Re: Suzuki Samurai - 1999 a long time companion of mine

Nice thread. My first bike which I learnt riding was Suzuki samurai, a bottle green colour, which I still find the best colour on samurai. Ya it truly is no problem bike. We had a samurai but our cousin brothers sold it. The samurai which I learnt riding was of our neighbours. On Sundays when he used to clean the bike I would help him in it. The reward will be he will teach me to ride in the evening. Those were good old days when relationship between people were very good. Nowadays neighbours do not know each other for years talk about globalization. And till day there are two bike whose headlights intensity and spread is unmatched they are LML NV SPL AND SUZUKI SAMURAI.

[MENTION=49050]SatSon[/MENTION]- you are right these days they do not make bikes like that anymore. Look at any max 100, samurai, rx series, CD SERIES, even my joy which was from same era the quality is just amazing.

Back in those days my joy costed Rs 47k and in todays date if you see it is very expensive for the features it had. But hey the quality is just amazing. Even after so many days it rocks. Similar with samurai although it was expensive the quality was second to none.

Re: Suzuki Samurai - 1999 a long time companion of mine

It would be awesome if TVS Re-launch the Shogun with all those Advanced Improvements and on the Same 110cc 2 Stroke Engine with EFI and Front Discs and that will beat the RTRs Up and Down !!

Re: Suzuki Samurai - 1999 a long time companion of mine

But this will not happen. Doing all those expenensive tricks like EFI, Advanced micro processing, etc etc will attract none seeing the cost of the production and tthe onroad price will cross a lakh. With that money, I will add some more money and buy the Duke straightaway.

And the power of the Advanced shogun will not be as powerful as YOU expected.

(SORRY IF THE WORDS HURTS BUT THIS IS THE FACT. I KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS A TVS FAN!).

Re: Rust near the Battery - Best way to repaint and the options

Here is an update regarding the Re-Registration Process.

06 Septermber 2014 -
Visit 1 to Uppal RTO for re-registation - I am told to get it registered from Attapur RTO

Visit 1 to Attapur RTO - I get an NOC from the Attapur RTO and asked to get the registration from the Uppal RTO

Visit 2 to Uppal RTO- Systems down so returned without anything done.

Visit 3 to Uppal RTO - Systems up and running so get the re-registration done within 1 hour falt ( that includes inspection in the ground that is close to 2 kms away from the RTO office)

Visit 4 to Uppal RTO - As the RC card is not delivered to me and the Speed post number was of some one else's dispatch Also I noticed that there was a mistake in the Chassis number ( online vehicle details checking)- Here starts the fun part. THe lady asks me to wait for 10 minutes, pulls up the nOC and Form 28 issued from the Attapur highlighting that the mistake was from the Atapur RTO- so another visit to them to get the records updated from them

Visit 2 to Attapur RTO( along with original NOC issues along with the Form 28) I am asked to write a applicaiton with al the details. The Letter is accepted along with the NOC and Form 28, I am made to run from the Head RTA officer to the counter to the Inspection officer ( a total of 4 signatures and 4 hours of wait ) Submitted the Letter attested with the Inspection officer seal and singature on the backside along with the chassis imprint.

I am told to come in the evening to collect the docments. I requested that I can only come the next day morning. I am told thats ok


Visit 3: Dint notice it was a state government holiday so returned back

Visit 4 :The clerk gives me a puzzled expression when I tell him there is no correction in the recrods when I checked in the Online website. I had to leave as I was running out of time

Visit 5: The clerk after a lot of pestering tells me that they cannot change/update anything regarding my bike as the record is now in Uppal RTO after Re-registration- THey agree to give me a written letter addressed to RTA Uppal for the same. I collect the letter and leave after 4 hours

Visit 5 to Uppal RTO: I submit the letter along with the details again to the RTO Uppal. I am allowed to go into the office and follow up as things happen. The IT guy updates the number in front of me after the Chief RTA person signs in to the computer. I am shown the change and Assured that the Card would be delivered to my postal addres within a weeks time.

Finally I get the RC card in December after two months of agonizing followup ( 300kms of riding in total) - SO much for the good governance.

Re: Rust near the Battery - Best way to repaint and the options

We're busy chasing the great Indian dream(beautiful wife with cute kids, bigger house, multiple vehicles in the parking-space) & we get old in the process.

Even if 0.1% of us shift our attention then the story will be different.

OT...

Re: Problem with early morning start up

[MENTION=72230]TVSian[/MENTION] How did you come to the conclusion that the kbs engine was older than the rx100 and was thus impossible to save it ,can you kindly explain

Re: Problem with early morning start up

To my knowledge,I believe KB's engine is older than of RX and KB's block had a different or an Older Design than the RX or Suzukis.So KB had more pollution and lesser efficiency than the RX and Suzuki.I don't know much about KB anyway.I respect your enthusiasm as you own a KB 100.I used to love the KB 125 RTZ as she used to be the second best after the RD 350 and 3rd was Shogun.Engine note is outta the world ! OK,Let's not go OT.How's Samurai doing ?

