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  • sibun
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Bismaya View Post
    Where do you live brother? I'm from CDA.
    Bhubaneswar pokhariput.

    I will be hanging out at my mechanic place

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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by sibun View Post
    Meet me on weekends will check out the bike. Needs some work. Splendor is a good bike. Some fault is there in your bike.


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    Where do you live brother? I'm from CDA.

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  • sibun
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Bismaya View Post
    Got it. The next time I'll pass by NALCO Chhak, I'll be sure to go and talk to him.

    Also, guys I've noticed some issues with my Splendor Pro lately:

    1. Getting poor mileage in city riding conditions. I put in about 1.3 litres (Rs 100 worth of Fuel) and after riding about 58kms in the city itself, the bike went to reserve again (I filled right away when my bike hit reserve).

    2. The engine seems a bit harsh and the down-shifting causes harsh torquey noise.

    3. Pick-up seems to have decreased a bit and so has the constant acceleration. This happens mostly in the mid-range speeds when the 3rd and 4th gear are engaged. The bike doesn't seem to be able to maintain a constant torque or acceleration. I have to rev the bike really hard to maintain the speed and this wasn't an issue before. I was riding on the highway today and the bike didn't go any higher than 60kmph even after pushing it hard.

    4. The bike seems to be a bit unstable. I checked the handlebar and there's nothing on it. The racer and cones ever changed when I bought the bike from the old owner (May 2018, 26.4K on ODO). Checked the tyre pressures as well. No issues there. Where is the fault? The mechanics keep saying that I'm a lightweight guy and that's causing the issue with flicking. I'm about 60kgs in weight and 5'9 in height. I'm skinny but I've never faced such issues on my old CB Twister.

    Now, I'm starting to think that buying this bike was a mistake. It doesn't seem to be a reliable workhorse like the old Splendors. People can sing all the praises they want to but impractical changes have made this bike totally useless. It doesn't feel any smooth like the old Honda engine Splendors and believe me, this isn't the first Splendor I've ever ridden in my entire life.

    Would really appreciate if someone could help me out here.
    Meet me on weekends will check out the bike. Needs some work. Splendor is a good bike. Some fault is there in your bike.


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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by sibun View Post
    His workshop is near sainik school. Just besides capital electronic shop
    Got it. The next time I'll pass by NALCO Chhak, I'll be sure to go and talk to him.

    Also, guys I've noticed some issues with my Splendor Pro lately:

    1. Getting poor mileage in city riding conditions. I put in about 1.3 litres (Rs 100 worth of Fuel) and after riding about 58kms in the city itself, the bike went to reserve again (I filled right away when my bike hit reserve).

    2. The engine seems a bit harsh and the down-shifting causes harsh torquey noise.

    3. Pick-up seems to have decreased a bit and so has the constant acceleration. This happens mostly in the mid-range speeds when the 3rd and 4th gear are engaged. The bike doesn't seem to be able to maintain a constant torque or acceleration. I have to rev the bike really hard to maintain the speed and this wasn't an issue before. I was riding on the highway today and the bike didn't go any higher than 60kmph even after pushing it hard.

    4. The bike seems to be a bit unstable. I checked the handlebar and there's nothing on it. The racer and cones ever changed when I bought the bike from the old owner (May 2018, 26.4K on ODO). Checked the tyre pressures as well. No issues there. Where is the fault? The mechanics keep saying that I'm a lightweight guy and that's causing the issue with flicking. I'm about 60kgs in weight and 5'9 in height. I'm skinny but I've never faced such issues on my old CB Twister.

    Now, I'm starting to think that buying this bike was a mistake. It doesn't seem to be a reliable workhorse like the old Splendors. People can sing all the praises they want to but impractical changes have made this bike totally useless. It doesn't feel any smooth like the old Honda engine Splendors and believe me, this isn't the first Splendor I've ever ridden in my entire life.

    Would really appreciate if someone could help me out here.

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  • sibun
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Bismaya View Post
    That's great. Also, back in your ownership of the Joy, you talked of a certain mech in BBSR who works on your Joy. May I know where I could find his workshop? I would like to get in touch in touch with him since he does good work according to you.

