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  • #bpk
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
    Hello everyone I came across one problem ii n my bike the engine oil is decreasing by 80 to 100 ml every 1000 kms is it okay or is thier any problem in my bike no smoke from exhaust once I got 680 ml after drain in 2000kms help me
    Show it to svc

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  • Pavankumar.m333@gmail.com
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    On long rides there is deposit of wet and dry carbon soot but I asked some mechanics they carbon is due to faulty petrol and they told reduce in engine oil is normal due to heat

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  • dumb0
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
    Little bit of carbon deposits are Thier on high rpm but no smoke is there
    Exhaust is to be checked at shutdown engine, not revving etc.

    Are the deposits on Exhaust end Dry or Wet on touching?

    Check bolts, washers, O-rings for pin-pointing any leakages.
    Last edited by dumb0; 06-12-2019, 07:26 PM.

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  • Pavankumar.m333@gmail.com
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by dumb0 View Post
    Please first check the insides of Exhaust tip with clean cloth wrapped on little finger.

    There should not be wet carbon deposit.

    It there is wet deposit of Carbon , then rings should be changed, preferably 0.25 size rings should be fitted with hand grinding.

    It its clean with no deposit of Carbon, then look below and sides of engine for answers.
    Little bit of carbon deposits are Thier on high rpm but no smoke is there

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  • dumb0
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Due to regular wear and tear I've now brought my change interval down to 1.5k km's.

    Especially since a fellow xBhpian has a R15 that has clocked 1.6L on stock internals and he follows 1.5k oil changes.
    Nice update.

    Would definitely follow.

    Thanks

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  • ashwinprakas
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
    By the way now I use only mineral oil and drain it every 2000km as I used to earlier.
    Due to regular wear and tear I've now brought my change interval down to 1.5k km's.

    Especially since a fellow xBhpian has a R15 that has clocked 1.6L on stock internals and he follows 1.5k oil changes.

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  • dumb0
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
    My bike Is new bs4 splendor 18000kms done piston rings cannot go so early
    Please first check the insides of Exhaust tip with clean cloth wrapped on little finger.

    There should not be wet carbon deposit.

    It there is wet deposit of Carbon , then rings should be changed, preferably 0.25 size rings should be fitted with hand grinding.

    It its clean with no deposit of Carbon, then look below and sides of engine for answers (leakage from bolts or O-ring/s).
    Last edited by dumb0; 06-12-2019, 07:21 PM.

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  • Pavankumar.m333@gmail.com
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    My bike Is new bs4 splendor 18000kms done piston rings cannot go so early

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  • dumb0
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by EnigmAnurag View Post
    hello everyone.. please advise on the following matter :- my passion pro 2010 model recently has started to give the impression that petrol is evaporating from the tank. I mean the bike is serviced & taken care of regularly. The riding style & conditions are the same as before, but now it feels like the tank is getting empty faster. The speedometer is not working (some very costly sensor is faulty according to Service Center), so cant measure total Kms ridden on a full tank. I have checked the spark plug, air filter, chain, tyres etc. They are fine. The carb tuning also seems good as the bike runs fine.
    Also there is sometimes petrol smell when I sit on the bike. I checked for any leaks but didnt find any. So what could be the problem ?
    [MENTION=28527]sibun[/MENTION] sir, your Joy has completed so many Kms & years. So have you faced anything similar to this with your Joy? And please guide on how to check if petrol is evaporating from my bike. Should some part in petrol tank cap be replaced( like the rubber ring) etc. ? Or if there is anything else that is needed to be done for the peace of mind, then please advise.
    Thanks.
    Hi,
    1.
    Instead of changing the Rubber Ring, (original being good one with unparalleled quality, hence retained)
    I took it out.
    Put an old rejected tube of my bike and got a Gasket cut from it , of similar size.
    First put this gasket on Tank Cap,
    then the original Rubber Ring upside down.
    This will make the Tank Cap pretty snugly fitting !

    This cured my Evaporation Problem from Tank Cap in Splendor.

    2.
    My O-ring on Carb was leaking Petrol.
    To cure it, Bought an original O-ring of the Stator Plate Assembly.
    Used a new Razor Blade to cut it to size required to snugly fit in the Float Chamber groove for the O-Ring.
    It was fitted back.

    Now, after both these, the Petrol smell near Tank is gone,

    regards
    Last edited by dumb0; 06-12-2019, 07:15 PM.