Re: Problem with early morning start up

heres to updating your knowledge , kbs engine design is as contemporary as its rivals it wasin fact the suzuzuki that wasbased on an older design , it came with crankcase mounted reed valves when the world was moving away to more efficient cylinder mounted ones , the suzy in the ax100 guise put out under 8.5bhp , which was ramped up to 9.5bhp in supra and11 bhp in the supra powerup before it was chopped down to 7.8bhp across the max and samurai range the kb 100 put out 10.5 bhp in its initial iteration which was boosted to 11bhp in later versions while the rx100 made 11bhp through out its life time , dont think something is inferior just because its different from the rest,

Time for a Overhaul

my 71250 kms old Suzuki Samurai engine has been opened up. Here are a few queries.

1) should I go for a complete new block piston kit readily available from showroom or go for first oversize .20 piston (My mechanic assures me the reboring will be done using high precision and will be top notch job.) The present piston is Mahle, Should I and go for the same or Goetze if it is any better..Also Is there any reliable source for ART piston for Suzuki Samurai and if yes what would be the cost.
2) There is slight vertical play in the crank assembly and Iam told a simple connecting rod replacement will be fine. The showroom does not stock only the connecting rod separately. Is MB a good brand of connecting rod...Is there anything better than the 'MB'
3) Iam told the reed valve valve is fine, Should I replace it anyway?
4)The stock engine bearings are SFK and the ones from showroom genuine package are of same make. My good friend has suggested me to go for NTN ( made in Japan). Bearing number 6304/c3 , 6205C4. I am unable to find them in secunderabad area. Does anyone know a reliable source. please respond where can I get them, also if possible direct me to a dealer of genuine Japanese made bearing who may have these in stock.

Attaching a few snaps for reference.

Re: Time for a Overhaul

hope the above answers will help in clearing the air

PS: if you are changing the clutch plates then change the clutch boss , pressure plate and springs along with it , will drastically increase its life

Re: Time for a Overhaul

@srikany, sorry I was not able to receive your calls. Good to see that your engine overhaul has started. As far as bearings are concerned there is non more knowledgeable as Krishna uncle (Tulsi's father) who restored my Rx so you can ask him about it and ask him where to get it. If you do have the option of getting a cylinder kit brand new from suzuki I say go for it coz it lasts longer and performs better that any rebore but if that is not an option you can get a rebore to 1st oversize without worry. Tulsi got the rebore done for my Rx and I raised it to 80kmph 50kms into the run in and still it didn't seize, so you know you're getting quality with him. MB is a standard branded con-rod, I have it in my Rx too and so far its not disappointed. Otherwise you can just go with Tulsi to Ramkot and see all the shops he goes to, This way you can judge what you're getting and also see if you can get better stuff. Apart from that I guess good luck with your build. Oh and BTW your Reeds look like crap so best to change them.

Cheers
Balgi

Re: Time for a Overhaul

Hi srikany, yours is a very well maintained samurai. Its hard to find good samurais these days. Whenever i see a samurai on street, i go back to 90's man Please maintain it and never even think of selling it. IMO samurai is one of the smoothest 2 stroke bike ever produced. Although i never owned one, but have ridden my close friend's samurai a lot of times.
Cheers

Re: Time for a Overhaul

Ah! So, you're that uncensored BHPian then

I hope you've completed this project & Samurai is ready to fight now

Re: Time for a Overhaul

Hi Kiran,

Thanks for your kind words. One of the reasons for the condition of the bike, is that the initial quality (only switchgear is not that good) of the paint, metal, chrome, fiber/plastic is top notch and built to last a lifetime. Add to that my habit of keeping my dear sammy always in the shade and avoid rain as much as possible. With regular TLC by your truly she has aged hardly in the past fifteen and a half years.

Not many people realize the Samurai is severely under-rated bike. It has a balance of power and mileage among all the two stokers and the parts are not that difficult to obtain. Fortunately for me, I had the place and good hands to keep her from rusting for more than six years that I was away from her. I guess sometime in future, there will be people who would realize the value of Samurai and it would be sold for insane prices in the used market.

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Sir, yes the bike has been put together and now Have done about 70 kms since the rebuild. I am keeping the speed under 40 and very gentle with the throttle. Kindly suggest best practises in breaking in a newly rebored two stroker.

## Dint get the sentence regarding "unsensored Bhpian".

Cheers

Re: Time for a Overhaul

- 70 Km is fine for now, once you're 100 Km & above, increase the throttle to speed up to 60 Kmph & release it bring down to 30-40; keep doing this swing frequently
- STAY away from the engine oil available from fuel station for now even if its Castrol sachet. Pls use Shell (not sure if Motul still supplied) 2T engine oil in the tank with about 10-20% increase from the regular oil pump mix
- When you feel the heat at the ankles from the engine, pull over for some rest...for the engine
- Pls refuel only from a good fuel station & preferably stick there until the runin completes
- I hope you're using a good engine oil from Motul or Shell; around 500 Km or so, please change the engine oil & once again around 1000 Km. I know this is overkill, but doesn't harm

Sudarshan Vaidya? Remember the advice we gave you to go in for a new block piston instead of getting rebored?