Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125; 250cc MT-25 Very Likely

Is it the photos or is the engine looking too big for 125cc ? The bike looks really stunning.

Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125; 250cc MT-25 Very Likely

The sooner, the better. And please Yamaha, don't make it another R25! India is still waiting for the successor of RD350!

Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125; 250cc MT-25 Very Likely

princeji itna acha design hai exhaust toh ignore kar hi sakte hai
no one has seen such beautiful design on a 125cc
I love the exhaust its neat

Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125; 250cc MT-25 Very Likely

till then we have r15 and fz in 15 colors and variants and yamaha ray-z,sigh!i dont want to be a cynic,but i frown everytime comparing global yamaha products to ours,we are not much worse off than brazil in economy,yet we dont have many exciting bikes even in 150-250cc from yamaha and suzuki.once in a decade a good bike comes(rx-enticer-r15),which reminds me its actually about time....

Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125; 250cc MT-25 Very Likely

Wow, this was unexpected from Yamaha. So they have already built their wall very very strong against the Duke 125 and the upcoming RC125.

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So some still thinks there is market for premium 125s in India!

Is next government planning some serious change in DL system?



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Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125 (250cc MT-25 Very Likely)

Globally, yamaha have rolled out this euro centric dirtbikish design to replace their earlier fz design...the question is, would this be a replacement of the fz series in India? But then there are rumours of a bigger fz already being tested, which would mean this would not come anytime soon.If they decide to launch it as MT,then they'd keep the existing fz as a commuter option but either way ut would take its own sweet time.not before 2017 for sure.This is yamaha we are talking about😉

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Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125 (250cc MT-25 Very Likely)

if Yamaha is going to launch MT-125 in India and is serious about something like MT-25 then its a good news for Yamaha lovers who are just bored of Yamaha scooter launchings and colour variants launchings of the existing R15 and FZ16. Yamaha is the old king of Indian market but they lost there place to bajaj.

Re: Yamaha Unveils New MT-125 (250cc MT-25 Very Likely)

It seems MT125 will be launched in India in 2015 @ 80 k....someone told me this as announced by a Radio channel in the Gulf strange !!

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Disclaimer: Not ranting here, just stating facts. anyone thinking that i am ranting, then you have a serious problem with your brain.

Sexy machine though i would love to ride one, i wouldnt want to own one. well past that 125cc time. haivng fun on 150cc and preparing for a 250

ok so MT125 comes out and the next minute we hear is people are thinking asking for MT25? :/ seriously ? heights of wanting when only few buy of those many ask for it.

There is no market for these performance oriented 125cc's in india. no wonder Duke125 and R125 didnt get launched here, they are entry level bikes in European countries. But here these bikes will be a "excuse" for people to ride crazy on streets. Period .
Anyone expecting these 125ccs to be launched here: Please stop dreaming and craving.
anyone expecting a MT250: who wouldn't want it but its too kiddish to even ask for it or even talk about it. would we talk abt something thats not existing yet? People wanted R25, here its in flesh and being tested and spy pics all over internet, and suddenly no one cares after months and years of whining over it to be launched. :/ meh

No offence, have to taken the market analysis job? and even know whats the units being sold of which bike? A manufacturer wants to sell bikes, irrespective of which bike he sells. be it a puny scooter or a big bike, he cares for wats being sold in huge numbers rather than who is taking it. if you are one of the person who think that a performance machine sell better based on CC then read this" a P220 sells more than a P220ns (at least in bangalore). why? "220 cc for 80k and a 200 cc for 1L" mentality

Yamaha is focusing on scooters for year 2013 and 2014. all these years they focused on bikes, they took 2 years to establish themselves in scooter market. and its working for them. we dont own right to ask any manufacturer to ask why they are not getting the particular bike.

As far as the r25 launch goes. yamaha is loaded with many bikes at their current factory. so even if they get the r25 now (i mean right now), they ll have to stop manufacturing certain numbers of other bikes to accommodate the r25 production, thus getting their sales less for other established products and making the waiting period longer. so their chennai fatory will be up and running by first quarter 2015 which will ease their manufacturing load, and i am not telling this by my self, this straight comes from a old and established Yamaha dealer here. If you want to know more about how these things work i would suggest you to sit with a good and established dealer and talk with him to get answers.

FYI R25 testing starting in india in a months time. Now please understand that "testing" is important for indian conditions. and yamaha is known for proper testing for a longer period of time. so expect a good product and have patience.

Yes FI Fz is being launched in few days. but the problem here is it might cost few thousands more. Which a commuter'ish guy wont understand and hence will say. "so much for a 150cc" and still wont stop cribbing its like they want to marry scarlet and want her to cook and wash clothes LOL

no offence again to anyone, but more than fruitful discussion all we see is "why this bike is not here, when is it coming, why are they not launching" blah blah. is this forum for asking bikes or talking about bikes and experience and sharing things ? :/

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I do agree with your point of the higher CC, cheaper price better mentality that many folks have, but common, tell me man , R15 launched in 2008-09 if i'm not wrong. Around that time, was there any other performance bike in the same segment ? off the top of my head, there was just P220, P200, Karizma ( all >= 200CC ) an yet the 150cc engine of the R15 was able to beat them in performance. Agreed ? Even then, r15 did become popular , grabbed a good share of the market , albeit not major, but a significant. So there are a lot of people who do go for the bike based on performance. I'm sure many did go for the looks too. R125 was in production and available in other markets at the same time r15 launched.

