Hey doc they are like projectors. The light spread is good and its got a cut line.

Get it sometime lets take some good pics

These don't come with ballast . The ones which come with the ballast cost 28k. and that too they are not internal . They are the same normal ballasts what they sell with it . They were good but too expensive.

These are totally worth it . the mounting bracket is neat and the casing is sturdy.
The light spread is like this . Same as the p220s low beam. But its brighter then the p220s projector

Bugger its a 100CC motorcycle
And i haven't kept the HID permanently fixed on it. I ve fixed it so that I can use only when I hit the highways or when needed. I will drop in to ur place with that setup enjoy

And dude, those lights come with internal ballast or do they need external ballast ? I ve saw couple of Hella's which doesn't need external ballast. And 5400rs for a pair doesn't sound very high.

are these projectors?

@ Shreeni your taking about your moped ? You fixed the hid on that ?? Please post some pics man let the world know what a nut you are :P

@imjoshee you can fix a hid on the hellas . They really work well.


Guys update from my side.
Got my hands on a hella micro DE. Fixed a h3c hid bulb on it and was very very very happy about the light output. The beam spread is more like the 220s low beam but its too brigh.

Hella micro de costs 5400/- for a pair. And its totally worth it .It comes with a mounting bracket screws etc..



Will post some pics tonight This setup will work out expensive but i feel its totally worth it as the quality of the Micro De is excellent . This should work as a good option for aux light for any bike . Working on a fixture so that it will be plug and play.

Bro, I shall post the pics by tonight.

For a sealed beam you can go with H4 bi-xe or single beam HID. And should be a direct fit. Our seal beam master, Dr. can throw loads of canon lights

@Nano - Will post soon

Thanks to all for giving your valuable suggestions.

Shreeni it would be great if you could post some pictures of the same. It will give me a better idea.

@Others : I have 2 original Hella round sealbeam(H4 type). I had put them on my Sumo. I was using a 90/100w Halo and the casing used was of Bullet. I still have them with me. Can I use one of these to install a H4 HID?


Vishal

@ shreeni..
dude please post a pic of your bixenon (single tube).
i want to see high and low difference as how does it look like.

please please please...

@ lockhrt999

dude.
your wrong again.
moving bulbs cannot be attached inside a projector.
as i said earlier, the only way high and low is achieved in case of a PROJECTOR is with the help of a shield.
the shield moves up and down.
bulb remains at the same place.

For the Hella on Fiero. I have put 4300K H3 HID of Navnish into Neolite yellow light. I had to cut the rear black part a bit as the length of bulb is more but that isn't a problem bcz the HID bulb comes with a rubber breeding which easily avoids seepage of water.

A projector sure sucks at high beam. And the seal beam looks weird because it doesn't have the casing behind it. Imagine a pulsar classic headlight. It is enclosed in the black body which is mounted on the fork. The headlight minus the black body is called the sealbeam.

Wow somebody make this sticky.
Sealbeam looks very weird...no-no from me
What's approx cost of HID kit + bi xenon projector ?
Am I suppose to PM anyone ?
many are saying that projector sucks at high beam so here's an idea from me : if we use moving H4 HID with bi xenon projector, on high beam it will focus better meaning smaller and concentrated as the bulb moves back

even i was very confused as how things work, what means what and so on.
let me give you a good explanation.

typically HID is a single beam bulb.
it looks like this.



now there's one problem in HID.
it can't be turned off/on again and again, + it takes a while to glow to full intensity.
so if you notice the bulb there's a Xenon gas inside which makes the bulb glow, it doesn't have any filament.

if we see our normal Halogen bulbs, it has 2 filaments.
it is H4.

technically H4 means Dual beam.
but understand this, that in HID, you cannot have Dual xenon tanks in the same bulb, to glow when you want, so an H4 bulb is like this.



you can see the pic, where's it is compared to a standard halogen bulb.
in this H4, the bulb moves up and down with the help of an electromagnet, when you want high beam or low beam.

