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Interesting comparison. Thanks for sharing

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yeah. true. Until his tenure with Ducati and until the arrival of Marquez, Rossi would probably have managed two win 2 more championships by now... at least!

But, DNFs are the issue. NOTHING else!

2000: Lost the championship by 49 points (probably because he had 3 DNFs)
2001: World Champion
2002: World Champion
2003: World Champion
2004: World Champion
2005: World Champion
2006: Lost the championship by just 5 points (VR had 3 DNFs which allowed Hayden to catch up.)
2007: Stoner was incredible on the Duc that year and was untouchable / won 10 races
2008: World Champion
2009: World Champion
2010: Broke leg & missed 4 races. Lost out on a possible 100 points (aPedrosa & Stoner both missing 4/5 races each. the only threats to Lorenzo's title bid.)
2011: Ducati (virtually a satellite bike) (without a doubt the dumbest thing Rossi's ever done in his life)
2012: Ducati (virtually a satellite bike) (without a doubt the dumbest thing Rossi's ever done in his life)
2013: Marc Marquez happened
2014: Marc Marquez happened
2015: Even though Lorenzo won the championship... Marc Marquez happened
2016: Marc Marquez happened




Ask Marquez. He missed 5 races in 2011 and lost the championship by just 25 points. (he literally had to give up this championship to Bradl because he went blind)

Same for last year. Marquez crashed 6 times in 2015.

Marquez crashed ZERO times (during a race) this year. He pushed himself and tested his limits during Free Practice days and Qualifying days)

Stoner & Lorenzo are lightning fast and great riders but have always ridden better when breaking away & leading from the front. (Lorenzo more than Stoner.)

DNFs are the issue. NOTHING else! Rossi and Marquez are in a different league. And if they keep it to one DNF a season both of them are untouchable

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Couldn't agree more. Right now, only two riders, who can ride around the issues and uncertain weather conditions are VR46 and MM93. Let's hope atleast with title wrapped up, Yamaha riders can now atleast 2 of the 3 races.

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congrats to MM for 3 premier class titles in just 4 years in the said class...if he keeps this up he'll be surpassing rossi's title-count pretty sure...plus he's shown lots of maturity this year, he said later how that maturity came at a big mental price..now that he seems quite balanced between his cutthroat racing instincts and maturity, he's even more a favorite for subsequent titles.

in any case, i love watching him ride...most exciting (and personally most favorite) riding style ever for both the rider and the watchers, even more exciting than stoner for me...

btw, perhaps just semantics, but saying that MM and VR are the only two riders who can ride around the issues or imperfect weather conditions is quite an inaccurate statement in itself, because if that were the case these two would be occupying the first two positions almost every race, which obviously doesn't happen that often...indeed this year has already seen more wet/mixed races than most seasons and none of the two has performed up to their level in these races, for instance (which has been particularly surprising in case of rossi since he has the reputation of being better than everyone else in the wet)...they too, by their own admissions, have suffered, sometimes significantly, from tyre issues or braking issues or something or the other much like anyone else...perhaps a more accurate statement is that VR and MM (particularly the latter imo) can ride around the issues or bad weather conditions to more satisfactory levels more often than other riders. :-)

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Well, this year a lot of other riders have outdone VR & MM in uncertain weather conditions and MM have had serious issues with their equipment.

But over the course of a season. These two are the only two riders who have the physical AND mental resolve to rise above it all. (over the course of a whole season)

Lorenzo issues always seem to be his confidence and metal strength. He is such a great rider but it's so easy to get into his head. On and off the track.

He needs to ride each race in the manner he rode at Valencia last year.

Dani's size and primarily his tendency to break bones during a crash will be the main reason he won't ever be MotoGP champion. Sad but true.

I think Marquez will unleash a side of himself which we haven't seen yet this year. Retro Marc. 2013/2014 Marc. Will be a treat to watch.


absolutely. The MotoGP grid is filled with immensely talented racers. (understatement)

Where MM and VR stand out above these riders is... over the course of a full season.

It's all about the DNFs. The numbers, over the last 15 years, prove than if VR and MM don't crash, they win the championship that year.

(The same cannot be said of any other rider (currently) in MotoGP.)
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Perhaps, I should have added few words to substantiate my comment, 'ride around the issues and still post a title challenge'. No doubt about the talent, available in motogp, they are the best of the best in the world. However, only very few stands among themselves, when faced with the difficult conditions.

After Silverstone and Missano last year, all the satellite riders, see change in weather conditions, as an opportunity for podium, as the usual advantage will be negated or neutralised.

Lorenzo needs the conditions, irrespective of whether it's a dry or wet, to remain the same throughout the weekend. Evidence, Motegi last year, when the track starts drying in the race day, he was dropping like stone. Same thing can be said in Silverstone. Saturday full wet and on the race day, full dry. Cal and MV can rise above the occasion, but, consistency is the key here.

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MotoGP Blog from #141: 93 or 46? | On Track Off Road Magazine

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lol the yamahas qualifying positions

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LOL the yamahas after lap 1.

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Factory Yamaha to be precise

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lol. Both Repsols at the end of Race.

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Yamaha after winning 5 of the first 7 races of the season, have failed to win in the remaining 9 races. Yamaha have clearly messed up, even with this star studded factory line up, with all the politicos

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Good race by Cal. A deserved victory. Splendid comeback after a bad qualifying by Rossi and Vinales.

After the Motegi title wrap, Marquez did say he was going to ride like his normal self again. At least he kept his word

Ducati would be worried to see Lorenzo struggling whenever it is cold.

Moto2 this year is absolutely nuts. What a terrible title run from all the contenders.

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This whole season has been one giant mix up.

Yamaha have won 5 races. Honda have won 6 races.
Yamaha have had 17 podiums. (Rossi: 9 podiums / Lorenzo: 8 podiums)
Honda have had 14 podiums. (Marquez: 11 podiums / Pedrosa: 3 podiums)

Yamaha (VR & JL) have amassed 408 points in spite of 7 DNFs... losing out on a possible 175 points.
(compared to Honda's 428 points when their riders crashed only twice.)

Marquez has been the 'anomaly' this season. He (and Rossi) are the only riders that have managed consistent top 5 results (if not a podium) in all races but one.

Australian MotoGP results - Cal Crutchlow finishes first

In yesterday’s thrilling race at Phillip Island, Cal Crutchlow won his second race of the season, first being at the Brno Circuit, CzechGP. This is Crutchlow’s first win in the dry weather conditions of the season.




Crutchlow managed to hold off Valentino Rossi, who started from 15th place on the grid and went on to grab the 2nd position at the end of the race.

This season’s Champion Marc Marquez started at the pole position and went on to lead the race, but his lead at the Phillip Island circuit was cut short when he crashed out of the race with 18 laps to go, which gave Crutchlow a lead of 1.9 seconds over Yamaha Movistar rider Rossi.




Maverick Vinales gave an impressive performance and finished the race in 3rd position. Former world champion Nicky Hayden made his second appearance of the season in Moto GP as a replacement of injured Repsol Honda’s rider, Dani Pedrosa. Hayden ended up finishing last after he and the local hope Jack Miller came in contact.




Jorge Lorenzo also managed to gather some championship points by finishing 6th after starting 12th. Australian wildcard Avintia Racing Ducati rider, Mike Jones impressed the crowd by finishing 15th in the race.

Final race results –



Hector Barbera ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP) DNF
Aleix Espargaro ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) DNF
Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) DNF
Loris Baz FRA Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP14.2) DNF

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