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  • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

    Originally posted by sayanchakraborty89 View Post
    Some how the same story with Dominar400 and Duke200.

    You can't bet your money on a RE product. I don't want to leave home on two working cylinders and came back on one.

    Rather I will take the Jawa home.
    Well things have changed here. This one is pretty different and top of the line kind of thing from RE. Of course time will tell the reliability and other things. But on a prima facie its a killer.

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    • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

      Originally posted by Mick3y View Post
      Well things have changed here. This one is pretty different and top of the line kind of thing from RE. Of course time will tell the reliability and other things. But on a prima facie its a killer.
      And interestingly, this product has no direct rivals.
      Yamaha SZ16R: 2011 - Present.
      Tvs Fiero FX: 2009 - 2011.

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      • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

        Originally posted by sayanchakraborty89 View Post
        And interestingly, this product has no direct rivals.
        It’s gonna kill classic 500, duke 390, dominor, bmw310, and somewhat to HDs / trumps as well.. in nutshell this gonna wreck the market..

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        • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

          Originally posted by sayanchakraborty89 View Post
          You can't bet your money on a RE product. I don't want to leave home on two working cylinders and came back on one.

          Rather I will take the Jawa home.
          And leave home on one working cylinder and not get back home because that one cylinder conked out

          Looking at it practically (apart from the cost), looks like the RE is the winner here. They have a wider dealership presence, the bike being built by some well known engineering firms/talent and tested for quiet a bit.

          If money is a limitation, the jawa sounds like a good deal too.. but only time will tell about their reliability and ownership experiences.

          But really, they (re twins vs jawa singles) do not fall in the same category to even compare. The jawa's go head to head say with the RE 350s not the twins, in which case at the moment the jawa seems better on paper.. let's see how it fares in the hands of our demanding riders and qc experts

          I love the simplicity (no liquid cooling) and retro-ness of the interceptor , very very tempting to me

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          Originally posted by Mick3y View Post
          It’s gonna kill classic 500, duke 390, dominor, bmw310, and somewhat to HDs / trumps as well.. in nutshell this gonna wreck the market..
          forget the dominar.. mostly the guy buying the dominar might not have the moolah to spend on a 3L bike.. and the 390 maybe, its a different bike and targets to the younger lot who need a whole lot of bang and flashy stuff ;-)
          this will definitely draw in the folks who have 3L to spend and looking for a modern yet retro bike.. mostly the guys in their late 20s and older
          it might cannibalize RE's own 500cc range.
          The HD/triumps cater to a whole different category of people, and i don't see this affect sales of those bikes much (maybe their entry level bike at worst).

          hopefully this doesn't blow up like the himalayan did !

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          • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

            Originally posted by s1d View Post
            And leave home on one working cylinder and not get back home because that one cylinder conked out

            Looking at it practically (apart from the cost), looks like the RE is the winner here. They have a wider dealership presence, the bike being built by some well known engineering firms/talent and tested for quiet a bit.

            If money is a limitation, the jawa sounds like a good deal too.. but only time will tell about their reliability and ownership experiences.

            But really, they (re twins vs jawa singles) do not fall in the same category to even compare. The jawa's go head to head say with the RE 350s not the twins, in which case at the moment the jawa seems better on paper.. let's see how it fares in the hands of our demanding riders and qc experts

            I love the simplicity (no liquid cooling) and retro-ness of the interceptor , very very tempting to me

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            forget the dominar.. mostly the guy buying the dominar might not have the moolah to spend on a 3L bike.. and the 390 maybe, its a different bike and targets to the younger lot who need a whole lot of bang and flashy stuff ;-)
            this will definitely draw in the folks who have 3L to spend and looking for a modern yet retro bike.. mostly the guys in their late 20s and older
            it might cannibalize RE's own 500cc range.
            The HD/triumps cater to a whole different category of people, and i don't see this affect sales of those bikes much (maybe their entry level bike at worst).

            hopefully this doesn't blow up like the himalayan did !
            Exactly. Himalayan with bs4 is the best adventure tourer at the moment with that price tag. But due to initial debacle people are still apprehensive about it.
            Whereas this one seems more tested and refined. But again people are cautious and observing the developments around.

