frnds dont compare the bikes even before the new one is launched..
let the new model be launched and then who ever wants to buy one go compare and just pick ur choice its waste to just keep on comparing the models before their launch!

I got lost amidst OT's. Is this a speculation thread or actual news is there for A220?

This thread is a pointless speculation thread. People please dont waste your time reading anything. There is no news here. Just a Bajaj Vs TVS fight. Mods please lock this thread as there is no concrete news coming from anywhere.

sensesless, pointless topic. Can you really trust websites like motorbeam? Come on.. Where are the mods?

Amateur sites and Blogs are dime a dozen these days.. xBhp (ians) normally know to ignore them. Don't worry, we don't take them seriously.

But sometimes even reputed publications are responsible in speculation.. and this time news of a probable TVS 200(+) CC has been reported by national media (not just motorbeam). Hence the discussion.

Relax, our mods do know their job.

Guys I've only pointed out the fact that TVS is able to churn out more performance from their 180cc mill than Bajaj does with its P180. Maybe you guys don't see that but for me that's a commendable thing to do. Also about that whole "R15 being 30cc less than RTR180" thing, brothers that too is a great achievement by Yamaha. Though this comes with its share of disadvantages as well, apparently the vibes in the RTR180 and the less torque at low rpm's in R15 being the sore points in both the bikes respectively.

I don't say that the P180 is not a good bike, I'm saying that the RTR180 is a much much better one, well at least to me it is.



So you mean that the P220 gives the same performance as the R15?? Well the guys who use the R15 on tracks would differ surely. The P220 is nowhere on the handling front when compared to the R15. Also then there is Bajaj's questionable quality. I didn't quite get the ZMA part either.....do you intend to say that anyone looking for a bike with a 1 lakh budget should simply go for an R15 and shouldn't even consider the ZMA which by the way has been serving the nation's touring leagues for almost half a decade now??



Well said brother. I too hope the same. Now lets play the wait n watch game.


You have a way of making posts that are going O.T. halt . Well I respect your point of view too. Comparing bhp/torque of bikes can make sense, but I believe that dusting a P220 on a RTR180 would be much more fun and SATISFYING to do than to lets say dust a P180 with a RTR180.



Brother we're talking about the RTR180 here, has the FI been launched yet?? Anyways ..... I take your point none the less.

The reply for the R15 discussion is right above......please do take the time to read through. Yeah I give you that the P220 is a better highway tool then the RTR180 coz of the upright stance and better top-end.



Guys I too feel that this is going way O.T. Hence this will be my last post regarding the fact that RTR180 is a better performer than her similar cc counterparts and can even give the big guys a run for their money (read P220). Although some may disagree to this but for me lower cc and better performance is better than higher cc and similar performance. Period. I won't reply to any post regarding the RTR180 again in this thread. If anyone wants to discuss it further then message me.

Anyways the RTR220 is gonna be a helluva bike as it'll surely outshine the P220 and the likes; maybe even the R15. Lets hope TVS can surprise us at the expo.