    Also, feel free to clear any recent misconceptions that you come across in the thread.
    His workshop is near sainik school. Just besides capital electronic shop

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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by sibun View Post
    Because fitting fuel gauge will need work on tank and also changes in wiring. By the way bike is still on stock wiring. So no tampering
    That's great. Also, back in your ownership of the Joy, you talked of a certain mech in BBSR who works on your Joy. May I know where I could find his workshop? I would like to get in touch in touch with him since he does good work according to you.

    Also, feel free to clear any recent misconceptions that you come across in the thread.

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  • sibun
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Bismaya View Post
    That Splendor Pro console looks really nice on the Joy. Why didn't you get the fuel gauge to fit on this? Those duplicate indicator tell-tale lights look weird TBH.
    Because fitting fuel gauge will need work on tank and also changes in wiring. By the way bike is still on stock wiring. So no tampering

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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by sibun View Post
    Good to see that thread is live and updated. I couldn't keep up due to some or other commitments in family and work. Many conception and misconceptions are floating in this thread.

    By the way joy has crossed 4 Lacs on odo.
    But after that odo has stopped working. Will get it repaired soon.
    That Splendor Pro console looks really nice on the Joy. Why didn't you get the fuel gauge to fit on this? Those duplicate indicator tell-tale lights look weird TBH.

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  • sibun
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Good to see that thread is live and updated. I couldn't keep up due to some or other commitments in family and work. Many conception and misconceptions are floating in this thread.

    By the way joy has crossed 4 Lacs on odo.
    But after that odo has stopped working. Will get it repaired soon.
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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Sorry about the double post, but once again agreeing with what Pinaki said Splendor fails again in huge traffic density because of the weight. I took a plunge and went in deep city traffic to buy some items for the Janmasthami Puja today. I decided to take the Splendor instead of the Unicorn and I felt really uncomfortable riding it in Buxi Bazar (those from Cuttack or Bhubaneswar will be surely familiar with the name :P [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] & [MENTION=32054]sambit[/MENTION]). I'm almost 5'9 and got huge legs. I'm skinny and weigh about 60 but still the bike felt really sluggish and I had to put down my foot every now and then because of the huge traffic density. And this wasn't some stop & go traffic, it was bumper to bumper traffic. Man, this was a real bummer as I had to put down my foot to maintain the centre of gravity again & again, not to mention that the lighter handle bar didn't help to steer. The chasis felt somewhat heavy at 116kgs. Overall, this isn't the perfect commuter or workhorse anymore. The only reason Splendor & Activa sell these days are because they had made a name in the long past. Now, I think I'll hand over this bike to my father and go for something else after I'm done selling the Unicorn.

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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    Very much agree with you , no way a 97.2cc bike should weight 110 Kgs with todays modern materials and tech .
    I feel that Splendor badly needs a proper upgrade , and I'd love to see at least 30% reduction in weight , fuel-injection , a better 130mm brake on rear wheels , a better headlamp , LEDs on all the meter-panel lights / tail-light / brake-light / turn-indicators , a more modern battery etc etc . But very unfortunately Hero is not going for such useful upgrades anywhere . Only some cosmetic "upgrades" and new names every year from them , pretty disappointing . When they separated from Honda, Hero had promised a slew of new innovative technologies - but nothing has happened in years . They are playing safe just keeping-up with market demand & reaping profits from their earlier tie-up , instead of investing on research & new innovations . Even the most beautiful colours of the Splendor is no longer in production ! Yamaha on the other hand has taken up weight-reduction and all their models now are 10-20% lighter and consequently their fuel-mileage has also increased significantly . Their 150cc R15S is now only 134kgs , ( with fuel, oil & coolant i.e kerb weight ) .
    Yeah. And even the Saluto RX and Honda Dream line up bikes feel much lighter than Splendor at a weight of about 100 & 109kgs respectively. They're much easy to flicker and maneuver. Splendor could use a bit more torque as compared to power, like these bikes. I liked what they did with the iSmart 110 but it's still more weight. My bike on the other hand is about 116kgs and doesn't even feel stable and nimble when compared to a Passion which is like 4kgs lighter.

