The Ninja 300 has been launched in India at 3.5 lacs ex-showroom Delhi.

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I don't see any grab rails for the pillion?

While what you say is true at large, people need better mannerism and road etiquette than anything else at the moment. I for starters believe that ABS should be made mandatory for all vehicles from 200 CC and above.

Ideally, I hate follow up posts for clarity as the forum becomes more of a debate oriented place. However for the sake of clarity to all who might have misconstrued my post, please read the post again. I am talking of a value proposition. the post that I was referring to mentioned the CBR's low torque + ABS + city commuting advantage over the Ninja.
I for one believe that the Duke is more of a city tool than the CBR and going in the same vein, I feel that the Duke siblings (200 + 390 when introduced with ABS) will be a better value proposition than the CBR for a specific audience. I have not compared the Duke with the Ninja cause they are incomparable like apples and oranges.

All said, you are entitled to you own perception on positioning of a product.

Ninja 300 in chennai.

Ninja 300 Startup & revv...

Ninja 300 in chennai.

Ninja 300 Walkaround.

As for the ABS, i work for an Indian automotive company and had a small discussion over phone with a component development guy for ABS at our company.......he was of the opinion that ABS is not as important as for cars when it comes to bikes as its effectiveness is greatly depended upon the bike's position during actual braking conditions and that this was one of the reasons that most supersports are sold with an ABS as well as non ABS version.......again its something from a normal engineer guy not some clearly defined fact......

@nelson
No one is here to demonstrate their prowess here bro.....no one can have absolute knowledge,
debates on the forum are meant to be productive and if any of mine or even other's posts were different from your views, please take it as individuals expressing their opinions.......
Really sorry if anything made you feel bad
Cheers

I rest my case and in no mood to debate and also don't want to make this an ABS thread .
I advocate ABS after a first-hand incident which happened to me in a car a few weeks back and after that I have vowed to buy any vehicle (2 or 4 wheels) with ABS or else not.

You can tour it, but it can't match the CBR, in terms of comfort and high speed cruising. Caz I've heard from the owners that its a bit unsettling post 120, while you can cruise on the CBR easily on 120s same goes for the Ninja. Mainly because Ninja, CBR have the advantage of those fairings for tearing through air and windshield to protect you from windblast, as well as the added weight for stability.

But last i heard, the Duke is excellent for touring with the upright position and nimble handling....

Bro, ABS is designed exactly for that particular purpose. To help in bringing your bike/vehicle to a quick, safe stop when in times of panic. If its not going to guarantee that, do you think people would even bother to shell out loads of money for that? The no. of vehicles on the roads are increasing by the day and the majority of the people driving here in our country seem to have no driving etiquette and road discipline, not to mention the bad condition of our roads. In a country like India, when you are going to get a high performance machine, its best to get one that has an ABS. Ofcourse your own braking skill will help you in a lot of situations, but it won't equate to an ABS equipped machine. Having a good braking skill along with the ABS will only help you further in panic situations.
You can't compare a Duke 390 with a CBR just like you can't compare the Ninja 300 with the Duke. Going by your perception, the Duke 390 is better than Ninja with more power and the ABS, and at a price less than half of it. But that won't attract people who would want to tour/ go out on the highways excessively.

I dont want to compare CBR250R and a Ninja 250R since both are in different leagues here (One is a VFM all rounder, the other is a pure track bred race machine) and it is straight forward why Ninja costs so much (CKD, taxes etc) Was it manufactured in India, it would be a totally different story, (which means Kawasaki has to spend millions on setting up the plant, which they dont want to).

The Ninja 300 ABS variant abroad costs more than $500 extra so with taxes and stuff, the cost will hit almost 4.5L mark here! Do you really think people would go for it??

But I dont see why they cant keep it optional! Whoever wants can opt for it.


PS : Anyone who hasn't ridden the Ninja, please dont comment on its brakes! All I will say is you are in for a biggg surprise when you ride one!

and also, i've read that"ABS brakes on bikes are really only effective for upright, straight line stops "

"even without abs, the confidence that the ninja's brakes offers is far better than what You feel on the cbr abs"
I don't think this translates to "Ninja doesn't need ABS" My point was just that it has good braking....sorry if the sentence was misleading

Totally no offense bro.... i was just penning down my opinions/experience with the two bikes...........
yes, there is no questioning as to the fact that the CBR is much more a value product than the Ninjette.
the reason why the cost for ninja can't come down is because of the complexities in engine/crank design for the twin cyl so the cost for a twin cyl cbr will also be high.
There is a kind of riding aspect to the bike which makes you forget that its eating a 10k extra off your salary every month. again totally my opinion.
and its not fair to write off the ninja as a rich brat's toy as some of my friends went for it even though they to literally squeeze in the Emi each month

Please dont take the following offensive just correcting:

ninja 250r has 29% and ninja 300 has 47% more power than the existing CBR250