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  • MotoMan
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

    Though to this day I'd still say that if money wasn't an issue I'd be on a Splendor Classic instead of the CT100B, plus the lack of a rear seat on the Classic was something I was looking forward to.
    The splendor has made me question myself about my bike maintenance ethics and the quality of recent Hero bikes.

    An uncle in my neighbourhood has a 2004 splendor plus. He is the type that considers a motorcycle just as an appliance, no emotional attachment whatsoever.

    The daily routine of the uncle is like every morning 7.30 take the bike out, hop-on, one or two kicks ( it usually starts at the second kick ) and just when it starts put the first gear and go.

    There is no concept of engine warm up. He never washes or lubes the bike himself. Gives it for servicing to the local mech once in every 3000km or so. Never bothered about which oil brand or grade is put in the bike. And gives it for pressure washing once in every 2 months.

    I was really surprised to find that the bike has done 1.2L km even with stock clutch plates and was consistently returning 70kmpl.

    Now on the other side, I wash my bike almost every weekend, warm up the engine at least for a minute and used to change engine oil meticulously every 2000-2500 km.

    Once when my bike was 81k old, I changed the oil to semi- synth castrol power1 15w40.

    Somewhere I read that SS oils can last longer and I decided to extend the oil change interval upto 4000 km.

    First 4k km were great. Much better throttle response and slightly better FE. So obviously again I bought castrol power1.

    There was a 100 ml drop in oil level which I noticed but did not mind as I thought it was normal. During the second 4k km, the bike started to lose pickup, sometimes it felt like the piston is going to seize. Oil level dropped like crazy and that was it.

    My passion pro died at 89k on the odo and I had to go for a bore piston change.

    Now the thing is that an old almost neglected splendor plus is still running like new with all the fibre panels intact while my well looked after Passion pro has all its fibre panels ( side and tail ) broken/cracked just by going through potholes and also required a bore kit change at 90k.

    So it seems that Hero has really decreased parts quality since 2010/BS3 era.

    I also learnt that no matter what kind of oil mineral ,SS or FS, if its an air cooled engine it will last only till max 3000km. And I learnt it the hard way

    By the way now I use only mineral oil and drain it every 2000km as I used to earlier.

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    Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
    Hello everyone I came across one problem ii n my bike the engine oil is decreasing by 80 to 100 ml every 1000 kms is it okay or is thier any problem in my bike no smoke from exhaust once I got 680 ml after drain in 2000kms help me
    Seems like the piston rings are faulty. My passion pro had the same problem but I had to change the bore-kit as is had slightly scored due to really low oil level.

    Check and top up oil frequently.

    Just change the piston rings by a good local mech and dont go to the ASC.
    Last edited by MotoMan; 06-12-2019, 06:50 PM.

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  • EnigmAnurag
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by EnigmAnurag View Post
    hello everyone.. please advise on the following matter :- my passion pro 2010 model recently has started to give the impression that petrol is evaporating from the tank. I mean the bike is serviced & taken care of regularly. The riding style & conditions are the same as before, but now it feels like the tank is getting empty faster. The speedometer is not working (some very costly sensor is faulty according to Service Center), so cant measure total Kms ridden on a full tank. I have checked the spark plug, air filter, chain, tyres etc. They are fine. The carb tuning also seems good as the bike runs fine.
    Also there is sometimes petrol smell when I sit on the bike. I checked for any leaks but didnt find any. So what could be the problem ?
    @sibun sir, your Joy has completed so many Kms & years. So have you faced anything similar to this with your Joy? And please guide on how to check if petrol is evaporating from my bike. Should some part in petrol tank cap be replaced( like the rubber ring) etc. ? Or if there is anything else that is needed to be done for the peace of mind, then please advise.
    Thanks.
    Guys .. please advise.

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  • Pavankumar.m333@gmail.com
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Hello everyone I came across one problem ii n my bike the engine oil is decreasing by 80 to 100 ml every 1000 kms is it okay or is thier any problem in my bike no smoke from exhaust once I got 680 ml after drain in 2000kms help me

    Leave a comment:


  • yieldway17
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Does anyone know how tall (or wide) the gears are out of the factory for a 2010 CD Deluxe?

    I acquired one recently from a relative and as I had no experience with similar 100cc motorcycles before and was trying how the gears are setup. It’s surprising that even 4th gear works on speed breakers some times with half clutch. I know it’s not good for the engine and was only trying out to see what’s the lowest 4th gear can go.

    I also shift up pretty early generally in motorcycle and cars and this motorcycle seem to be made for me with me with me being on 4th gear in no time at all.

    Is this normal for these bikes or it has become like this because of previous usage?

