I felt so bad that I cant explain. Its one of my fav bcoz of genius show put up by Rossi. My first race, Stoner won but I became the fan of Rossi.

yup its pitty that the rabbit has to change its direction faster to escape from the tigers on the straight..

But now on the tiger, he is neither able to go fast on the straights nor able to change the directions.. May be the tiger has grown old and put on a big tummy :-P

Pity is rabbit is still the rabbit and tiger is still the tiger.

Awesome

Great response !

Brings back old memories of the GP threads !
Bring it on .. This is how the GP threads are supposed to be

^^that was the highlight of 2007 season....Rossi chasing Ducati's superior power and Bridgestone combination....Assen GP from that year was also pretty good....Rossi won that one after coming through the field...

Guys, I have a doubt....whether Rossi/hayden have access to Stoner's data from last year or not??....it might come in handy to know how to go fast on that bike...

Rossi's main strength is corner speed, which Ducati lacks. Unlike stoner who used to zoom past the riders on the start- finish straight.

I think it will take some more time for Rossi's crew to design a Bike for Rossi's likings.

Maybe Next year if not this year.
But he's fastest than all the Ducas on the Grid, I 'm happy for that

@ King

Well so far the guys who have successfully rode the Ducati since Stoner s arrival are Nicky( considering the Satellite too ) and Stoner alone. If you check their bg both are from dirt track. And that involves a lot of counter steering after turnin hard in to the corner and holding it through the line.
If you see Sepang and Philip Island pics of Stoner riding through the corner it is exactly the same way he rides it ! Turn it hard and keep it sideways.. Not a slide actually but its a different riding manner.

But Rossi ever since he joined Duc has been saying about the Understeer. So his riding style is just completely opposite to that Stoner who almost used to Oversteer the bike.

The main diff i see between their riding is Stoner flicks it harder than Rossi and holds it thru the line. Rossi s more gentler on the flick( so he s just goin away from the line .. So understeering) and relies and lot on how the bike can be taken through the corner like a normal 250.. no sideways action but a lot of corner speed.

And the Front tire washouts ! Stoner blamed a lot on the bike and never took it up on him but i feel that his style of pushing the bike harder and muscling out caused the already cold tires to crash when other had the same temp but kept the bike up. And if you remember abt his lactose defeciency or some crap he would look exhausted as if he was raped that has to have somethin related on how he rode the bike. Even Hayden had said that the bike had to be muscled to make it work.

Well said....

Pretty accurate sum-up..., the difference in riding style is evident and Rossi himself has said that he has to meet the bike halfway..(as in adapt his riding style)....what I intend to ask is whether Rossi has access to stoner's data so that he can compare his and stoner's riding style.....in other words....whether Ducati would have the rights to use stoner's last year's data?? or is there some agreement to prevent this....

JB said that Stoner used to ride very close to the limit and hence crash quite often...maybe other riders are not that comfortable riding at the limit...afterall stoner's speed hasn't translated to world titles(apart from 2007)

high corner speed is the way to ride in 800s...but as far as my understanding goes the 2-stroke 500s needed to be muscled around in the same way as GP11....rossi might have to dig into his past....
Garry mccoy, another australian who used to flick and slide it hard(more than others of that time) was also fast but inconsistent...


P.S. seems like Scott Jones is a Dani P fan...notice his back to back articles...(He's back and he's gone)
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He he he you remember those?
Anyways not giving into the baits this time.
@King: I guess they do have access. The data collected belongs to the factory not to a particular rider. But as suren mentioned it is mainly difference in riding styles.
Ducati's inherent flaws of not changing direction with minimal effort were capitalized by Stoner's riding style where he muscles the bike around.
Though most of the times Stoner used to be in front and crash but he also used to crib that he is not able to go fast because of the slower riders on the track. The bike doesn't want to change direction suddenly and with "slower" riders all around him, he would have to make extra effort and take different lines to pass them and eventually resulting into a crash due all that direction changing on cold tyres.

On the other hand Rossi, as he is used to of the japs all his career, wants the bike to change directions with minimal effort so that he can concentrate more on different racing lines/moves/overtakes.
Braking late, going wide and coming back in, aggressive overtaking, etc. these are all the moves that can be done better with a better handling fast bike which obeys the rider and rider should be confident of the bike.
This is how Rossi has been winning and this is how he wants it to be. Burgess always stresses this point in all his interviews. Though many will differ on this point I remember him saying once Rossi comes back to his normal physical fitness he can adapt and workaround on the understeer through his riding but that is not how a bike should be ridden.

Again all this is from an armchair enthusiast

Talk about dangerous riding huh Yourgay?


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You and suren have pretty much nailed it....,

hehe....Remember Dovi said in press conference that he isn't Jlolly's friend...what a rude thing to say......I hope jlolly didn't cried afterwards...

Yup they will ! Ducati employed Stoner so they ll have access to all his data but as i said it ll be of little or no use.

And that sums it up and explains Stoner s huge no of runaway victories and less no of comeback victories.

Come on dude ! Pick the bait ! Just Pick it !

though this thread has lot of info and sumsup other forums insight.. the whole thread goes by rossi.. none cares to question the heros statics.. Yes he is great rider infacct the greatest of this era. but that doesnt mean that he is flawless.. Anyways happy fishing..

Dude His inability to ride the dirt way has been established here ! And Not everybody loves Rossi here ! Lets fish dude !