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**RoyalIndian** · 01-13-2016, 10:11 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

What he is trying to say is that there are certain cases where a bike when launched might have some manufacturing defects or any like it.for eg when the Duke was launched it has major issues which has been ironed now.

Yes but before the Duke launched we never had any information regarding whether the bikes were being tested or not.

RTR200 has been under testing for almost 6 months now.

Also PILOT LAMPS TEASED

**Harideep** · 01-13-2016, 10:16 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by xplod566 View Post

What he is trying to say is that there are certain cases where a bike when launched might have some manufacturing defects or any like it.for eg when the Duke was launched it has major issues which has been ironed now.

You got my point

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Gixxer also had got Rusting issue, which is being resolved after some batch production. NS thread, I saw Left swaying issue later batch it has been resolved.
These incidence have made me to think like that.

**xplod566** · 01-13-2016, 10:29 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by Harideep View Post

You got my point

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Gixxer also had got Rusting issue, which is being resolved after some batch production. NS thread, I saw Left swaying issue later batch it has been resolved.
These incidence have made me to think like that.

I have an AS and it also sways .but only when u leave d handlebars.but at very slow speeds.
Rs doesn't have any.but before buying you can check with ur vehicle if it happens.
Trust Me and go for it.don't think much..its FI and throttle response is awesome on it.yes every bike will have some issues but definitely u can overcome it.
.RS has twin projectors,brute power,heavy means excellent stability on high speeds and many more.trust me the projectors and FI itself make it look a great deal.
Its the natural tendency if human being-if you find something better you won't step into the good thing....you know what I mean [emoji4]

**ssrraghav** · 01-13-2016, 10:37 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Wait for tvs until its launched... We all can gossip and rumour and on road the situation might be entirely different... Let it launch... It's a long tested vehicle... So, definitely issues would be minor only...

**prsntmsra** · 01-14-2016, 01:05 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Spotted Apache RTR 200 today (14th Jan), completely covered being tested on Delhi Roads with TN number plate (temp). Spotted today at 10:42am on Akshardham, Nizamuddin Road.

**xplod566** · 01-14-2016, 06:13 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by prsntmsra View Post

Spotted Apache RTR 200 today (14th Jan), completely covered being tested on Delhi Roads with TN number plate (temp). Spotted today at 10:42am on Akshardham, Nizamuddin Road.[ATTACH]201710[/ATTACH]

Nice one bro.

**Harideep** · 01-14-2016, 09:48 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by prsntmsra View Post

Spotted Apache RTR 200 today (14th Jan), completely covered being tested on Delhi Roads with TN number plate (temp). Spotted today at 10:42am on Akshardham, Nizamuddin Road.[ATTACH]201710[/ATTACH]

Did they rode from TN to Delhi

**Deamon0508** · 01-14-2016, 09:48 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

I'm reading that it'll have close to 28PS (~27 Bhp), but an air cooled, oil cooled engine doesn't have the volumetric efficiency of a liquid cooled engine, any thoughts ? I'd safely say, something between 20-23 Bhp, maximus. Although, if they combine that with a lower weight than D200, I'd say it'll be a close call in a sprint. IMO it's not unrealistic to expect it to weigh less since it doesn't have to contend with a radiator and water jacket and all the hardware for liquid cooling.

I'm watching with space eagerly.

**Vignesh vnktrmn** · 01-15-2016, 07:21 AM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by Deamon0508 View Post

I'm reading that it'll have close to 28PS (~27 Bhp), but an air cooled, oil cooled engine doesn't have the volumetric efficiency of a liquid cooled engine, any thoughts ? I'd safely say, something between 20-23 Bhp, maximus. Although, if they combine that with a lower weight than D200, I'd say it'll be a close call in a sprint. IMO it's not unrealistic to expect it to weigh less since it doesn't have to contend with a radiator and water jacket and all the hardware for liquid cooling.

I'm watching with space eagerly.

I am not sure if not having a liquid cooling system affects the volumetric efficiency to a very large extent. 26 HP from a 200cc 4 stroke is not an extreme state of tune.

