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KTM RC 200 & 390 Launch, on 9 September, 2014, deliveries from October: xBhp News

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  • kochumvk
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    Re: KTM RC 390 Launch confirmed: xBhp News

    Originally posted by pcgamer View Post
    Two types of test bikes are spotted. One with indicators on mirrors, other on fairings. I hope the final version is released with rvm mounted ones. It is a feature that only a few bikes have. It'll also make the 'heroes' who remove the RVMs think twice.

    In the city I am living, both RVMs and indicators are generally not used. RVMs are replaced with a pair of sharp metal thing. indicators are left as is, but they never use it.

    So may be this time its a double advantage for the morons!
    Good thing is if they are selling it cheap , we can have cheaper replacements after a fall!

    I am learning to think positively

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  • pcgamer
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    Originally posted by rusty_mechs View Post
    Is it from some reliable source? I hope they launch the bikes earlier. I am certainly not going to wait till late september. At most I can wait till mid july perhaps otherwise I will simply buy a D 390.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using xBhp Connect mobile app
    I had read somewhere that the RC390 will follow cycles similar to what Duke followed a year ago. So, I won't be surprised if deliveries start in September.

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  • rusty_mechs
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    Re: KTM RC 390 Launch confirmed: xBhp News

    Originally posted by sasnoopy22 View Post
    Deliveries of RC 390 will not commence before late September, Early October in India i.e. near the festive season.
    The earlier lots will be exported to European Markets
    Bookings may commence by July-August

    Is it from some reliable source? I hope they launch the bikes earlier. I am certainly not going to wait till late september. At most I can wait till mid july perhaps otherwise I will simply buy a D 390.

    Sent from my GT-I9100 using xBhp Connect mobile app

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  • tusilal
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    Love the bikes in the video but they should have thought about using new tyres while shooting the tyre close up.
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  • sasnoopy22
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    Deliveries of RC 390 will not commence before late September, Early October in India i.e. near the festive season.
    The earlier lots will be exported to European Markets
    Bookings may commence by July-August

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  • Doga
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    Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
    I would like to share my humble thoughts on the topic... Firstly, we're mostly on the streets where there's no legal competition going on. There, such things don't matter. On racetrack, ok fair enough.

    But believe me, comparing these 2 bikes is not that easy as comparing 2 power values. I've ridden the Ninja 250R on road, and my own Duke 390 on the Racetrack (BIC)... And for learning purposes, I would still prefer Ninja (if considering engine only).

    Reason being that, Duke has a smaller power spread, with high power output, combined with the light weight, so if you miss the shift at the max power spot, you will most likely hit the limiter in an instant & lose momentum in a snap. At BIC on 15 March, most riders were hitting limiters very often, even on straights, and good shifting helped me gain some momentum in some parts of the track. (Of course, those were not professional riders but still...)

    However, you can overrev the Ninja 250R (probably the 300R also) significantly beyond the maximum power point, without losing significant amount of power. On the track, its a big advantage,
    Firstly, because mostly you don't lose much momentum when you goof up a shift, as some variations in shift up rpm won't matter that much,
    Secondly because overrev helps, if you're about to slowdown for a corner ahead, but still have some distance left before you do so, then you can choose to overrev in the same gear (instead of upshifting and then waste time downshifting again). In milliseconds, it matters a lot.

    This is all practical stuff, something that actually happens but doesn't show on paper, because no human rider can give computer like performance, (or not all human riders). A stock Duke (probably RC) rider might lose momentum instantly on goofing up a shift. Even if human error is 0%, then too overrev is more favorable, for the cornering reason I mentioned in the last paragraph.

    So, while Duke rider will concentrate more on shifting, the Ninja rider can instead focus on other important aspects like racing line, corners, etc.
    Yes, 70 extra cc's may be justified. But beware, Ninja (or a similar parallel twin) might still come out advantageous on a certain kind of racetrack, more so if it is modified for more power... All depends on the final tuning of the RC 390 though.

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    That said, I'm happy at how things are turning out for the Indian biker. RC 390 is not just going to be a fast machine, its going to be one uniquely designed machine too. Yes, maybe, quality is not one of the strong points of KTM in India, specially when compared against Kawasaki. But, from my experience, I didn't notice any deficiency big enough to build a strong argument against KTM. I do believe that RC should fare better than Duke in this aspect.
    The way faired bikes grab attention, RC's not going to be for me though, and my Duke is doing well enough. But, wishing KTM all the best anyways!
    valid points there Samarth. A higher revving engine would have its advantage. Other than the scenarios you mentioned, tracks which have long straights would also favour the higher revver. Besides the layout of the track decides what kind of handling characteristics are favoured. Ease of cornering in or ease of cornering out.

    Tracks with many corners would favour torque low down which the RC would fancy given the diff (35NM/7250rpm vs 23.67/9750). I am assuming the torque curves remain more or less linear.

