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**arvindraju** · 12-19-2010, 01:13 PM

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

^^ not really. 5S was till 2004 only iirc. the last year they sold some funny Tiger model which had crux meters, crux indicators, and engine covers of the 5Speed, but was a 4 speed inside ( 12.5bhp + 4 speed gearbox ).

This is what makes the 5S so rare ( 14.5bhp and 5 gears )

Originally posted by jd666 View Post

Arvind raju has one.

Wrong

Yamaha Crux Meters:

Yamaha RX135 2004-2005 Meters:

^^^ thats what i have

Very Few RX135 2004-2005 Models are seen on road,people often mistake it Crux meters

**aargee** · 12-19-2010, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by arvindraju View Post

Wrong
Very Few RX135 2004-2005 Models are seen on road,people often mistake it Crux meters

Lol!!! But we still prefer calling it Crux meters

Tks for the info Arvi

**arvindraju** · 12-19-2010, 03:23 PM

Originally posted by aargee View Post

Lol!!! But we still prefer calling it Crux meters

Tks for the info Arvi

if a Crux can perform like a RX i too will call it crux meters

**rkboy** · 12-19-2010, 06:09 PM

:-D
Thank you.my neighbour has an rx135 2005 model with meters similar to what arvind posted.Absolute beauty.Looks like it came out of the showroom just yesterday.its done only 5900km(genuine).

**SriramEfunds** · 12-19-2010, 11:08 PM

The meters that you guys have been talking is from RX100 - Mexico model.

I have the parts manual (english), in that it resembles just like the one came in RX135 later model.

**jd666** · 01-13-2011, 02:06 PM

^^ please put up a classified ad for the same..

**jd666** · 01-13-2011, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by arvindraju View Post

Wrong

Yamaha Crux Meters:

Yamaha RX135 2004-2005 Meters:

^^^ thats what i have

Very Few RX135 2004-2005 Models are seen on road,people often mistake it Crux meters

just coz the meter plates are different!! hehe.. the meter pods are still CRUX!!!

**dpak89** · 01-17-2011, 06:25 PM

guys these RX 4speed with 5s covers and different crux type meters are very common in coimbatore in tamilnadu...i know atleat some 5 guys in my area itself having these rare pieces... according to one of them..72 bikes of this model were sold in coimbatore....they are often mistaken as 5speed though!!

...one of my office colleague also has it...!!

**RXZ5speed** · 01-18-2011, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post

Dear All,

I am listing down some basic differences & similarities between 4-speed & 5-speed RX135 (Includes RXG & RX-Z), which will help people to differentiate & learn more about these legendary series once produced in India.

1. Bore Kit (a.k.a Piston-Cylinder Kit / Barrel / Block)

4-Speed - '4TL00' with OEM "ART" STD piston '4Y201', Rating: 12BHP @ 6500RPM
5-Speed - '4TL10' with OEM "ART" STD piston '4Y201', Rating: 14BHP @ 7500RPM

Note1: (which is the displacement) and the RH side (Crank Kicker Side) has the batch of manufacturing, for ex., E1, E2, E3 or E4 (All of them have exactly similar performance, people who swear by performance of E1 being the best, is all crap.) Also if nothing is mentioned or some other type code is mentioned, then the Cylinder is a fake, except for '4Y201' which is the original block of RX-K.

Note2: The Cylinder packing has the following description on it:

1. RX135 4-Speed / RXG / RX-Z 4-Speed: "Cylinder Kit RXG"
2. RX135 5-Speed / RX-Z 5-Speed: "Cylinder Kit 5-Speed"

Note3: Displacement calculation

For Std RX135 being a single cylinder engine, we have the following inputs,

Bore Dia = 58mm
Bore Radius = 58/2 = 29mm
Bore Radius Squared = 841mm2
Stroke Length = 50mm
Pi = 22/7 = 3.142857 (Corrected upto 6 decimals)
Number of Cylinders = 1

Displacement in mm3 = Stroke x Bore Radius Squared x Pi x No. of Cylinder
= 50 x 841 x 3.142857 x 1
= 132157.143

Displacement in cm3 = 132157.143/1000
= 132.157 (Corrected upto 3 decimals)

2. Piston Kit

The OEM Piston kit for Indian RX135 series are from "ART" Japan. For Indian models piston sizes from STD to 0.5mm are available (in steps of 0.25mm). On careful observation of the piston, one can identify if it is original or not. Simply turn the piston upside down & inside we can see "ART" & "4Y201" clearly written. This is the proof for original piston. The piston kit essentially comprises of

Piston (STD/0.25mm/0.5mm)
Piston Rings
Piston Pin
Clips

Note: The pistons are the same for RX135 4-Speed, RX135 5-Speed, RXG, RX-Z.

3. Carburettor Assembly

The OEM Carb assembly for RX135 is Mikuni / UCAL Mikuni. The Carb assembly are different for both 4-Speed & 5-Speed versions.

