Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Pinaki ji , the bush can be lubricated by using grease . we need to remove only axil ,chain covers and magnet cover. Also OE bush set cost lessthan rs 100 .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

If they need to be changed , just change them . Use OE parts from Hero for this , no problem in it . Also the bush set is not costly , but being a laborious job mechanic may ask more labour charge than the actual parts - that's quite justified too .
Periodic lubrication may prolong their life but I don't know of an easy way to lube the swingarm bush on this bike . Myself am waiting for the rains to pass to lubricate them on my bike soon . If anyone knows of a shortcut way of doing this , please help .

even a few pics is worth waiting for . I am also living away form home now for job , so I know it is a great feeling to ride back home everytime , even after many such trips .

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Thanks Pinaki Sir for the reply. Yes, i am asking about the swingarm bush. Wheel bearings were checked , they are good. Mechanic said that swingarm bushes need to be replaced. So I was wondering if something like Sibun sir using old bushes with new bushes in his Xtreme can be done for my bike as well. Or if there is any other better solution ?

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Rode to hometown from workplace. (from Dindigul to Kanyakumari), It was a 4 days trip. Clicked very few pictures as i have traveled this route n number of times. Will post some pictures tomorrow. Rode 735 kms in 4 days.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Cannot say for other bikes , I've only tinkered with small-capacity yamahas, a tvs max and star-city and this splendor+ I have now . For the splendor's spark plug and oil-drain nut I can confidently say that the double-end 16-17 ring-spanner is by far the best tool , and I have tried all else . Am sure you'll agree if you practically test this out . The tubular plug socket that comes in the splendor's tool-kit has loose grip and rounds off the corners of hex-nut on the plug ( I have tried another one from another splendor too , same problem ) . it'll however do the job in an road exigency . Yamaha's tool-kits were much better , still have some of them .
Other than this the second most used spanner on splendor is the 10-12 open spanner . taparia makes this odd combinations like 10-12 , 14-17 etc which matches the splendor's OE toolkit sizes . taparia's open spanners are excellent for small nuts , tight fit and zero wiggle , never slips . I was quite surprised with it's grip when I got the small taparia 10-12mm open spanner . Previously I had some other brand 10mm ones in open , combination and double-end ring types . But this new small beauty is now a favorite . Sorry for ranting , like many of you here , I have an emotional attachment to my tools

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

True that a 12 point might suffice in most cases but the challenges that I see is material density and deterioration like aluminium cover bolts etc, and smaller sized bolts and nuts have a higher chance of deformation.

Hence why for small hard to get bolts and nuts I have a long-reach 6 point box kit which is better at undoing bleeders than a ring spanner, have deformed many to risk any more. Long reach axle box kits are also available and can be bought per piece, one time investment and easier to carry under the seat, will post a picture when I get back home.

As for spark plug I insert the stock tool over the plug and then use a box spanner on the other end, gets the job done with the least hassle, especially considering that Pulsar plugs are hard to reach due to them being inside a sleeve, even in the case of other Motorcycles the leverage helps avoid any mishaps to self or cooling fins in the event of a slip. The stock tool costs peanuts and the ones provided along with Bajaj motorcycles are of a better make than the ones that came with my ZMA, though for some reason Bajaj completely ignored to add the suspension adjustment tool.

Again this is a subjective practice, I might be deforming more bolts due to my inexperience and lack of patience to use penetrative oils, or thread lock fetish.

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some 6-point ring-spanners are also made , only not in our country . Yes , 6-point technically has superior grip undoubtedly , but there is a big debate whether it makes a significant difference in practical automotive & mechanical work . 12-point double-end ring spanners have been use for ages and preferred by mechanics because it has advantage of 12 angles of engagement ( rather than the 6 ) and requires less effort in use . I have never found anything wanting with the grip of a well made 12-point double-end ring spanner . Never has one slipped on a nut in my hands . The advantage of 6-points seems more or less theoretical to me .
As for sockets and handles , I have tried using them for servicing this bike and always found disadvantage . Like the big rear wheel nut on the right side cannot be engaged by socket because of lack of space , and an open spanner has insufficient torque , you'll HAVE to use 19mm ring spanner for it . Like the spark-plug cannot be engaged with a normal 16mm socket , you's require an expensive special 16mm "spark-plug" socket for it ( taparia makes one ) . The spark-plug socket that comes in the bike's toolkit is the worse , only to be used in an emergency . Likewise there are many important fasteners on this bike that calls specifically for a ring/open spanner , and sockets won't do for them . So rather than a mixed set of tools , I ( like the mechanics ) keep just a few essential double-end 12-point ring-spanners and a full set of open spanners

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

I would rather suggest '6 Point' box spanner sockets to do the job, reason being ring spanners are not available in '6 point' option and hence they have a tendency to deform bolt heads, especially the ones made of aluminium.

