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  • I think Sarath Kumar did pretty well.. it's no big deal for a Rookie to be lapped with such a big lineup as they have in 125s. This happens even with a small lineup of 17 in MotoGP.. but yes on smaller tracks.

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    • Boring motogp race until the last 5 laps.

      Lacy Moaner should demand for a separate side track exclusively for him on the grid just like once upon a time our bangalore auto rickshaws had. Nobody will follow him, no one will make passes at him, nobody will take him out in the race etc...

      It was funny when he got that twinge in his a$$ and was contemplating to retire from the race

      Congratulations to Sarath for making it to the race Just his third race and coming up to speed. Great going.

      Iannone rides like everybody rider's and fan's dream, starting from 14th going to 16 then to 1. BUT sometimes it can turn into a nightmare too
      Super interesting moto2 race

      Do they have any record for 125 class wherein a single rider wins all the races


      Edit: The Ducati duo have sneaked into top 5 amidst all the powerful hondas and agile yamahas. Exciting times ahead if today's tests give anything positive
      Last edited by TheRedPill; 05-02-2011, 01:19 PM.

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      • Rossi very happy. New front-end gave him much more feedback, engine also positive step, smoother off the bottom.

        Valentino Rossi said that the reason the younger riders are complaining about aggressive riding was because they are "pussies".

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        • Originally posted by skyknight19 View Post
          Rossi very happy. New front-end gave him much more feedback, engine also positive step, smoother off the bottom.

          Valentino Rossi said that the reason the younger riders are complaining about aggressive riding was because they are "pussies".
          goes for Jlolly...,

          Can someone post the final test times from yesterday please

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          • Originally posted by kingkong View Post
            goes for Jlolly...,

            Can someone post the final test times from yesterday please
            Here you go buddy...

            1. Marco Simoncelli ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1m 36.211s (70)
            2. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Yamaha Factory Racing 1m 36.316s (91)
            3. Casey Stoner AUS Repsol Honda Team 1m 36.602s (49)
            4. Cal Crutchlow GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1m 36.850s (71)
            5. Valentino Rossi ITA Ducati Marlboro Team 1m 37.382s (82)
            6. Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1m 37.410s (51)
            7. Ben Spies USA Yamaha Factory Racing 1m 37.421s (69)
            8. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1m 37.460s (63)
            9. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team 1m 37.463s (89)
            10. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team 1m 37.679s (17)
            11. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini 1m 38.032s (73)
            12. Karel Abraham CZE Cardion AB Motoracing 1m 38.087s (85)
            13. Toni Elias ESP LCR Honda MotoGP 1m 38.412s (108)
            14. Loris Capirossi ITA Pramac Racing Team 1m 38.633s (97)
            15. Nobuatsu Aoki JPN Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1m 38.850s (68)

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            • 2011 Estoril Post-Race MotoGP Test Roundup - On Hindsight, Updates And Insults | MotoMatters.com | Kropotkin Thinks

              Hindsight, as they say, is always 20/20, and MotoGP tests following a race usually tend to bear this out. Teams suddenly find the time to try the setup changes they had figured out over the weekend but never quite got round to making to the bike to use in the race.


              A case in point was Cal Crutchlow, who had had a moderately successful race on Sunday, coming home on Sunday. Crutchlow himself was far from pleased, however; the team were using a 15mm shorter wheelbase on Crutchlow's M1 than on any of the other Yamahas, intending to try a longer wheelbase during warmup on Sunday. The wet track on Sunday morning put a stop to this, so when Crutchlow got a chance to try the bike on Monday with the longer wheelbase, the fact that he rocketed to the sharp end of the timesheets confirmed two things: One, that the revised setup was working; and two, that Crutchlow could be troubling the front group sooner rather than later. Crutchlow's times on Monday were downright impressive, now all he has to do is ensure the team get the setup right on Sunday, and not on the day after at the test.


              Much the same might be said for Jorge Lorenzo. The reigning world champion has been struggling with braking this season, something which Lorenzo has found doubly disappointing because that has traditionally been the strong point throughout his career. So bad had the problem become that when the team arrived at the track on Friday, Lorenzo found himself braking for turn 1 some 40 meters earlier than he had been doing when he won in 2010.
              On Monday, Lorenzo's pit crew took what with hindsight would be the obvious step, going back to use some settings that they used last season. The reward was immediate, Lorenzo's confidence in corner entry and carrying corner speed vastly increased, and Lorenzo once again vying at the top of the timesheets.


              The man who kept Lorenzo from setting the fastest time was the rider who had been most impressive all weekend, except for a minor mistake in the race on Sunday, which meant he crashed out after just four corners. Anyone doubting Simoncelli's talent and speed need only be shown the timesheets, but his racecraft - or rather, perhaps, his overeagerness - still get the Italian into trouble, Estoril being the second race in a row that Simoncelli has crashed out of.