            Yeah when I mentioned HD/Trumphs, I meant their entry level bikes only. [emoji4]

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            • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

              Originally posted by J.Ravi View Post
              Today, I visited Sri Velavan Motors, Greams Road, Chennai and checked the new Royal Enfield 650 cc Twins. I really liked Interceptor. I sat on it and felt fully comfortable on the single narrow seat. I was told the Chennai on-road price is just less than ₹ 3 lakhs, which is very attractive and tempting. Now, I know, what is in store for me in 2019!

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              I got my TB 500 from Velavan motors in 2016, believe me they suck in Customer Service. After which i tried Classic-motors ambattur, Southern motors- tambaram and faced the same shitty customer service. Finally got a good service feedback from I Speed motors, kilpauk. Whenever i went to service if the owner is there he interacts very well to me and fixes any issues in bike immediately. Try their Showroom
              Respect the brotherhood Ride for the one behind you, anyone can twist the throttle. When you are in need be responsible.

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              • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                Originally posted by murali_db View Post
                I got my TB 500 from Velavan motors in 2016, believe me they suck in Customer Service. After which i tried Classic-motors ambattur, Southern motors- tambaram and faced the same shitty customer service. Finally got a good service feedback from I Speed motors, kilpauk. Whenever i went to service if the owner is there he interacts very well to me and fixes any issues in bike immediately. Try their Showroom
                Great pictures sir.

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                Originally posted by s1d View Post
                And leave home on one working cylinder and not get back home because that one cylinder conked out

                Looking at it practically (apart from the cost), looks like the RE is the winner here. They have a wider dealership presence, the bike being built by some well known engineering firms/talent and tested for quiet a bit.

                If money is a limitation, the jawa sounds like a good deal too.. but only time will tell about their reliability and ownership experiences.

                But really, they (re twins vs jawa singles) do not fall in the same category to even compare. The jawa's go head to head say with the RE 350s not the twins, in which case at the moment the jawa seems better on paper.. let's see how it fares in the hands of our demanding riders and qc experts

                I love the simplicity (no liquid cooling) and retro-ness of the interceptor , very very tempting to me

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                forget the dominar.. mostly the guy buying the dominar might not have the moolah to spend on a 3L bike.. and the 390 maybe, its a different bike and targets to the younger lot who need a whole lot of bang and flashy stuff ;-)
                this will definitely draw in the folks who have 3L to spend and looking for a modern yet retro bike.. mostly the guys in their late 20s and older
                it might cannibalize RE's own 500cc range.
                The HD/triumps cater to a whole different category of people, and i don't see this affect sales of those bikes much (maybe their entry level bike at worst).

                hopefully this doesn't blow up like the himalayan did !
                I too loved the simplicity. Should make it more reliable as a tourer.
                However, I would still not trust an RE.

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                And trust me, the maintenance might not kill you, but it is going to hurt you really really bad.
                Yamaha SZ16R: 2011 - Present.
                Tvs Fiero FX: 2009 - 2011.

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                • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                  Originally posted by sayanchakraborty89 View Post
                  Some how the same story with Dominar400 and Duke200.

                  You can't bet your money on a RE product. I don't want to leave home on two working cylinders and came back on one.

                  Rather I will take the Jawa home.
                  The jawa isn't tested either. So that's needs to kept on the watch list.

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                  • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                    Originally posted by Vipergts07 View Post
                    The jawa isn't tested either. So that's needs to kept on the watch list.
                    The engine have similarity with Mojo. And Mojo is one of the best engine available in India.

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                    • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                      Originally posted by chidafn View Post
                      The engine have similarity with Mojo. And Mojo is one of the best engine available in India.
                      That's just a rumour. Some old Italian famous engineer made it from ground up. Some parts are shared because of mahindra, similarity ends there. He does make an appearance at the jawa unveiling.

