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[MENTION=95957]Bismaya[/MENTION], bro 100cc bikes have got catcon from bs3/2010 onwards. I am speaking of bs2 splendor and not cd100. Old Splendor crosses 100 while it runs on a compression ratio of just 8.8:1.

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Man, it's a public forum and I can post my knowledge. You can get all the info on the websites of the respective manufacturers. There a new website called hgpmart.com. There it is clearly mentioned that non-cat mufflers were used for 100cc bikes until 2009. There's a whooping 3000rs difference in the price of catcon and non cat mufflers. Bs3 norms were introduced in 2010 only.

Regarding cbz, I only said that cbzX is faster than classic cbz.

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This. My dad's 2000 CD-100SS (sold) came with a Cat Exhaust. His 1994 CD-100 retains a non-cat till date. AFAIK, only some of the 2000 Splendors and earlier models came with non-cat. Post BS2 and henceforth, all are cat models having 9:1 ratio. Post 2010 or so, they bumped the same 100cc engine to produce 8.24bhp and increased compression by 0.9 making it 9.9:1. This post 2010 engine at first was offered on Splendor and Passion Pro and now being offered on all 100cc Hero bikes. Only difference is the BSIV adjustments. The top speed thing isn't related to engine itself. It's about the true console indications. You can use a non contact type speed gauge to measure it in actual. 80kmph is the highest this engine will make before stressing off like hell. The old meters showed this as 90km/hr. But the true top speed has been always around 80. Power delivery has been tampered with BSIII bikes and tuning has been adjusted. Post BSII, lighter pistons were used, affecting with the insane torque which people mistake for more power. Initial is the only good thing about old HH bikes.

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who asked you anything about compression ratios anyway, and i dont know where you get your information from , the post 2000 hero hondas came with cats, i can vividly remember a small green sticker on the rear fender of the splendors and a similar one on the heat shields of cbzs warning of the vehicle being euro2/bharat 2000 emissions norms compliant and of the presence of catcon , and not to use leaded fuel

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[MENTION=22895]RBK[/MENTION] I am saying it from experience.
A long term review from your side would be very helpful.
[MENTION=26930]kb100[/MENTION] only bs3 and bs4 spec herohonda bikes have catcon.

The 2000-2009 mdl or euro2 splendor/splendor+ is non-cat. Has a true top speed of 100+kph without any vibration and runs on a compression ratio of 8.8:1. My bs3 passion pro doesn't cross 90 kph but is a lot quicker to reach there. The case is same with classic cbz and cbzX. But due to overall restrictions, the newer bikes will feel harsh near their limits.
Add to that here's a list of compression ratio's,

Splendor+ i3s 100cc- 9.9:1
Splendor ismart 110- 10:1
Xpulse200- 10:1
Hornet 160r- 10:1
Apache rtr200 9.7:1
Pulsar 150- 9.5:1

All the above data is of 2k19 models. You can see that even a commuter bike from hero runs on higher compression than it's peers.

All new hero engines are not entirely new. Hero has bought complete rights to the 100,125,150, 102( old activa/ pleasure) and 223cc honda engines. Hero has practically and logically used honda engines as the base for developing the new engines. Also the bs3/bs4 bore kits for hero and honda are way more expensive than bs2 kits.

I am ending this topic right here. It's just what I've experienced in recent years.

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all herohonda bikes post 2000 came with catalytic convertor and ais, and the speed difference between the old models and new ones are nothing to write home

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Am really not sure, 10K kms for the engine run-in?! The currently technology and metallurgy used to manufacture engines is way ahead and not like old process. For a 150/200cc motor these run-ins should be minimal. Any how, shall wait and see if it improves going ahead.

LED Headlamp is just OK for the city. Low beam is always ON. I feel switching on high beam some times inside the city itself. No way these can be used for highways. An auxiliary set of lights is a must to venture out in trails.

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You're 100 % right. I have experienced it in my 2018 Hornet, engine has become very smooth from 5k kilometers .

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15k is for splendor/passion. I've experienced it. Cbz/hunk/hornet require 5k km for opening up. This topic has been discussed in the splendor and cbz xtreme threads.

All honda/hero gearboxes are initially hard but gradually become slick. Never ridden a classic cbz though so won't comment on that.

Xpulse's engine is based on the unicorn engine. A long term review will provide better picture of refinement.

Edit- older bikes ( pre 2010, HH or any make) run on lower compression, have non cat free flow exhausts and mostly run on 20w oils. Post 2010 (bs3) bikes run on higher compression, have catcon, are heavier and run on 10w oils. Older bikes are obviously more refined but new bikes are considerably faster. My 120kg passion pro does 0-60 in 8 sec. CbzX is much faster than classic cbz. So it's not logical to compare them.

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15K for break in , really, and the level of refinement is not what it used to be a decade back, and honda gearboxes are pigs when it comes to downshifting, (shine ,classic cbz and zma)

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Your bike looks absolutely nice in Red.

How is the LED Headlamp throw at night? Is it more convenient or okay for highway drive?

Did you test drive the Hero Xpulse 200t before taking the delivery of the Xpulse 200?

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From BS3 onwards, both honda and hero bikes take a lot of km to run in properly. 5k km in case of cbz/hunk/karizma/hornet and upto 15k km for splendor/passion. During this period they vibrate a lot and feel super stressed in top end. Once they cross 10-15k on odo they become butter smooth and feel lively near top end. Hero is still following honda methodologies in engine design and manufacturing. Xpulse is no different. Bikes from other brands run-in in 1.5-2k km but will never provide the engine-gearbox refinement of hero and honda.

P. S- After the free services, change the engine oil to veedol/motul 10w30. Refinement will definitely increase. The hero genuine oil does the job but is really average in terms of smoothness. Use only 10w30 or 10w40 grade.

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The fi version isn't as noisy as the carb during idling.

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Waiting for this... Congrats RBK. I have an eye for this bike.

I was a Rx135 5 speed rider so far. I have a back pain issue. So thought of buying some good suspension bike. Himalayan is out of my budget. There it come xpulse. Started liking this after seeing the videos in youtube. I am from chennai. Still RTO yet to approve here. I hope the initial problems of the bikes will not there now it seems.

Is there anything can be done for the seat? Thanks.

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Thread approved.