Special.. well everything is special about this FZ.. what Yamaha says is true, its out in the open & to be riddern...unless ur riding skills are limited to appreciate only one bike!! RTR is excellent too no doubt but in styling its not up on top.

Yeah FZ-16 is a rip off of FZ1 & 6.. still this gives it a unique styling in its segment.. Oh yeah..unlike the P150, 180, 200, 220.. same darn boring styling across the line-up.. tail section taken straight from suzuki SV650s... man they could hv got a little more creative & designed a tail of their own!!

Earlier it was top end power & the that igniting of the "right wrist".. and now u've got stoned on "torque"!! Hehe

Congrats.. let us know ur experience

Allow me to completely disagree with you brother. Yamaha being a global giant should have been smart enough to wrest the market from other manufacturers with some quality products but they were not even able to held on to what they had. What appears a wonderful product can runout of steam in seconds if we were to get a better product. Not too long back we were completely in love with the Pulsars and yes I would say that they were a revolution when launched initially with the quality levels unheard of at that time. Yes it was stupid by Bajaj to become arrogant and ignorant of the bikers/market sentiments and they are paying the price for it but its not like FZ is an all conquering bike like you profess it to be. The bike is presently selling only due to good looks and in near future it will have neither the virtues of power nor the fuel efficiency to save its skin. And last but not the least its not, I repeat its not a "torquey" bike by any standards. Thats a pure media gimmick

whether it is torquey to u or not , the bike still is selling better than others and meeting yam's expectations.
Thats the baseline.
thats all they want.

They are just reading this thread with pop corn :-D

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A torquey mill is not one that sounds loud or sends vibes through your body when accelerating... I am not gonna start a 'gyan' session though but the FZ16 is decently torquey compared to other offerings in the market... the problem is that it possibly is "not the best" or "not the best by a fair margin". But all that is very fine with the amazing balance it provides in terms of power, looks, handling and when used well in fuel economy too...

But this might become a looser in the long run if the fuel economy is really below 40 KMPL for most customers under normal city use.

Right said.... competition for Fz can come.. oppsie, has to come from Yamaha, or prolly Honda cause others just cant make decent bikes... lets wait and stop crib'n'cry'n'whine !!!!!!

On a serious note, Fz is just one performance upgrade away. With the look of the way YMIL is working. There are negatives in Fz as do other bikes have, but then the plues in the Fz weigh heavier than the negatives. Im sure the performance upgrade isnt far away.

Bro.. I disagree with u COMPLETELY.. Yes pulsars were a revolution but the quality levels even then were worse.. poor as always, They were never close to "unheard of at that time". CBZ & Karizma always had much better build quality.

I don't profess it to be all conquering, & Media gimmick?? what kind of torque are we talking about in a 150cc anyway?? What about a descent balance in everything a bike does with no nonsense!!

Then you gotta go with the Suzuki GS150R

Right.. but i was talking about FZ anyway. Haven't got a chance to ride the GS yet!

Suzuki GS150R is just another bike, completely lost in the crowd.

Sen Sahab, Karizma was launched after Pulsars. CBZ was sent to deathbed by the Pulsars and Karizma was almost an aborted attempt till they reduced the price by some nine grands, which did not exactly sent the sales charts on fire. Pulsars were the best breed at that time except for the eliminator that came directly from Japs and they also had the price factor on their side and they were ruling the streets till very last when they lost out in the race just like the old bajaj chetak in a very rapid manner. The problem was with the way Bajaj started sitting on the product which completely went against them. Your point abt CBZ being a better bike is completely baffling. The bike had a harsh engine and was nowhere in the league of Pulsars. Yamaha have come up with very good bikes and there is just no doubt abt it. All that I dont want now after having ridden a 180 for more then 6 years is a bike that I ride for its looks. NO, I want a bike for pure adrenaline pleasure becoz I am not a regular commuter and thats the reason I am at XBHP.
Take it light and fire some rockets at me now

Ok, let's not go OT with ZMAs, Pulsars, etc. Guys, saw that new FZ-S advert?

Both the bikes were visually enlarged in the Y-Axis (were made to look longer in the advert). It seemed kind of funny.

The last scene showing a very slow burnout, was good, hinting at the fact that Yamaha know very well, that FZ's are used for stunting too...

Pulsars became a hit over the classic CBZ at that time because people got something cheap and slightly better mileage....most people hated CBZs low mileage at that time!

Then also, pulsars had the worst product quality in its class, courtesy worst gear box, suspension and chassis. CBZ did have the harsh engine but anytime had much better suspension and chassis combination.

People just wanted something cheap, and bajaj pulsar was that product...yes, believe it or not, people didnt really care about quality at that time. And quality is the same reason why pulsars are at the bottom of the sales charts today...thanks to the like of Unicorn!!!

Whereas Karizma is concerned, there was nothing like Karizma then in the indian market and 85k was a big amount for most people but not now comparatively. And yes, reducing the prices didn't set its sales starts afire but lately P200 and P220 combined couldn't create dents in Karizma overall sales either, this is another fact.

Bajaj still haven't got its basics right, pulsars still have the worst gearbox, chassis and suspension combination among competition and not to mention it can never match long term reliabilities of the CBZs and the Karizmas...the reason why Karizma is still the touring king!

...I am ready with more guided missiles!!!

You cant change my opinion and i cant yours... I own a first generation pulsar 180 and have thoroughly loved the bike for its reliability and quality with only one minor glitch being the false neutrals. Your guided missiles still wont do any harm as I am still keen on buying a revamped 220 anyday over the puny Yamaha unless they give it some power to go with mine . And not in thousand years will I consider Hero Honda's bike to be better then Bajaj's and yamaha/honda conbined together have really given just one(r-15) which I can consider better bike then Bajaj's ... rest are just commuters ....

Reminds me of the suzuki fiero.It was a good bike,had a damn good torquey engine along with a throaty exhaust note but didnt score well in the looks department.
Pulsars were a big hit because people were tired of driving the 100c bikes.I still remember my brother who used to chain his rx100 with a big padlock because there was still a good demand for the rx,and they used to get stolen.The second factor was,that zmas at those times were expensive.The third factor was , though the cbz was on sale it lacked fuel efficiency hence didnt go well with the commuters.The pulsar classic was an instant hit because it was both fuel efficient and was damn good looking,definitely male.