4-Speed: '4TL 01' with Main Jet = 165 & Pilot Jet = 17.5
5-Speed: '4TL4 20' with Main Jet = 135 & Pilot Jet = 15.0

These are VM type of Carburettors manufactured by Mikuni & both are 22mm. Additonally VM24 & VM26 are used for RX available in South-East Asian countries (Like Singapore, Indonesia & Malaysia) and in South American Countries (Like Peru, Argentina & Brazil). The details of these are given below:

VM24: '2YA 00' with Main Jet = 145 & Pilot Jet = 20.0
VM26: '55K 00D' with Main Jet = 210 & Pilot Jet = 22.5

These carbs (VM24 & VM26) are direct fit to Indian RX135s with some minor jetting changes required based on the Power output of the engine.

Note: The type code is mentioned just above the 2-T oil Inlet in the carb, with that the originality can be confirmed.

4. Head Assembly

The heads are also different for 4-speed & 5-speed. The type code is mentioned below:

RX135 4-Speed: '4TL5' written on inner side (Top) of Head (For OE fitting Catalytic Converter type)
RX135 4-Speed / RXG: '4TL00' written on inner side (Top) of Head (For OE fitting Chrome Silencer)
RX135 5-Speed: '09L' written on inner side of Head

5. Clutch Bell Assembly with Primary drive

The clutch bell assembly are the same for 4-speed & 5-speed RX135 (Including the number of Clutch plates), but it is different for RX-G. Below are the differences mentioned:

RX135/RX-Z 4-Speed/5-Speed: Main Bell = 74 Teeth
Primary Drive = 19 Teeth

RX-G : Main Bell = 71 Teeth
Primary Drive = 22 Teeth

6. Chain Sproket

The sproket (Front & Rear) are all different for entire RX series. Detailed info given below:

4-Speed: 16T / 34T
5-Speed: 15T / 38T
RX-G : 15T / 37T

7. Gear Box
The Gearbox are obviously different for 4-speed & 5-speed. Details below:

4-Speed:
1st = 35/11 = 3.182
2nd = 30/15 = 2.000
3rd = 26/19 = 1.368
4th = 23/23 = 1.000

5-Speed:
1st = 35/11 = 3.182
2nd = 30/15 = 2.000
3rd = 26/19 = 1.368
4th= 24/22 = 1.091
5th = 22/24 = 0.917

8. Engine

The engine may be classifed based on Top End (Included Cylinder+Piston & Head) and Bottom End (Includes Clutch Assembly, CrankShaft, Engine Bearings, Crank Kicker, Engine Cases, Clutch/GB Covers, Ignition coil, GearBox Assembly etc as major components). Most of these items are already covered in points 1 to 7 above.

Note1: The RX135 4-Speed & RX-Z 4-Speed share the same Engine, likewise RX135 5-Speed & RX-Z 5-Speed share the same Engine.

Note2: The CrankShaft Assembly is the same for RX135, RX-G, RX135 5-Speed & RX-Z.

Note3: We can identify looking at the Engine number if the Bike was a 4-Speed version or a 5-Speed verion. Check the details below:

1. RX135 (With Chrome Silencer as OE fitting): 1L5 XXXXXX
2. RX135 (With Catalytic Silencer as OE fitting): 4TL XXXXXX
3. RX135 5-Speed: 1L7 XXXXXX

P.S: The RX135 5-Speed never came with OE fitted Chrome silencer, the OE fit was the Big Hot-Tube type catalytic converter Exhaust.

Any comments/additions are most welcome. Hope you all enjoyed this read.

I request all senior members to help make this thread sticky, so that all the RX enthusiasts are benifitted by this & it would avoid new joinees to ask unwanted questions. I sincerly request the moderator to look into this.

Thank you.

-Karthik..

Wow man that was a perfect explanation.

**abhimanyu31** · 01-18-2011, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by RXZ5speed View Post

Wow man that was a perfect explanation.

+1... @karthikdattag: that is truly well researched and written... will use the same for future reference... thanks

**dual disc 200** · 01-18-2011, 02:41 PM

Woww...! That was one well researched & presented article karthik. Too good mate. Keep up the good work.

**karthikdattag** · 01-22-2011, 04:59 PM

Originally posted by RXZ5speed View Post

Wow man that was a perfect explanation.

Originally posted by abhimanyu31 View Post

+1... @karthikdattag: that is truly well researched and written... will use the same for future reference... thanks

Originally posted by dual disc 200 View Post

Woww...! That was one well researched & presented article karthik. Too good mate. Keep up the good work.

Thanks a lot guys. There is still lot of other inputs to be added, will do that as and when time permits.

**insane_x97** · 01-22-2011, 05:18 PM

that was really nice information bro....
thx for that..

here goes some ot, sorry for that...
i am planing an engine swap, shaolin engine in shogun,will that be a retro fit..

**yamdoot** · 01-22-2011, 09:24 PM

Originally posted by insane_x97 View Post

that was really nice information bro....
thx for that..

here goes some ot, sorry for that...
i am planing an engine swap, shaolin engine in shogun,will that be a retro fit..

Yes it is. Be sure to swap/install the CDI, carb and wiring harness.

**insane_x97** · 01-22-2011, 11:19 PM

thx for the info bro,but homework increases, wiring, carb, cdi missing

wiring part, i can make mine, cdi may be,
can rx100/135 or shogun carb be used??

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