a seal-beam is reflector.

if someone says round seal-beam means that its a round reflector. Reflector with a glass on top is called a seal-beam.

this is a seal beam


if there's a single HID bulb, it needs a single ballast.
ballast is the power house on the xenon bulb.

this is a ballast.




now if you read the writings on the ballast, you'll realize that all it does is normalizes the voltage and the current to send in the bulb.

if you have an H4 bulb, it will have a single ballast only.

now let me clarify the projector part.

bixenon projectors are completely different game.
if you don't know, there's a Shield inside a projector to keep the beam low, in case of Bi-xenon projectors this shield moves up and down, not the bulb.

you can see sajit's thread in the desi bikes section as how he installed a Bixenon projector on his pulsar.

if there's any more doubts, keep posting, and let everybody know too.

of course it would be 4300k...I don't like blue light like 8000k...it's very disgusting

idea dropped so I guess low hid projector + high hid is also not possible

Thanks for your valuable opinion...
My total riding consists 30% night riding...of course I've been avoiding touring because I can't see any damn light falling on the road in front of the bike while tackling glares of on coming vehicles who get doubled when wearing helmet.
so options remain :
1. H4 HID with projector
2. -----''------ sealbeam
3. 55/60W halogen as temporary solution if I couldn't afford HID.

What is sealbeam? Could you post a picture here from internet ?
There's a guy on ebay selling h4 hid conversion kit for bikes for 1.5k
Also one more thing when we say HID kit does it mean it consists 2 bulb, 2 ballasts always ?
How much it will cost for HID kit with projector ?

any bulb above 35w will pull up great amount of battery as you know.
but coil rewinding on FULL DC bike might be a very very tricky affair.
as much as i know, DC bikes have 3 phase coils.
i could be wrong.

considering High beam Halo and Low Beam Hid, how will you fit 2 bulbs ??
like i did??

its costly as well as tooooooo much of efforts consuming.
and getting it Right is really a very herculean task.
keeping it in the same way for days in the middle of heavy rains, is even more difficult.
but with efforts and patience it can be achieved

if you go for bi-xenon Hid 55w !!
its again battery consuming, as its 55w and frankly speaking you don't need 55w Hid at all.
if you see a very well focused 35w Hid in flesh, it can beat any car headlight mate.
trust me.
my eyes almost popped out when i saw my hid glowing for the very first time.

as you own a 180, the stock reflector will give a lot of glares.
I've seen chaps here using Hid's on stock reflectors and its $#!*, trust me.

the focus is terrible and its a pain if to see the road if someone is behind and your RVM shows you the chap's setup.

forget the glare if someone is coming towards you.

PLEASE don't be such a pain on the roads with HID's on stock reflector.

if projector is not liked, go for a round Sealbeam instead of stock reflector.
beam is focused properly and glares are also minimum.

in my own opinion, i recommend you to stay away from 100w or even 55w halo bulbs.
55w will give better light but the amount of juice it pulls from the battery for that ratio of light is not good.

as far as money is concerned,
you already saved roughly 3.5 grand.
as you Don't need to buy an ape rr + 9 amp battery + single phase coil winding with 19 gauge wire.

a lot of money is already saved.
see what you feel is right.
and do what you find is feasible.

try not to fit HID's in stock reflector (please).

For cost effective solutions go for 90/100 halogen in the ambassador round headlamp with proper rewinding and ape RR. If you want the best solution, go for two HIDs but strictly 4300k

After reading a lot I think following option are viable on my stock p180 ug4 full DC with 9ah battery.
I want better illumination from most cost effective solution.
Please tell me if I'm missing anything.

1. 55/60W halogen
2. 90/100W halogen + appropriate reflector + coil winding thing
3. (low beam) HID + (high beam) halogen
4. an H4 bi-xenon HID 35W
5. ---------''-------- 55W

It would be very helpful if I could get approx expenditure for each option.
Thanks a ton