**Sandeep Kh** · 01-15-2016, 11:57 AM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

if it's 6geared I will pick it

**bbsrailfan** · 01-15-2016, 07:13 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by RoyalIndian

You tell me

Originally posted by Deamon0508

Isn't a clip-on anything which allows rake and reach adjustment ? I never knew if they're related to the mounting points.

Rake and Reach adjustment? That applies to the steering column of a car and not a motorcycle handlebar.
BTW There are no 'faux' clip ons. By definition, a "clip-on" is something which is clamped directly to the fork tube. The difference is most evident in the below pics. The CBR's handlebars are directly clamped to the fork tube. The 200NS handlebars are bolted on to the triple tree.

**RoyalIndian** · 01-15-2016, 07:39 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Rake and Reach adjustment? That applies to the steering column of a car and not a motorcycle handlebar.
BTW There are no 'faux' clip ons. By definition, a "clip-on" is something which is clamped directly to the fork tube. The difference is most evident in the below pics. The CBR's handlebars are directly clamped to the fork tube. The 200NS handlebars are bolted on to the triple tree.

Faux Clip-ons are very much a thing. Instead of calling them "2 piece handle bars attached to the yoke, inline with the Forks", the motoring community loosely calls them Faux Clip-ons

The difference is that True clip-ons are attached to the forks directly (as you said) and dont need additional parts to hold them and they are adjustable depending on the riders needs.

Faux clips-ons are just fancy 2 piece handle bars that essentially do the same function as a single piece handlebar.

Take Ninja 300 for example, its got Faux clip-ons.

What does Faux mean?

1. False
2. Made in Imitation (of something)

**JS16** · 01-15-2016, 07:41 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Rake and Reach adjustment? That applies to the steering column of a car and not a motorcycle handlebar.
BTW There are no 'faux' clip ons. By definition, a "clip-on" is something which is clamped directly to the fork tube. The difference is most evident in the below pics. The CBR's handlebars are directly clamped to the fork tube. The 200NS handlebars are bolted on to the triple tree.

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Agreed. Thanks for the pics mate. I gave the same explanation but I was asked to check. Anyway, Thanks again!
Cheers

**Deamon0508** · 01-15-2016, 07:50 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by bbsrailfan View Post

Rake and Reach adjustment? That applies to the steering column of a car and not a motorcycle handlebar.
BTW There are no 'faux' clip ons. By definition, a "clip-on" is something which is clamped directly to the fork tube. The difference is most evident in the below pics. The CBR's handlebars are directly clamped to the fork tube. The 200NS handlebars are bolted on to the triple tree.

You know what I mean, if you change the angle of the handlebar, it does imply rake and reach for motorcycles, I was more in line with the non-technicalities when I said it, I understand.

Also, the Faux clip-ons, yes, you're right, no right minded person can adjust the handlebars on the NS, so yes, faux clip-ons, that's a thing. Funny how manufacturers treat the buyers like cattle, why not just give a sturdy flat handle bar instead of a clip on without any adjustability.

Cheers !

**bbsrailfan** · 01-15-2016, 08:11 PM

Re: Apache RTR 200 - Launches on 20th Jan?

Originally posted by RoyalIndian View Post

Faux Clip-ons are very much a thing. Instead of calling them "2 piece handle bars attached to the yoke, inline with the Forks", the motoring community loosely calls them Faux Clip-ons

Originally posted by Deamon0508 View Post

Also, the Faux clip-ons, yes, you're right, no right minded person can adjust the handlebars on the NS, so yes, faux clip-ons, that's a thing.

Without any further attempts to hijack this thread and redirect the discussion, I'd just say, it is either a clipon, or not a clipon. So if you ask for my own opinion, I wouldn't say that "The NS200 has faux clip-ons." - I'd rather say "The NS200 does not have clip-ons". Throughout the whole motorcycling community, the term "faux clipon" has never been used. You may check out international forums for that matter.

However, I was quite intrigued by this new word, and I did a google search - Surprise - there is only one motoring website which has actually referred to the name "Faux clip-ons" - and that's some site called "BikesIndia" Initially I thought it was BikeIndia conjuring up such a term...but no, this BikesIndia seems to be as faux as it's faux clipons.

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