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                      • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                        Originally posted by Vipergts07 View Post
                        That's just a rumour. Some old Italian famous engineer made it from ground up. Some parts are shared because of mahindra, similarity ends there. He does make an appearance at the jawa unveiling.
                        Sorry fo OT. But both Mojo and Jawa have same specs I think. Jawa spec from our thread is "a 293cc, single-cylinder, 4-Stroke, DOHC, liquid cooled unit. The bore x stroke is 76x65mm. The compression ratio sits at 11:1. It makes 27 Bhp of power and 28 Nm of torque." Mojo spec is almost same, the major difference being this is BS-VI ready. If M&M says Italian design it is because the original Mojo was a prototype from Engines Engineering, Italy. Mahindra acquired this company many years ago and we got the Mojo. If Jawa has a new engine, why nobody saw a testmule in our roads? The Mojo test mules where seen at least 5 years before its launch. Actually the Mojo engine is very good and we should be happy that Mahindra has a tried and tested and proven engine.

                        Originally posted by sayanchakraborty89 View Post

                        I too loved the simplicity. Should make it more reliable as a tourer.
                        However, I would still not trust an RE.

                        And trust me, the maintenance might not kill you, but it is going to hurt you really really bad.
                        Sirji, sorry but I reply because you have atleast 3 posts here about RE reliability. Just saying that as per JD Power 2018 survey, RE came second in Customer Satisfaction Index. Don't ask me how. TVS is first.

                        Fact is RE has improved a lot in recent years.
                        Last edited by deejayrox; 11-16-2018, 07:57 PM.

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                        • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                          Originally posted by murali_db View Post
                          You will get a big smile once you complete your test drive. Its a proud moment to drive a Indian bike and feel this way.

                          It's seems like you had a drive after dark any comments on the headlights? How's the throw and spread?

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                          • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                            Well I can vouch for the quality of RE with recent years. But I doubt the knowledge around the service centres to fix any RE. That’s the major let down. If RE fixes that, then nothing can beat them in ruling the Indian market.

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                            • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                              Originally posted by Vipergts07 View Post
                              The jawa isn't tested either. So that's needs to kept on the watch list.
                              It's engine is Mojo derived so it has been texted in a way. I hope Interceptor is good and does good in market too. It makes for a really good vfm.

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                              • Re: Royal Enfield 650 Twin Engine Unveiled. Prices out too!

                                Originally posted by deejayrox View Post
                                Sorry fo OT. But both Mojo and Jawa have same specs I think. Jawa spec from our thread is "a 293cc, single-cylinder, 4-Stroke, DOHC, liquid cooled unit. The bore x stroke is 76x65mm. The compression ratio sits at 11:1. It makes 27 Bhp of power and 28 Nm of torque." Mojo spec is almost same, the major difference being this is BS-VI ready. If M&M says Italian design it is because the original Mojo was a prototype from Engines Engineering, Italy. Mahindra acquired this company many years ago and we got the Mojo. If Jawa has a new engine, why nobody saw a testmule in our roads? The Mojo test mules where seen at least 5 years before its launch. Actually the Mojo engine is very good and we should be happy that Mahindra has a tried and tested and proven engine.



                                Sirji, sorry but I reply because you have atleast 3 posts here about RE reliability. Just saying that as per JD Power 2018 survey, RE came second in Customer Satisfaction Index. Don't ask me how. TVS is first.

                                Fact is RE has improved a lot in recent years.
                                If you can have a look at the jawa launch, Will have better clarity on it. When husqvarna comes, it cannot be said that it used a Bajaj engine if it simply has similar power train figures. Vehicles get manufactured here and exported without even being sold here. Jawa went through the testing phase too since this past year. Although it's not just the engine that matters. Steering geometry, rake, chassis and all matters equally. Probably the old dude works for the engineering firm that m&m bought. Mojo engine is truly good obviously. Either way, hope it stands up to expectations. If only, it was priced in line with the classic 350, it would have done brilliantly. At 20k more, it won't get near C 350 numbers. But at sub 3L the 650 will eat up its own 500's and the hd's.

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