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    KTM Duke 800

    Sometime in February last year, KTM boss Stefan Pierer had mentioned that complex platforms bearing 500 cc and 800 cc engines are being considered for production in India, adding that the high import duty makes local production the only way to sell bikes fruitfully in the country. Now, German motorcycle magazine Motorrad has spotted a test mule of what could possible be a 800 cc Duke.

    Neuheiten: Der Paparazzo - MOTORRAD
    Render: A KTM Duke 800 could be brewing over at Austria; to be made in India | Motoroids
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    Re: KTM Duke 800

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    Well, with a production capacity of around 800cc you're naturally looking at a twin cylinder at least, seeing the piston speeds and all, but a parallel twin seems to be a good sign. I hope it has a firing order like ninja 300 (360-360) and not like Ninja 650 (540-180)... The former is smoother and makes the bike much more sporty in nature.


    And the render seems so much like Duke 390, except for obvious parts that have changed. Its not surprising, how the group publishes spy shots in the magazine but only graphical renders on the website. Money oriented world after all.


    I do expect the 500cc engine to be a single though. I don't see a considerable performance benefit, making it a twin. 500cc is a decent capacity for a single, plus it will weigh low and be easy on pocket overall, in exchange of some horsepower way up in the rev range.
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    • #3
      Re: KTM Duke 800

      Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
      Topic Approved

      Well, with a production capacity of around 800cc you're naturally looking at a twin cylinder at least, seeing the piston speeds and all, but a parallel twin seems to be a good sign. I hope it has a firing order like ninja 300 (360-360) and not like Ninja 650 (540-180)... The former is smoother and makes the bike much more sporty in nature.


      And the render seems so much like Duke 390, except for obvious parts that have changed. Its not surprising, how the group publishes spy shots in the magazine but only graphical renders on the website. Money oriented world after all.


      I do expect the 500cc engine to be a single though. I don't see a considerable performance benefit, making it a twin. 500cc is a decent capacity for a single, plus it will weigh low and be easy on pocket overall, in exchange of some horsepower way up in the rev range.

      Well, the 690 is a single, and KTM doesn't really excel at twins either.

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      • #4
        Re: KTM Duke 800

        Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
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        Looks like it is a parallel twin.
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        • #5
          Re: KTM Duke 800

          Design cues taken from 690 eh atleast the exhaust seems like so .
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          • #6
            Re: KTM Duke 800

            The first-ever KTM parallel twin in the company's history + possibility of being manufactured by Bajaj (with God-level quality) = get ready for more issues than a service center full of first-batch D390s!
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            • #7
              Re: KTM Duke 800

              Made in India but quite possibly not sold in India. ? or if they do sell it , I want a single sided swingarm, a quickshifter , no saree guard, better looking and smaller rear subframe possibly with a seat cowl, an uptuned 'R' version with a full Akro system. . . . it must be a DREAM SUPERMOTO FULL ON 'BRRRAAAPP' MACHINE ! !
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              • #8
                Re: KTM Duke 800

                Originally posted by UnsettledNose73 View Post
                , I want a single sided swingarm, !
                No offense, but whats with the single-sided swing arm...I am not sure what it does mechanically different from the two-sided one. I just find it visually appealing.
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                • #9
                  Re: KTM Duke 800

                  Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
                  No offense, but whats with the single-sided swing arm...I am not sure what it does mechanically different from the two-sided one. I just find it visually appealing.
                  It actually does both, looks great as well as makes it easier to work on the tires/rear brakes etc if the need be, i.e.; quicker maintenance.
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                  • #10
                    Re: KTM Duke 800

                    Originally posted by TheArcher84 View Post
                    No offense, but whats with the single-sided swing arm...I am not sure what it does mechanically different from the two-sided one. I just find it visually appealing.
                    It may have other pros but for me it is just an asthetic appeal. Makes the rear alloy look like an open vortex . I love the Ducati monster swingarm.

                    But for single sided swingarm the exhaust would have to be relocated higher or made a shorty.
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                    • #11
                      Re: KTM Duke 800

                      Originally posted by tanay View Post
                      The first-ever KTM parallel twin in the company's history + possibility of being manufactured by Bajaj (with God-level quality) = get ready for more issues than a service center full of first-batch D390s!