              Asked if he had had a good night's sleep, Simoncelli was frank: "No!" but the results of the test gave the Italian reason to be hopeful. A new clutch to help cure hopping on the rear under braking had helped, and the team had also found an improvement to the front forks which helped the bike over the bumps while leaned over.


              But while Simoncelli was fuming at himself, he was still also stewing over Lorenzo's comments about him being dangerous. "I never fought with Lorenzo in all my career, only in Valencia, and now he is saying that I am dangerous," the Italian complained, pointing out that to his mind, it was Lorenzo who was at fault in that incident. Perhaps the comments were because Lorenzo perceived Simoncelli as a threat, the Italian conceded: "Maybe he is trying mind games, but for sure these tactics have no effect on me."


              Valentino Rossi was far more forthright in his opinions about the riders complaining about aggressive moves. Rossi conceded that in 250s, Simoncelli had made a few moves "at the limit", but in MotoGP, his moves had not been beyond the pail. The problem, Rossi avowed, lay elsewhere: "For me, the problem is that big part of MotoGP riders now are pussies," Rossi declared. "In the past, this is normal, the riders were more like real men. Now it is more like they are children."


              Rossi's remarks raised a few smirks around the assembled media, but most of the attention was focused on progress with the Ducati. Ducati's technical guru Filippo Preziosi had brought a new chassis, a new engine and a modified electronics package with him for the factory Ducati riders to test, and these had shown a clear improvement.


              The modified chassis had garnered the most attention, and had worked just as Ducati had hoped it would. The new chassis - actually a small, trapezoidal carbon fiber subframe connecting the engine to the steering head - was providing more feedback, giving both Rossi and Hayden a better sense of what was going on with the front tire. But the big improvement for Rossi was that now when they tried setup changes on the front end, the bike reacted as expected. Both Casey Stoner and Nicky Hayden have complained in previous years that finding a setup could be like looking for a needle in a haystack, with the way the bike responded to setup changes being completely unpredictable. Sometimes a huge change would make no difference in the feel where a tiny modification would radically alter the bike, while at other tracks the opposite might be true. Some predictability in the way the chassis responds means finding a setup will be much easier in the future, and a big step in the right direction.
              The new engine that Ducati brought was another step in the right direction, the engine being more controllable and softer off the bottom of the throttle. The bike is now more like Rossi asked for it to be, Preziosi explained, responding much more smoothly to the throttle. The trouble with new engine specs is that with the limit of 6 engines for the entire season, Ducati cannot introduce a new engine when it suits them. So the new engine spec will likely first see action at Barcelona, depending on the mileage on the current set of engines being used.


              There are no such problems with the chassis, and the new subframe will be deployed at the next race at Le Mans. The upgraded electronics package was already being used at Estoril, and further developments will be coming soon.


              Though everyone concerned at Ducati was positive about the changes, they were all equally keen to point out that the changes were just "a small step" in the right direction. The consensus, though, was that the direction for development had been found, and there would be plenty more to come in the future.


              With the proven speed of the Hondas, the 2011 RC212V having taken victory in two of the three races so far this year, you would suspect that there is little development work to be done on the bike. And frankly, you would be right, though the riders still had a couple of clutches and some forks to test. The state of the Honda - and the fact that riders are never satisfied with what they have - was nicely summed up by Andrea Dovizioso: "We are really close to being OK," Dovizioso said, "We just need to improve the stability." To mere mortals, rather than MotoGP riders, "really close to OK" means the closest thing to a perfect motorcycle that current technology is capable of producing.


              The clutch Honda tested received mixed reactions, with Simoncelli and Dovizioso liking the new clutch, while Casey Stoner was less convinced. What Stoner had liked was the 2011 Ohlins forks, which the team had finally got to work on the bike without them chattering. The new forks improved the feel over the bumps, and this in turn had made the bike better in the long corners, where the bumps had badly unsettled the bike during the race.


              It was a good thing that Honda had so little to test, however, as two of HRC's factory riders were in no real shape to be putting in the miles. After his victory on Sunday, Dani Pedrosa's shoulder was still stiff and painful, and the Spaniard called it a day at the end of the morning, professing himself to be too injured to provide any useful feedback. Casey Stoner had fared a little better, the Australian's back problem which had arisen during the race still present during the morning, but riding and some exercises had loosened it up and the pain had largely disappeared by the end of the day. Both men will be glad to get some rest for the next few days to try to recover before heading for Le Mans. For Pedrosa, that meant spending a lot of time flat on his back, holding his head in a fixed position to relax the shoulder muscles as much as possible. Having a lie down may sound enticing - especially after a long weekend such as we have just had - but spending the best part of four or five days staring at the ceiling is really not as much fun as it's made out to be.