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  • Pinaki
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Bismaya View Post
    ... Also, I'm looking to decrease the weight of the bike. It's too small for me and the power to weight ratio doesn't feel proper ...
    Very much agree with you , no way a 97.2cc bike should weight 110 Kgs with todays modern materials and tech .
    I feel that Splendor badly needs a proper upgrade , and I'd love to see at least 30% reduction in weight , fuel-injection , a better 130mm brake on rear wheels , a better headlamp , LEDs on all the meter-panel lights / tail-light / brake-light / turn-indicators , a more modern battery etc etc . But very unfortunately Hero is not going for such useful upgrades anywhere . Only some cosmetic "upgrades" and new names every year from them , pretty disappointing . When they separated from Honda, Hero had promised a slew of new innovative technologies - but nothing has happened in years . They are playing safe just keeping-up with market demand & reaping profits from their earlier tie-up , instead of investing on research & new innovations . Even the most beautiful colours of the Splendor is no longer in production ! Yamaha on the other hand has taken up weight-reduction and all their models now are 10-20% lighter and consequently their fuel-mileage has also increased significantly . Their 150cc R15S is now only 134kgs and 250cc FZ25 is 148kgs , ( with full fuel, oil & coolant i.e kerb weight ) .
    Originally posted by ranjithp View Post
    ... the bush can be lubricated by using grease . we need to remove only axil ,chain covers and magnet cover ..
    which axle ? From what I can see - the rear wheel , brake assembly , rear sprocket carrier , magnet-cover , chain covers has to be removed . Additionally the silencer , pillion step-brackets on both sides , both rear shockers may need to be removed too , I felt . Pulling out the swing-arm axle/shaft without removing the rear wheel will cause big problem because the weight of the whole rear wheel is still on it .
    Last edited by Pinaki; 09-01-2018, 07:19 PM.

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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Shashank K R View Post
    If you do not carry a pillion at all, you could remove the grab rail and the saree guard.

    Then there's the chain cover, though I suspect you'll want to keep that as it is very functional.

    You could try a battery delete as well (ashwinprakas has described it in detail in the DIY section) since you're fine with only kick start.

    I don't know whether the headlight unit will be heavier than a round dome, maybe this could help reduce weight.

    Also the alloys I think will be lighter, although the ones from Xtreme are wider and will have a disc to take care of as well.
    I think I'll keep he chain cover. I carry a pillion every now and then. I'll keep the saree guard but might just do away with the luggage carrier. Gonna replace it with the grab rails from Dawn or Deluxe. The dome headlight doesn't seem that much of heavy tbh. Since the Xtreme wheels won't fit, I might just go for a spoke replacement from the other bike I own.

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  • Shashank K R
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by Bismaya View Post
    What else should I do?
    If you do not carry a pillion at all, you could remove the grab rail and the saree guard.

    Then there's the chain cover, though I suspect you'll want to keep that as it is very functional.

    You could try a battery delete as well (ashwinprakas has described it in detail in the DIY section) since you're fine with only kick start.

    I don't know whether the headlight unit will be heavier than a round dome, maybe this could help reduce weight.

    Also the alloys I think will be lighter, although the ones from Xtreme are wider and will have a disc to take care of as well.
    Last edited by Shashank K R; 08-31-2018, 12:24 AM.

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  • Bismaya
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Is there any way of getting the Alloys from Hero Xtreme 2013/14 models to fit into the Splendor Pro? Both are 18 inch wheels and the ones on Xtreme seem more rigid and lighter. Plus, my local mechanic took them off an Xtreme whom he changed to spoke wheels for the user. Getting those at a good price. Let me know guys. Really excited to get these to fit.

    Also, I'm looking to decrease the weight of the bike. It's too small for me and the power to weight ratio doesn't feel proper like that of Livo, Dream DX or even the regular splendor+. I'm using the outgoing 2015 model and the kerb weight is about 116kgs. I'm an average rider of 60kg in weight and about 5'8 in height. I would like to make the bike more flickable. Any good non functional parts that I could get rid of to decrease some weight? What I had in mind:

    1. Removing the side box
    2. Removing the starter motor (needs some repair work, I can live without it with a kick)
    3. Removing the utility box (never had a use for it)
    4. Changing the alloys with that of the spoke ones from my CD100 and vice versa. Opinions?

    What else should I do?
    Last edited by Bismaya; 08-30-2018, 11:14 PM.

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