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  • Originally posted by GP_freak View Post
    I look at c2 braking/entry point when i take c1. Only that make to pin the throttle. Else i run out of track.
    I am now confident that you look way too ahead as I initially only guessed. I used to do this very same thing untill Andy Ibbott pulled me over from a live lap into the pits and asked me when I actually start looking at the corner up ahead.
    I was looking way too deep into the corners way too early. Now it is only when I am sure I am gonna hit the turn point that I start looking out for the apex in a corner. When I hit the turn point I fixate(wrong word) on the apex untill I am sure again that the bikes holding the line and will hit the apex positively. Once I am sure of the bike holding the line I start looking out for the exit of the turn while looking at the apex through the peripherial vision alone.
    I find that this helps me not miss the apexes a lot. I would be interested to know about how others are using their vision in corners as I am still workign on my vision and different approaches will help me in concluding what suits me the best.
    P.S : GP_freak..i know u r talking of braking and entry point and not about apexes or exit but i just though I would mention it here to get a rainbow of responses regarding vision through corners. I am convinced that vision is the most imp thing ( the least being body positioning surprisingly) and am raring to spark of a constructive discussion on vision to get to know how others are conquering this problem.
    Last edited by TenHut; 03-04-2010, 06:12 PM.
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    when i ride bullet before my bullet was solid condition but i once race with a Ceilo car and my engine size. mechancic say bullet is good bike but no racing. it is good for three people and very powerful.
    one day when i become rich i but ducati and then I race with cars. not now.
    kamlesh kanda
    NO PACE TOO SLOW
    IF you're at all going to be a respectable rider one day, leave your pride at the "door."

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    • @GP Freak - You seem to be hitting the track often these days. Would advice you to invest on a good lid first.

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      • Originally posted by TenHut View Post
        INow it is only when I am sure I am gonna hit the turn point that I start looking out for the apex in a corner. When I hit the turn point I fixate(wrong word) on the apex untill I am sure again that the bikes holding the line and will hit the apex positively. Once I am sure of the bike holding the line I start looking out for the exit of the turn while looking at the apex through the peripherial vision alone.
        is that the two-step drill? first concentrate on the turn in point and then the apex?

        could you give some points on how to shift the BP in between corners eg: C4, C5 . I tend to roll off the throttle while I shift from one side to the other. Is that the correct way?
        Also how would the entry be to the never ender corner?

        Originally posted by donarun View Post
        @GP Freak - You seem to be hitting the track often these days. Would advice you to invest on a good lid first.
        Arun, he seems to be very comfortable with that lid. I guess many have asked him to change it.
        Last edited by sajiv; 03-04-2010, 08:23 PM.
        "Never make the mistake of thinking someone is holding you up;that's racing, and you're holding yourself up." - Keith

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        • I think the first pic was taken in C2 I believe. My outer knees are locked in the tank and my left elbow rest on the left knee. So, not too much weight on the handlebar. My left foot in the second pic looks awkward cos I lock the heels in the pegs for stability.
          Its not that I completely look in to the exit even before entering a corner. I look straight and fix a turn in point, braking and shifting will be over by that point and then I start to turn. Next I fix which is going to be my apex and steer towards it. Then look deep in to the corner and watch the kerbs in the periphery vision. This is what I do. But I do miss the apexes, reason, I do not look at the apex after steering. But if I keep looking at the apex, my throttle input is less. If I look deep in to the corner, I am able to pin the throttle in most of the cases.
          Now anything to correct ?? Am open to any/all suggestions.
          @ Arun - Thala, I though Vega is a decent Helmet. Its not the 300 bucks helmet. Anyways, any suggestion on helmet bro ?? Something affordable by me.3 k??
          And you could also give me some suggestions man about riding in track.

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          • Originally posted by GP_freak View Post
            @ Arun - Thala, I though Vega is a decent Helmet. Its not the 300 bucks helmet. Anyways, any suggestion on helmet bro ?? Something affordable by me.3 k??
            And you could also give me some suggestions man about riding in track.
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            • Great work guys !!!

              @ El Loco: The person behind the camera should have been in front of it in the previous track day.... Neat position, you just have to let go a wee bit more.... What happens when you run ?? YOu let your shoulder in the turn first and then the body follows.... same way, let go of your shoulders and hold your tank... Its time you got on a R15....