Here's an example of what might happen;



Here's a picture of a '6 Point' 17mm box socket;



If you don't wish to invest in tools it is fine because the stock tool kit comes with a '6 Point' dual head tool which can be used to take out the spark plug with one end and remove the drain bolt with the other.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

The helmet lock is a part of the set but it's not given in the picture. My bike surprisingly didn't have a helmet lock though.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

holding the handlelock keyhole shutter open with a thin screwdriver ( or something similar ) I dribble some sewing machine oil or spray wd40 into the lock once in a while , and that keeps it working smooth even during rains .
Yes , Minda products are really good quality . This lock-set does not include the helmet-lock ?

The steering bearings needs periodic lubrication ( clean , grease and new bearing-balls ) and tightening , without which they'll fail early . If the bearing races run dry they become scored or even broken . I have used bajaj's bearing-balls ( very cheap ) because during opening mechanic will invariably drop and lose the old balls . Twice done in 8 years and still running fine on the original races ( my bike is also 2010 model ).
What's a chassis bush ? do you mean swing-arm bush ? As for the rear wheel problem, check the wheel bearings on both wheels , replace if any play or roughness in them .
You can try AdonP ( available at IOC pumps in 9 Rs pouch ) with petrol , I am using it regularly , it's really good . The stuff is made by Total of France . I can say this because I clean the carb by myself at least once a year , and since using adonp I find it very clean inside everytime I open it, and jets do not clog up as easily as before . My Splendor+'s idle-jet had a tendency to clog .

Need to take into consideration the time also for oil change . I'm sure everyone has read the owner's manual , but the general recommendation for motorcycles is 3000 km or six months , whichever occurs earlier . I usually drain oil in 2000 kms because by that time it's been nearly six months for my bike . My bike loves fresh oil . Motul 3000 4T+ and Gulf synth 4T are the best oils I have used on this bike until now . Presently am running on Valvoline champion 4T 10w30 , which is kinda so-so , not the best .
Air filter ( foam ) is to be cleaned with kerosene and soaked in 90 gear-oil and then squeezed almost dry before fitting .
I cannot agree with on the carb . At least on my bike the carb NEEDS to be cleaned ( mostly just the idle jet ) at least once a year .
Oil drain nut on Splendor is 17 mm , not 12 . A 16-17 ring spanner is good investment for this bike , 17mm for the oil-drain nut and the 16mm end for spark plug . Good practice to replace the aluminum crush-washer often , the OE ones are Rs 5 apiece .

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Ordered this on Amazon a week back. Arrived today. Gonna use it on my Splendor Pro. Frequent rains and water seeping has ruined the handle lock and the previous owner didn't give me a spare key to use in case of emergency, so I thought it'd be a nice move to change the lock set all total. The cost is way less than the stock Hero locks and the MINDA quality seems better.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Hello to everyone on this thread.
I need help regarding my Passion Pro 2010 model. It needs the cone set change (hard steering) & also the Chassis bush change (acc to mechanic) because sometimes bike feels like it has got a puncture or something is not right with the rear wheel. It happens suddenly & randomly, then after some time bike runs okay-ish. Checked the tyres, alloys, brakes, chain alignment on both sides. These things are fine. Also the 4 rubber pads inside the wheel hub are new & genuine Hero parts.
[MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] sir, i remember that on your CBZ Xtreme thread, you used the old chassis bushes alongwith the new bushes for better stability & rigidity. Can something like that be done on my bike. Also, are there any better quality aftermarket products than the Hero parts because it feels like Hero parts quality is not so good now. The last time I changed the cone set on my bike with Genuine Hero cone set, it lasted only for 8000 kms or so, then needed constant attention.

And what are your thoughts on fuel additives like Iftex System G / System D. Should they be used in bikes (both carb & fi ), cars (both petrol & diesel ). If they are beneficial then which brand product is the best based on your experience.
Thanks.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

If you change spark plug with in few km there are two reasons . either you are running rich or your bike may start to consume oil. There is no relation between engine oil consuming and carb . if you are running rich you can see black and scooty plug with powder deposits of carbon . also you can see same in your exhaust tip. If your plug is black with oily and the scilencer tip is oily then your bike consuming oil also it produce white smoke. For chain kit go for rolen or diamond or ifb brand .these are good quality products. Also use 90 gear oil for lube chain.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Yes, indeed. The lack of a cradle makes the bike light weight and shorter in height. That's exactly the reason why I asked you about the Dawn earlier. I've been asking around, CDSS uses the chassis we're talking of and it's same one as Splendor Pro & Dawn and bit study when compared to HF Deluxe and Splendor+. I'll ask around for it.

Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

Experienced owners such as [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] [MENTION=29030]Pinaki[/MENTION] and the rest would be able to guide you on going for a complete restore.

Though one thing I'm curious about is the rigidity of the chassis, and the CD100 lacks a cradle(the cradle seen in the picture is actually part of the crashguard) compared to the double cradle offered on the later on variants of the Splendor, CD/HF series etc., so would going for a newer chassis with double cradle be an upgrade or would there be no difference at all in structural rigidity?