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  • Samarth 619
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    Originally posted by jackofsome View Post
    i wanted to comment on this post of yours somehow.
    regarding the displacement-
    less cylinders equates less power. thats why world over when 1000cc inline 4s are allowed, they give an extra 200cc to the twins to be in the same class. in this respect the rc should be given a fair chance to compete coz with the N300 jus coz it has a cylinder less. now thats a different matter that it produces a monstrous 43.5 bhp(relatively). it should be and is indeed being compared to the ninja. now coming to quality its a different ballgame altogether

    but you cannot take away this fact that the RC wins here after compared.
    I would like to share my humble thoughts on the topic... Firstly, we're mostly on the streets where there's no legal competition going on. There, such things don't matter. On racetrack, ok fair enough.

    But believe me, comparing these 2 bikes is not that easy as comparing 2 power values. I've ridden the Ninja 250R on road, and my own Duke 390 on the Racetrack (BIC)... And for learning purposes, I would still prefer Ninja (if considering engine only).

    Reason being that, Duke has a smaller power spread, with high power output, combined with the light weight, so if you miss the shift at the max power spot, you will most likely hit the limiter in an instant & lose momentum in a snap. At BIC on 15 March, most riders were hitting limiters very often, even on straights, and good shifting helped me gain some momentum in some parts of the track. (Of course, those were not professional riders but still...)

    However, you can overrev the Ninja 250R (probably the 300R also) significantly beyond the maximum power point, without losing significant amount of power. On the track, its a big advantage,
    Firstly, because mostly you don't lose much momentum when you goof up a shift, as some variations in shift up rpm won't matter that much,
    Secondly because overrev helps, if you're about to slowdown for a corner ahead, but still have some distance left before you do so, then you can choose to overrev in the same gear (instead of upshifting and then waste time downshifting again). In milliseconds, it matters a lot.

    This is all practical stuff, something that actually happens but doesn't show on paper, because no human rider can give computer like performance, (or not all human riders). A stock Duke (probably RC) rider might lose momentum instantly on goofing up a shift. Even if human error is 0%, then too overrev is more favorable, for the cornering reason I mentioned in the last paragraph.

    So, while Duke rider will concentrate more on shifting, the Ninja rider can instead focus on other important aspects like racing line, corners, etc.
    Yes, 70 extra cc's may be justified. But beware, Ninja (or a similar parallel twin) might still come out advantageous on a certain kind of racetrack, more so if it is modified for more power... All depends on the final tuning of the RC 390 though.

    --
    That said, I'm happy at how things are turning out for the Indian biker. RC 390 is not just going to be a fast machine, its going to be one uniquely designed machine too. Yes, maybe, quality is not one of the strong points of KTM in India, specially when compared against Kawasaki. But, from my experience, I didn't notice any deficiency big enough to build a strong argument against KTM. I do believe that RC should fare better than Duke in this aspect.
    The way faired bikes grab attention, RC's not going to be for me though, and my Duke is doing well enough. But, wishing KTM all the best anyways!

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  • stefanm
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    ^^You mean just "found" I guess? it's an old video, those headlamps are definitely halogens imho (hope i am wrong), disappointing but the bike is still sexy no doubt.

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  • chickyheart
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    2014 new KTM RC125 RC200 & RC 390 All New and Ready To Race promo video - YouTube

    just find this video.

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  • Jitu Badlani
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    One more from Derestricted!!
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    According to official Kiska (they are designers for KTM) fb page they are preparing a video for the RC Series just like they made one for Super Duke, (The Birth of "The Beast" ) :thumbup:

    *Drop a Gear & Disappear*

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  • csajal
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    Originally posted by stefanm View Post
    KTM are seriously trying to hit up the flip flop and pyjama brigade, don't think I can take these jokers (Company seriously) now, seriously shameful!
    Chill dude... This is India where everyone wants to pose on a cool motorcycle (and then ***** about at the back as to how unpractical and useless the bike is)

    This can very well be a couple of guys posing on the cool looking motorcycle (maybe some close known of the Bajaj tester testing the bike) and then someone clicked the pic and then cropped it and then circulated it.... so, no point in thinking that KTM is trying to woo flip flop and pyjama brigade because at 2+, it's still pretty premium.

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  • jackofsome
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    wow the front end looks menacing.
    its so much more refreshing than the typical twin headlamp copy paste job.
    even the bodywork looks substantial from the front!:beer:

    Sent from my XT1033 using xBhp Connect mobile app

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  • sparky
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    yeew, that front extension of the base of headlamp looks like a flapping tongue. If there is way to cut it off or put in a glass/plastic shield to cover that hollow then it should be ok.

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  • stefanm
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    KTM are seriously trying to hit up the flip flop and pyjama brigade, don't think I can take these jokers (Company seriously) now, seriously shameful!

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  • pcgamer
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    More to add to the never ending test pics.

    Pyjama pillion
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