways ,please insist on 2 light sources as minimum,be it halogen,be it hids,2 is minimum,a single 90/100 is ok but the peripheral vision reduces a bit with 90/100 and thats a bit risky if the bike is doing 100+kmph on highway.

    the stock reflector of pulsar 150/180/200/220 naked is good only if its used with halogens,it can take heat up to 55/60 halogen bulbs,not more then that,a better and cheaper option is avl if someone needs to use higher watt halogen bulb or want a better light spread also dont want to get rid of the fairing..
    a dcm toyota sealbeam 5.3/4 inch is direct fit inside the ug2-ug3 dome,yes,just push it back all the way in ,the leveling is done as default is well enough for city and highway ride.
    Last edited by drvmtm; 08-24-2010, 11:12 PM.

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  • drvmtm
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    Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
    Thanks Shreeni for taking the time out to click some pictures & post it.

    Now I am really tempted to go for a HID setup.



    Vishal
    vishal,change the seal beam you have now to aglass one and use a bixenon hid 4300k,you will be happy bro,.

    in my scorpio i am using one hid in a glass sealbeam and its more then enough even better then the stock lights,which are pretty good,its a scorp refresh mhawk.
    there is a big chance you dont have to use hellas,the sealbeam(glass one) are that good.

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  • imjoshee
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    Thanks Shreeni for taking the time out to click some pictures & post it.

    Now I am really tempted to go for a HID setup.



    Vishal

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  • Shreeni0403
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    Originally posted by pavanchirmade View Post
    Too much bling bling...get rid of those Blue LEDs and get white LED strip like the one seen in the Audis.
    + 10000 to that... Dr. use white....


    Nano - Too good pictures there, showing the cut off line of projector everything in detail Good Luck for further experiments

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  • pavanchirmade
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    Too much bling bling...get rid of those Blue LEDs and get white LED strip like the one seen in the Audis.

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  • drvmtm
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    wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
    too good nano..........

    here is my project....

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  • NANOtechnology
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    here they come..

    hello guys.
    i know that you may not be so interested or curious to see my working setup, but still i was dying to show it to all of you.

    the bad part was that it rained before i clicked the pic, hence i didn't head to a highway, i clicked it just inside my complex.

    please don't mind the locality, and the mess around here...


    note:- all the pictures are clicked with engine OFF, to avoid vibrations, still battery didn't show any sign of dying..
    and all the images are clicked WITHOUT flash...


    this is my console, with lights off..







    led's in the console in action....
    and yes, see the scatter of HID inside which enlightens all the console.
    its for my personal viewing pleasure, angel eye for console..






    this was the dark patch...






    low beam switched on, camera not aligned properly, but notice the sides get more light (due to the holes in projector) which gives lesser light in the center.







    low beam in action.. (full blown)







    low+high beam in action
    Hid low and halo high...





    this is to show you guys the spread.
    bike is stable at one place and 2 pics clicked on either sides.








    another example of spread.
    bike is kept at side stand... with handle tilted sideways.
    and i clicked sideways at the reflector level only, notice the reflector glass...
    i bet its 170 degree spread.






    see towards it mates..
    this is above cut off level.
    it much lesser if seen in flesh, very comfortable to look at,



    please ignore that stupid leakage on top of the projector..
    its silicon layer, painted over...

    i know it looks damm ugly, even when off, but output is good i believe..


    now tell me....
    is there anybody here who can beat this ??????

    just kidding mates....
    you guys are Gods of lighting with better setups too.

    and yes high beam hid will arrive tomorrow, so will upload then in action too...

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  • Shreeni0403
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    Originally posted by imjoshee View Post
    Shreeni it would be great if you could post some pictures of the same. It will give me a better idea.
    Taped over the rubber for extra safety but removed it to click snap




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  • NANOtechnology
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    wow navnish..
    amazing spread.

    i would have bought a pair if i had a car battery installed .
    and would have put in at crash guard.

    @ everybody.

    good news fellas, today it didn't rain all day, and the roads are nice and dry..
    I'll go to click some beam spread pics and will upload maybe by midnight.
    i rode now for 10 mins to buy a loaf of bread, and i couldn't believe my eyes...

    my high beam HID will arrive tomorrow, so will show you that when it comes..

    but don't forget to watch this space tonight.

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