I'll try a semi-synth next. Power1 i've heard a lot of mixed reports so i dunno. some say it's pretty good and some say it's the worst oil ever. being castrol i think it's better to avoid it because it's the most faked brand.

and you didn't mention which weight would be better, 40 or 50. All FI owners please post your experiences if you've switched to 50. Apar?

The thing is, most times they don't do the above mentioned things even though they're explicitly mentioned on the back of the service coupon, and even if you tell them to they don't always do it. Personally i can't be bothered to have an argument with the people at the svc everytime i go there, so i just forget about it. This time however, i'm going to have to do something about getting the injector cleaned properly. even the best quality fuels leave a gummy, sticky residue after some time which can only be removed with the proper solvent. Blowing air isn't going to remove what even a high-pressure petrol stream can't.

Then go for the semi synth MOTUL, it'll cost you 375-395.

50 will be thick, will hamper the revving but if your running is high, you can pour it as it's summers.

@Julian: How come any kinda weird test, u guys believe I would have done, I dunno!!! :P

Anyways, I have tried Motul 15W50 once when I did not get 5W40 here. My experience, dont go for it. Its too thick and was too tight. The bike felt like a bullet unable to rev..... My R15 handles a W50 without issues, but the RTR nothing above W40. Dont even try. BTW am using W40 on the RTR for over 2000 kms now. No oil loss. I have maybe lost around 100 ml and I do top it up on both R15 and RTR. This is peak summer here with 38-degrees temperature, mind you. Mumbai I know is much better! So no W50 needed. Have been using the Motul 300V always! Its good. Try the Motul semi-synth if you wish. But losing 250 ml of oil is weird! Never had that issue.

BTW is it necessary to stick to ASC thru'out warranty period? I thought only till the free service is enough. Thats what I have done anyways...

^^^ The Sprinta 5000 is running in the RTR for 6000 KMs now (due a change) - no level drop. Temperatures in Hyderabad are like 40-42 degrees since over a month. The bike even did a long ride with the same oil.

But last time at about 5000 KMs after pouring in the oil we felt a little drop in level and topped up with 100 ml. Changed oil at 6000 KMs. We are changing the oil at 6000 KMs not because it became bad but because we are happy enough to change it now and the good experience definitely won't hold till the next service - 9000 KMs.

I never faced any oil level drop with Sprinta. used it abt 10k kms (once drained at 4.5k and next one at 5.5k). Oil turned black. had issues with clutch once and next time it was tappets. Did'nt get a chance to use it again. No drop in oil level too. Once it drop, that was coz of a loosly fitted drain bolt. But thats abt it.



Now am using 5100 motul and am pretty happy abt it. Done abt 2.4k kms, have'nt check the oil yet!

NO, only the free services.
I never got my FIERO and RTR serviced at the centre, even during the free services and it was under warranty, but i knew the showroom well.

My RTR has'nt seen any other mech other than the SVC folks till now

Same here for my Fiero F2, since 2004.

Well, basic stuff I do it on my own!

Chain tight, clutch play adjust,carb cleaning, (when i owned FIERO),oil changing that i used do at home but stopped doing it as i used to have the useless oil with me,now i get it done at my friend who's a mech, he also takes care of everything like tappets and all.

Hehe, well i kinda remembered someone saying they used 50 once and i thought it was you. i was right wasn't i ?

Anyways, so i'll stick to 40. I'll probably give 300v a shot once, it's something around 800 bucks eh? if it runs for like 5k kms then it's fine. But if the level keeps dropping like with the sprinta i'll switch to 5100.

AFAIK the manual says to stick to the ASC during the warranty period. Free service has nothing to do with it. Think about it. The bike is under TVS's warranty. And you get it fixed by xyz who mess it up. Why should tvs then honour the warranty for xyz's mess?

Anyways, i used to tinker a lot with my bikes earlier too. I especially loved setting the RDs twin carbs. Getting them to sing in tune was very satisfying. But these days i'm just plain lazy i guess. And the rtr feels really solid, plus i've had a number of bad experiences with the ASC trying to solve minor niggles. So these days i follow a 'if it aint broke dont fix it' policy. The only major thing i did myself was change the fuel filter. And it was a *****! Wish i had asked a friend to assist. Anyway, that's not something i wanna do again alone. So 10k kms later i'll get my friend mech to help me. Having mech friends is cool eh?

Nothing gives you a satisfaction like spending time tuning the carbs and getting them rightly tuned, i still love KB100's Carb more than the FIERO, and RD350 used to give tough time to mechs too in the tuning department, and that CDi ingnition was pain in the a$$.

BTW my top speed logger has automatically got itself reset at 160.
And the tappets are like "singing in the rain".

U mean the non-cdi, points ignition. I had switched to a transistorised points-replacement ignition. very slight loss in power but absolutely trouble-free. It wasn't the trouble of setting the points, but the points itself. Replacements were scarce.

Back on topic, even my top speed went to 140, then 160. Had to reset it. Tappets i can't hear much when i wear my helmet, it's when i make a short helmet-less run that i hear them and suddenly think that something is really wrong!

Oh ya, sorry that non CDI ignition...!!!! my bad.

The tappets are scaring me a little but my mech friend is still refusing to set them.


ClipOn's Adjustment:

Any of the owners here tried to change the position of the clip ons??

I mean i read somewhere that the clipons of 180 are different than the 160, cuz TVS says that the clipons of 160 are adjustable but they are not.

Their movement is hampered by the two screws that holds the console and fairing in place (you can see it by opening the triple clamp cover), so 180 has the same setup or diff???

cuz to make them move, as they have three settings of which the third one is not possible only two are possible as they are seperated by mm's but makes a large diff.

I was thinking to get it leth'ed but i dropped the idea.

I have repositioned them an year back. Will post photos tomorrow. RTR 180 must be having have same setup as that of RTR 160. And possible settings are two only.