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  • ashwinprakas
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
    And I dont find a single present generation 100-110 cc bike which can easily keep up with 150cc+ bikes on the highway and still return 70+ mileage and also has a lot of character.
    The Splendor is a complete motorcycle, no BS like the front lifting under load or hard acceleration, it runs without any compromises.

    A friend owns a 2010 Splendor and the things can haul ass like no other even after clocking 1.5L on the stock cylinder, within Kerala roads I can't keep up with him on my CT100B due to the Splendors superior roll-on acceleration, the guy can and has run circles around me.

    But at the same time a while ago I had gone on an interstate run with another friend who owns a more recent Splendor with self start 2013 I guess, the thing refuses to cross 80kmph on the interstate, has only 55k on the odo, while my CT100B can scream on the interstate at speedo indicated speeds nearing the 120kmph mark(100kmph true speed measured with Sigma cyclocomputer).

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    Payload was similar as I'm heavy(About 120kgs) and carrying everyones luggage whereas the Splendor was hauling 2 rider. We couldn't try the other way around as the CT100B handles like a pit-bike, front goes up when accelerating hard with a pillion whereas the Splendor rides like a true motorcycle no BS or drama.

    We didn't check FE then but on an earlier instance where I'd rode at WOT for the better part of 8k km's on the GQ circuit the CT100B returned a FE of over 60kmpl as the fuel expense was between 8~9k, don't recall the exact figures but when riding within Kerala my FE seems to drop hard to about 50kmpl mostly due to riding style and short stroke nature of engine whereas the Splendor maintains consistent FE when ridden on our challenging roads, the earlier mentioned Splendor with about 1.5L km's returns over 60Kmpl when ridden on the MC route shuttling between TVM and Adoor and you know how irritating the traffic conditions can be on that route.

    Splendors seem to be the only model that is immune to the year end price drop due to demand, back in 2017 when I was urgently looking for a commuter as my Wego developed a cracked chassis after a bad wreck Venad Motors quoted 10~15k discounts on the Splendor Classic for previous year makes, I would've gone for it but the exchange rate on the Wego was way too low and that meant I'd have to shell out money I didn't have at the time, so went over to Sarathy Bajaj and they were kind enough to offer exchange value of the IDV of the Wego as it was TL anyways, hence making it possible for me to go home with the CT100B.

    Though to this day I'd still say that if money wasn't an issue I'd be on a Splendor Classic instead of the CT100B, plus the lack of a rear seat on the Classic was something I was looking forward to.

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  • #bpk
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    Re: Hero Moto Splendor/Joy/CD-Dawn/Passion

    Originally posted by MotoMan View Post
    The asking price for old hero honda bikes in kerala is outrageous.

    But somehow I feel that the old pre-y2k splendor has got a raw mechanical feel to it. I have ridden one nonstop from Chalakudy to Pollachi via valparai, ( 130 km ). The engine doesn't heat-up at all. It can consistently cruise at 70-80 kmph, no vibrations and returns 70 plus mileage.

    Meanwhile my passion pro gets all heated up, may be due to the catcon. Max mileage it give is 65kmpl that too on strict economy speeds. If i try 70-80 kmph the mileage drops to less than 55 kmpl.

    Once I was taken away by surprise when I was doing a friendly race with my friends during my college days. The scenario is like we 6 people on three bikes- my '10 passion pro, a 06' bajaj platina and a '97 splendor. The splendor was carrying the heaviest load as the pillon was 110 kg.

    We are at the front line of a traffic signal on the Kochi- Coimbatore highway. First one to reach the next signal ( roughly 2 km away ) would win.

    3........2..........1 and the race starts. The Platina enthusiastically Jumps ahead with a wheelie. 0-60, platina wins hands down. Post 60, the passion pro shoots ahead of the platina and the splendor also cathes the platina.

    Now I was nearing the finishing line. the passion pro is doing 90 kmph, wide open throttle. The platina was already out of the league and had vanished from my RVM.

    I could see the splendor was going away in the RVM. But wait ! Instead of going away, it was chasing me down. My passion pro is pinned at 90, refusing to go any further.

    And at about 300 m to the finish line, the splendor gives me a nice fly-by at 105 kmph

    I was like....IMPOSSIBLE !

    So it makes sense to buy and restore an old splendor as it will only cost half amount of buying a new commuter bike. And I dont find a single present generation 100-110 cc bike which can easily keep up with 150cc+ bikes on the highway and still return 70+ mileage and also has a lot of character.
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