              Upgrades to the bikes and their settings were not the only thing to be tested at Estoril. Bridgestone brought a new tire for the riders to try, meant to be used in 2012 when the 1000s return. The riders immediately fell rapturously in love with the tire, praising its improved feedback and especially the fact that it got up to working temperature much more quickly than the older specs of tires. The pleas for Bridgestone to introduce it this year were loud and many, but the chance of it actually happening is fairly remote.


              The next test for the MotoGP class is at Mugello, when the first 1000cc bikes will be rolled out on the track. Any factories wanting to test new parts for their 800cc bikes will have to wait until after Brno in August, when the final 800cc test will take place. By then, though, all eyes will be on the future, when we leave the accursed 800s behind us.

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              • I didnt understand Marco's comments

                But that zipped Jorge's Mouth
                Ernest Hemingway

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                • ^^ Check this transcript:

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                  • Originally posted by skyknight19 View Post
                    Here you go buddy...
                    Thanks mate...,

                    Rossi is 5th and still 1.1 secs behind the leader...classic facepalm moment..

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                    • And check out the other article in motomatters where he has compared the testing times and race times. Biggest gainer in this is Cal Cruchlow

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                      • Bumped into this clip:
                        YouTube - Attempted pass Moto GP Valencia 2010 Lorenzo

                        This is the incident Lorenzo was quoting when he said Simoncelli is a dangerous rider.

                        And this was his reaction after the race:
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                        Last edited by TheRedPill; 05-04-2011, 03:42 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by sumit.pannalall View Post
                          Bumped into this clip:


                          This is the incident Lorenzo was quoting when he said Simoncelli is a dangerous rider.

                          And this was his reaction after the race:
                          I dunno how this is Simoncellis' fault?
                          Why did Lorenzo try to sneak like a RAT, Inside Simoncelli?
                          He wants everyone outta his way when he plans to overtake.(That would be less Dangerous,cuz Jlolly is afraid of accidents now- a -days).
                          He thought he could be Rossi,(Catalan GP,Last corner)...

                          Ambition Over weighed his talent I guess
                          Ernest Hemingway

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                          • Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                            I didnt understand Marco's comments
                            But that zipped Jorge's Mouth
                            Lorenzo said, "next time Marco tried a "dangerous" move"... there'll be a "probem"...

                            to which Marco replied... "OK, i'll be arrested"

                            hahaha... Lorenzo looked pissed.

                            Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                            I dunno how this is Simoncellis' fault?
                            Sic tightened his line because he kinda heard Lorenzo closing in.

                            Very good recovery by Jorge.

                            Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                            cuz Jlolly is afraid of accidents now- a -days).
                            Lorenzo hasn't crashed since Phillip Island way back in 2009.

                            quite an achievement.

                            Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                            He thought he could be Rossi,(Catalan GP,Last corner)...
                            Ambition Over weighed his talent I guess
                            well that was just the 2nd corner... but he did finish 1st didn't he.
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                            • @xionite

                              Yea. He won.
                              U see, I dun really Like Jorge, attitude probs wid him.
                              Always been lucky to have gud bikes, so work cut off for him.

                              Remember 250s, Dovi and Lorenzo battles.
                              Aprilia was quicker than Dovi's Honda, Results?250 Champion

                              2010, Rossi crashes in Mugello, Missed 4 Races. Lorenzo Champion.

                              I remember watching some old races, and there were some epic battles,But no complains.
                              Even WSBK, such a close competition. Do much Going on in there.(I dun follow WSBK, just You tube Videos).

                              I would start appreciating Jloly only if he signs Suzuki and Wins the championship (Just Kiddin')

                              No Offense but Stoner and Jorge are the greatest attention seeker of all times. Stoner goes on with him complaining skills, and Lorenzo acts like a Wannabe Rossi by his PRCs
                              Ernest Hemingway

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                              • attitude problems? haha... absolutely. understatement.

                                i was just highlighting that he hasn't crashed since Oz 2009.

                                4 crashes in 2008... 4 in 2009... none in 2010... n none in 2011.

                                all on the M1.

                                non-crashing has been Lorenzo's secret.

                                Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                                Always been lucky to have gud bikes, so work cut off for him.
                                ah yes... that IS true. he's made good career choices then. hehehe.


                                Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                                Remember 250s, Dovi and Lorenzo battles.
                                Aprilia was quicker than Dovi's Honda, Results?250 Champion
                                are you saying the M1 was the quickest bike on the grid in 2010?

                                and again... Lorenzo was the only rider to NOT crash in the 2010 season. (besides Rossi )

                                Originally posted by Braumabull View Post
                                No Offense but Stoner and Jorge are the greatest attention seeker of all times. Stoner goes on with him complaining skills, and Lorenzo acts like a Wannabe Rossi by his PRCs
                                true. but i think Jorge's going to be less of an "ass" in the future.

                                he'll grow out of it.

                                but Stoner's just something else isn't he?!?
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