                      . I feel xbhp should have a fund or some sorts where every interested member contributes. We buy a newly launched bike and then share among ourselves for a week each or so.Then figure out what the reliability is like. This way for a Bajaj launched bike, for instance, we can avoid being Guinea pigs
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                      • #12
                        Re: KTM Duke 800

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                        Might get manufactured in Austria.

                        Source : KTM Duke 800 parallel twin spied | Adventure Rider

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                        • #13
                          Re: KTM Duke 800

                          Originally posted by tanay View Post
                          The first-ever KTM parallel twin in the company's history + possibility of being manufactured by Bajaj (with God-level quality) = get ready for more issues than a service center full of first-batch D390s!
                          Quality issues are something which not every Duke 390 owner is facing, let me clarify. I for example, am one of the first owners of Duke 390.
                          I own one of the first 20 bikes that came to my state. Even the alloy wheel passed through some tough rides and sudden breakers without a bend.

                          Secondly, no matter what we say about quality, finally we (me and you) end up making KTM bikes a success, which is apparent from the market share of Bajaj in this segment. Call it lack of unity, or whatever.

                          What I suspect is, if this bike ends up being around 4 Lacs, that too with a 175~ kgs wet weight, most of us (not all though) will gladly forget all we said here and rush to the KTM showroom. (This kind of price would require assembly in India though)
                          Don't quote me and tell me its not possible, we all know the facts regarding KTM India's philosophy & weight of their SuperDuke 1290R.


                          PS: Both Bajaj and Honda's pricing for premium products is shocking initially, but for different reasons though.
                          Last edited by Samarth 619; 08-27-2015, 03:23 PM.
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                            Re: KTM Duke 800

                            Originally posted by Samarth 619 View Post
                            Quality issues are something which not every Duke 390 owner is facing, let me clarify. I for example, am one of the first owners of Duke 390.
                            I owned one of the first 20 bikes that came to my state. Even the alloy wheel passed through some tough rides and sudden breakers without a bend.

                            Secondly, no matter what we say about quality, finally we (me and you) end up making KTM bikes a success, which is apparent from the market share of Bajaj in this segment. Call it lack of unity, or whatever.

                            What I suspect is, if this bike ends up being around 4 Lacs, that too with a 175~ kgs wet weight, most of us (not all though) will gladly forget all we said here and rush to the KTM showroom.
                            Don't quote me and tell me its not possible, we all know the facts regarding KTM India's philosophy & weight of their SuperDuke 1290R.


                            PS: Both Bajaj and Honda's pricing for premium products is shocking initially, but for different reasons though.

                            4 lakhs for a 800cc paralel is slightly optimistic.
                            Where does the 500 cc cingle fit in then?
                            And the 500cc RC

                            2.1 for RC390

                            3.2 for D500
                            3.5 for RC500

                            5 for D800
                            5.5 for RC800

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                            • #15
                              Re: KTM Duke 800

                              Originally posted by HyperRetard View Post
                              4 lakhs for a 800cc paralel is slightly optimistic.
                              Where does the 500 cc cingle fit in then?
                              And the 500cc RC

                              2.1 for RC390

                              3.2 for D500
                              3.5 for RC500

                              5 for D800
                              5.5 for RC800
                              Well, at launch they might very much do that. They may increase prices later on, but at launch they might keep a certain lower than expected price. Remember, Duke 390 started off with a 1.8L ex showroom.
                              Duke 200 started with a 1.17L ex showroom?
                              Then, 4L ex-showroom at launch is possible, right?

                              We already have Ninja 650 around 5.6L, which by the way has been upgraded once to get to this price, has a fairing and finally, its a Kawasaki too. Kawasakis generally come embedded with both: Good quality and Good price.

                              As far as 500 single is concerned they can very well keep it around 3L or so. 370 and 500, that too both singles, are not that apart by the way. A difference of a Lac rupees from the next upper and lower product makes sense I guess.

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