I disagree somen,

In my opinion it's the sheer performance and fun after the 6000rpm mark that the ninja had, that made it sell rather than a nameplate.

And having ridden one for sometime I can assure you even without abs, the confidence that the ninja's brakes offers is far better than what You feel on the cbr abs

I don't get it why that here in India, we do not get stuff like the ABS even as they are launched as an option in other countries. I for one am disappointed, and the lack of ABS might force me to go for the CBR instead of the ninja. Ninja's brakes maybe confidence inspiring, but still the lack of ABS can lead to trouble in panic braking and may lead to accidents. ABS really helps a lot, especially when riding in a country like India. I'm still going to wait till 2014 to see if there is any chance they are sending the SE version of the N300 with ABS. If its not available by then, I guess I'll have to settle for a CBR

Yeah. I really don't understand in what way it would hurt them by providing an ABS option. It was the same case with 650...

Bro how much difference did you see comparing Ninja and CBR side by side in performance ?
How much top speed difference did you see ? Infact CBR has more better city power compare to Ninja.(New Ninja is been said to be remapped ecu for same)
Merely a difference of 5% -7% in all.

Does Ninja specify that extra 1.3L approx over CBR STD ?

Bro, Who has money he will buy Ninja or Ducati, but a passionate rider with practical investment will buy the product by it's actual weightage comparing with other.
Hardly an average earning person will buy a product which is superior than something by few % and invest double the other.

Just think if CBR would have been with dual piston then ? there would have been a different color!
This is something over statement Bro. Lets keep this out of it, so it doesn't become a battle ground/ debate pages , etc..

I don't need a Debate bro....

But the bottom line is when you spending approx Rs 4L then it should have ABS, which is anytime better than normal braking system!
I have seen the bike and really it looks more appealing then previous with that broader tyres and split headlights! WOW! BUTTTTTTT..... no ABS!!

While I agree that ABS is fast becoming a mandatory equipment on most bikes, I am not convinced about the CBR having any performance parity with the Ninja..old or new.

What most people forget while comparing prices for the Ninja and CBR is that the CBR is a machine that is manufactured here in India while the Ninja is essentially a CKD. The Ninja attracts duties and taxes which the CBR does not. On top of it, the Ninja is a parallel twin as opposed to the single cylinder engine on the CBR. The costs are obviously going to be high. I will not venture into the quality aspect of the CBR as I feel it lacks in quality when compared with the Ninja (again my personal experience).

This is just OT - If you compare the estimated/rumored cost of the yet to be launched Duke 390, it not only betters the CBR in terms of performance but is also a better price bargain (provided it offers ABS).

BTW..not many know that the EU has enforced a legislation which makes it a mandatory requirement to fit antilock braking system (ABS) to all motorcycles that have an engine displacement greater than 125cc. Although the rule comes in place in 2016, it is very much there. Sad to see lack of legislative support here in India.

@ajaysthinkin - please think again - you mean to say Ninja's brakes are so good that its doesn't need ABS

In all fairness Ninja accelerates better,speeds better and brakes better and is a better product unless you compare prices. So if it does everything better why should it be better not safe. And please take into consideration you can buy 2 CBR ABS with the speculated price of Ninja300(without ABS). Irony is even Duke 390 will come in ABS (rumored).

You have to understand - effective brakes and ABS are 2 mutually exclusive things. Would you say BMW bikes had in-effective brakes now that they are trying to make ABS as standard in all their bikes?

I think they could have offered ABS but left it out due to cost and I think it would have definitely added another 25k extra. With both front and rear disc brakes the braking is going to be very very good but of course will not help during emergency. I should say this, though ABS is a safety feature it is not a guarantee that it will save you in emergency, what it will help is prevent locking of brakes. I feel if one is so much relying on ABS for safety they should think again about riding motorcycles.

Totally no offense bro.... i was just penning down my opinions/experience with the two bikes...........
yes, there is no questioning as to the fact that the CBR is much more a value product than the Ninjette.
the reason why the cost for ninja can't come down is because of the complexities in engine/crank design for the twin cyl so the cost for a twin cyl cbr will also be high.
There is a kind of riding aspect to the bike which makes you forget that its eating a 10k extra off your salary every month. again totally my opinion.
and its not fair to write off the ninja as a rich brat's toy as some of my friends went for it even though they to literally squeeze in the Emi each month

Please dont take the following offensive just correcting:

ninja 250r has 29% and ninja 300 has 47% more power than the existing CBR250

"even without abs, the confidence that the ninja's brakes offers is far better than what You feel on the cbr abs"
I don't think this translates to "Ninja doesn't need ABS" My point was just that it has good braking....sorry if the sentence was misleading

and also, i've read that"ABS brakes on bikes are really only effective for upright, straight line stops "

I dont want to compare CBR250R and a Ninja 250R since both are in different leagues here (One is a VFM all rounder, the other is a pure track bred race machine) and it is straight forward why Ninja costs so much (CKD, taxes etc) Was it manufactured in India, it would be a totally different story, (which means Kawasaki has to spend millions on setting up the plant, which they dont want to).

The Ninja 300 ABS variant abroad costs more than $500 extra so with taxes and stuff, the cost will hit almost 4.5L mark here! Do you really think people would go for it??

But I dont see why they cant keep it optional! Whoever wants can opt for it.


PS : Anyone who hasn't ridden the Ninja, please dont comment on its brakes! All I will say is you are in for a biggg surprise when you ride one!

Bro, ABS is designed exactly for that particular purpose. To help in bringing your bike/vehicle to a quick, safe stop when in times of panic. If its not going to guarantee that, do you think people would even bother to shell out loads of money for that? The no. of vehicles on the roads are increasing by the day and the majority of the people driving here in our country seem to have no driving etiquette and road discipline, not to mention the bad condition of our roads. In a country like India, when you are going to get a high performance machine, its best to get one that has an ABS. Ofcourse your own braking skill will help you in a lot of situations, but it won't equate to an ABS equipped machine. Having a good braking skill along with the ABS will only help you further in panic situations.
You can't compare a Duke 390 with a CBR just like you can't compare the Ninja 300 with the Duke. Going by your perception, the Duke 390 is better than Ninja with more power and the ABS, and at a price less than half of it. But that won't attract people who would want to tour/ go out on the highways excessively.

But last i heard, the Duke is excellent for touring with the upright position and nimble handling....

You can tour it, but it can't match the CBR, in terms of comfort and high speed cruising. Caz I've heard from the owners that its a bit unsettling post 120, while you can cruise on the CBR easily on 120s same goes for the Ninja. Mainly because Ninja, CBR have the advantage of those fairings for tearing through air and windshield to protect you from windblast, as well as the added weight for stability.

I rest my case and in no mood to debate and also don't want to make this an ABS thread .
I advocate ABS after a first-hand incident which happened to me in a car a few weeks back and after that I have vowed to buy any vehicle (2 or 4 wheels) with ABS or else not.