              @GP: Machi, Pro da.... sabbaaaaa.... only thing that bothers me is the Star wars helmet of yours.... he he... since you are looking for a new one you are perfectly on the right track...

              @ Black Ninja Guy: Please use your rear view mirrors on a track day.... as it is a causal event, and you are not racing, make good use of it... avoids many of the major accidents & crashes on a track day...

              @Tenhut:
              Get back to chennai when you can... I will get back on two wheels again, and I will ride again... We should ride together sometime....

              @sajiv: Machi, when will you ever have a track day without a crash ???
              Superb riding position da... I am not sure if it is u or your bro, both of you have excellent riding positions.... Keep up the practice da.. you have to shave more time, time you got into the Group D upto 160cc category... I will ask Ravi to be with you....

              @all
              : Next track day i will be behind the lens for sure... Hoping to be infront of it in a while....

              @anant 220:
              Dude, you are doing good for the first track day.... reminds me of my days on my p150 classic on the track...
              - WonderBoy
              http://thetypicalindian.blogspot.com/

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              • Originally posted by wonderboy_tm View Post
                Great work guys !!!
                @anant 220: Dude, you are doing good for the first track day.... reminds me of my days on my p150 classic on the track...
                Thank you.That means alot
                will push it a bit next time with the main stand off.Why dont you come down sometime and see us.

                BTW i didnt scrape my main stand at the track,but yesterday near the tasmac in medavakkam i ook a sharp cut on an even road,and Voila !Though my balls were in my mouth for a second or two,it felt amazing

                ps-not amazing cause of balls in my mouth lol
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                • Final set of pics
                  "Never make the mistake of thinking someone is holding you up;that's racing, and you're holding yourself up." - Keith

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                  • hey sajiv the spidi leathers in my possession is the same design as used by one of the superbike riders (reference, your final pix set).

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                    • as i await my vids and pics to be shipped to me on a dvd from chennai i made a little vid as a trailer to the oncoming long one.
                      If interested ahave a look
                      YouTube - MM goes to CSS.wmv
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                      when i ride bullet before my bullet was solid condition but i once race with a Ceilo car and my engine size. mechancic say bullet is good bike but no racing. it is good for three people and very powerful.
                      one day when i become rich i but ducati and then I race with cars. not now.
                      kamlesh kanda
                      NO PACE TOO SLOW
                      IF you're at all going to be a respectable rider one day, leave your pride at the "door."

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                      • Originally posted by TenHut View Post
                        as i await my vids and pics to be shipped to me on a dvd from chennai i made a little vid as a trailer to the oncoming long one.
                        If interested ahave a look
                        YouTube - MM goes to CSS.wmv
                        Nice video...

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                        • Did Sakthi make it to the track? Been a long time since I heard from him..
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                          • Originally posted by TenHut View Post
                            as i await my vids and pics to be shipped to me on a dvd from chennai i made a little vid as a trailer to the oncoming long one.
                            If interested ahave a look
                            YouTube - MM goes to CSS.wmv
                            Niece one i liked it..
                            Faster, faster, faster, until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death.....[:)]

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                            • hey guys have been watchin all the forums of trackdays everytime there is a trackday i so badly wanna hit the track jus 2 get n experience f track on ma p180 the only thing stoppin me is the gadgets n am jus a student n dependent on ma parents n jus blew their pockets after a huge crash so will be there at the track in few trackdays n guys so badly wanna meet u "not ma fault am a bikefreek" -smokyracer alias smorack and guys pls let me know if there are any drag to be conducted in chennai ma id is [email protected]
                              Last edited by abishekkrishna; 03-06-2010, 01:00 AM.
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                              • Originally posted by anants_220 View Post
                                Thank you.That means alot
                                will push it a bit next time with the main stand off.Why dont you come down sometime and see us.

                                BTW i didnt scrape my main stand at the track,but yesterday near the tasmac in medavakkam i ook a sharp cut on an even road,and Voila !Though my balls were in my mouth for a second or two,it felt amazing

                                ps-not amazing cause of balls in my mouth lol
                                Most definitely... I cant wait after seeing the pics from the CSS racing school.. dude, but for me to be track ready will take some time... but next track day i should be able to be behind the lens for sure...

                                you can try toe scraping for a start... that is how i started... feels like to scrape the tip of your shoe on the tarmac ....
                                - WonderBoy
                                http://thetypicalindian.blogspot.com/

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