But it didn't come to India, cause r15 was doing fairly good. Next came cbr250, much costlier than the r15 ( i bought my r15 from chandigarh in 2010 at Rs99,000 , CBR retailed at 1.5lac) yet yamaha did not do anything and why should they.The price difference is quite significant. Then after some time came the dukes an etc etc , but Yamaha remained with r15. Now tell me, had the r125 launched ( which is good performance vise as well as aesthetically: eg wider tyres, the biggest eye sore that every layman felt when r15 was launched ) much before the dukes, wouldn't Yamaha had a better hold of the market ?
See, I'm no market analyst , i'm the simple common man, wanting to clean his house ( oh wait...going OT), but what i feel is, had the R125 launched before Duke, or atleast after Duke 125, they would've got a stiff competition. Please note, i'm no expert, i just strongly feel, that Yamaha has relied all its hopes on the r15 , in the performance segment, and has kinda , i dont know what reason, lazy maybe not taken a step further to compete
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ok you didnt read my post correctly.

1. Yamaha does not have that capacity to manufacture right now. so they are getting their facility up and ready for the same.
2. and again i say, 125 performance segment is not made for india. there is absolutely no market. selling 100bikes is not a marketing achievement.
3. when r15 was launched there was a good market of 150 CC's. actually if you look at it yamaha was late that time too. but still fz and r15 sell. though the arrival of ktm and few other bikes have brought down the sales of r15 and fz, its not so bad that people project it.
4. so you mean just because honda got the cbr250 even yamaha should have got the r25? LOL
5. The launch of r125 (if it had happened) would not have made any impact on duke200 sales. think over this properly. i cant type so much to explain why.

Yamaha had a 250cc mill from long time. they could have just taken the r15 chassis and plonked the 250 on it and given to us in neatly wrapped birthday cover. They chose to make a new engine, new chassis, new design to compete Ninja250/300 in global market. and India is not "Global" for yamaha. they will take "global" market into consideration. yamaha does not survive on india alone. FYI r15 is exported to japan, australia, indonesia and few other countries. People need thigns fast, but dont know what it takes to get a good product to last long. Atleast they didnt choose to keep same bike design and change CCs and launch. all R series bike look different.

People want a inverted forks, but have no idea why its needed. People want thick tyre, but have no idea how will a size of tyre matter in different cases. people want FI but wont accept price rise. people want many things and yet dont know how thigns work and crib about it.

PS: i am waiting for the 250 as well. but will wait for the proper launch and specs and then think if i am gonna crib over it or not. because like many others, even i am restless for it.

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Nice to know it's being exported to Japan.
Why do we need it?

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Sir i agree on all points except the ones quoted above. I have never stated, or if by mistake have implied the same, then my apologies.
The rationale behind suggesting the launch of CBR was that if you look at the price point of view, r15 and CBR250 were about 50k apart, hence yamaha did not feel 'much' insecure by the launch of CBR.
As far as duke125 ( not 200 ) is concerned, common, a Yamaha 125 already existing in the market, ( hypothetically if it was launched before ), should have been a real concern for duke 125 !!! For starters, I mean common, Yamaha , a brand in itself is good enough to convince yourself or your parents because of its presence , performance and reliability in India for a very long time. ( that's how i convinced my dad who had a RX 100 for about 10 years ).

Also, "125 performance segment is not made for india." I'ts a statement you are asserting, but i cannot fathom the rationale behind it. Honestly.

I do agree about the cribbing part which is mostly unwarranted though even here you cannot dump all the blame to the "commuter-ish" people as you put it. Its basic human nature. Since you are so well versed with the whole biking world, maybe you find all the cribbing silly, but everyone cribs for something or the other. We all crib for an Emma-Watson'ish gf, but have we ever understood women ? No, sir, we have not. :P

I'd also like to know as @SparKot mentions, why we need inverted forks ?

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to be honest i have no idea why such euphoria over them. rode the duke200, i didnt even realize a thing about the impact of inverted forks when i was riding it (i obviously knew it has inverted forks). technically it reduces the weight thats suspended near tyres (thats wat i kno). and ya, if there is any damage to the oil seals inside, then oil drips all over. i did realise that people just want it for "looks".

@joshi.varun91 stop calling me sir man if anyone in my biker friends circle read this line "Since you are so well versed with the whole biking world" i will get beaten up here ha ha ha. me a noob. all i say is what i know from conversations with bikers around and experience. nothing else. i might have told few wrong info also which i might be unaware of, so others please excuse me for that.

we have gone enough OT. i think lets rest the topic here. @Divya Sharan bhai, please feel free to delete posts