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  • #31
    Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

    Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
    Thanks bro for the input, i think supra and samuai had same engine just the cosmetics was different, they might have bumped the power up to compete with Rx-100.
    The engine on samurai and max100 are detuned versions of the ax100 engine. Supras are a more powerful version to take on rx. Honestly, i have been itching to try out doc's supra.

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    • #32
      Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

      Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
      Thanks bro for the input, i think supra and samuai had same engine just the cosmetics was different, they might have bumped the power up to compete with Rx-100.
      Supra was before the Samurai was released. They were always more powerful with different porting, bigger carb and a resonator on the powerup. Yes the Powerup was launched against the RX100 and in two years they came up with the ultimate RX killer- The Shogun.
      1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
      1989 Ki-Honda 110
      1994 Suzuki Shogun
      1997 Yamaha RX135
      2008 Yamaha FZ
      Suzuki Supra Powerup
      IND-SUZUKI AX100
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      • #33
        Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

        Yes Mr.Yamdoot,The Shogun was the original killer of every Yamaha RX Bike.So..eh..Any Updates Sir ?? Thank you
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        • #34
          Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

          Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
          Supra was before the Samurai was released. They were always more powerful with different porting, bigger carb and a resonator on the powerup. Yes the Powerup was launched against the RX100 and in two years they came up with the ultimate RX killer- The Shogun.
          Then you are restoring a piece of history, Shogun was indeed an Rx-killer but somehow the shogun itself got killed in this attempt, as shogun was not at all that reliable.

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          Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
          The engine on samurai and max100 are detuned versions of the ax100 engine. Supras are a more powerful version to take on rx. Honestly, i have been itching to try out doc's supra.

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          Even iam eager to try Mr. Doc supra and to meet him personally, but that chance will never come atleast for me.

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          • #35
            Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

            [QUOTE=kusmaker;1092494]Then you are restoring a piece of history, Shogun was indeed an Rx-killer but somehow the shogun itself got killed in this attempt, as shogun was not at all that reliable.

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            Piece of history? Yes definitely. Its one of its kind in the whole world actually.
            About Shogun being killed etc etc. you have got totally wrong info on that Kusmaker. I have owned the Shogun since new from 1994 and the first time i had to opennup the engine was at 50k kms cos of a dry 2T oil tank. The clutch plates also lasted that many kms. Another fact id like to add here is Shogun was sold for 10 years and it sold in fairly large numbers till they had to stop it production due to pollution norms and four strokes taking over the market. I still like it better than my RX.
            Last edited by yamdoot; 09-18-2014, 12:07 AM.
            1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
            1989 Ki-Honda 110
            1994 Suzuki Shogun
            1997 Yamaha RX135
            2008 Yamaha FZ
            Suzuki Supra Powerup
            IND-SUZUKI AX100
            Hero IMPULSE
            TVS NTORQ


            No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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            • #36
              Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

              What killed the suzuki 2 strokes is not lack of reliability or innovation. Infact their mix of lowtech induction system and hightech gear box setup created a near perfect bike. Not to mention, shogun was the only indian bike to come with an expansion chamber.

              What has killed off the suzukis is the severe lack of spares created by tvs. If spares were as easily available as they are for rx i am sure they wld still be killing other single cyl bikes even today.

              Case in point: see how long max100s have survived. They go unnoticed on roads due to their demure stature but their longivity is remarkable.

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              Last edited by Bibhu; 09-18-2014, 12:26 AM.
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              • #37
                Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                [QUOTE=yamdoot;1092510]
                Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                Then you are restoring a piece of history, Shogun was indeed an Rx-killer but somehow the shogun itself got killed in this attempt, as shogun was not at all that reliable.

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                Piece of history? Yes definitely. Its one of its kind in the whole world actually.
                About Shogun being killed etc etc. you have got totally wrong info on that Kusmaker. I have owned the Shogun since new from 1994 and the first time i had to opennup the engine was at 50k kms cos of a dry 2T oil tank. The clutch plates also lasted that many kms. Another fact id like to add here is Shogun was sold for 10 years and it sold in fairly large numbers till they had to stop it production due to pollution norms and four strokes taking over the market. I still like it better than my RX.

                Ok, yeah shogun was sold in pretty healthy numers, even i also once went to Tvs-suzuki showroom to buy shogun, showroom guys were giving Test Rides of shogun, and i asked a guy who came for the servicing of his shogun, he was not at all happy with the bike according to him clutch was creating some problem and he was repeatedly visiting the ASC to fix the issue but to no avail, and some other owners also were complaining about something or the other seeing so many owners complaining and the unprofessional service factor got against the shogun and i purchased Rx-100, pollution norms was the biggest factor in killing all these little 2strokes.

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                Originally posted by Bibhu View Post
                What killed the suzuki 2 strokes is not lack of reliability or innovation. Infact their mix of lowtech induction system and hightech gear box setup created a near perfect bike. Not to mention, shogun was the only indian bike to come with an expansion chamber.

                What has killed off the suzukis is the severe lack of spares created by tvs. If spares were as easily available as they are for rx i am sure they wld still be killing other single cyl bikes even today.

                Case in point: see how long max100s have survived. They go unnoticed on roads due to their demure stature but their longivity is remarkable.

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                Tvs has still got this spare supply problem, even for there newest bikes like the phoenix they are not able to provide spares properly, and you are damn right if the spares of shogun or samurai were available they would have been ruling the 2strokes even at this time also.

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                • #38
                  Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                  Nitesh, wonderful restoration of Suzuki Supra and for me, its like a new world and took a closer look at the pics. Great job and very very detailed. That seat cowl metal fabrication is fantastic. You had not only thought about the durability but it's going to last really really long. This thread is educating me about the Suzuki line up.
                  RX100 1996 | Karizma 2004 | Karizma-R 2011 | RXZ 1999 | RX 135 1998 | RX 100 1993 | CBF150 2005 - 2011

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                  • #39
                    Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                    Wow! a wonderful thread. Some how i am more attracted to Suzuki 2 strokes because of the fact that the first bike i rode was a Suzuki Samurai. Absolutely love that bike. And Shogun ya it is truly violent and that thing will scare todays kids to piss in their pants. The shogun and shaolin would have truly ruled the roost if it were not for pathetic Tvs spares supply.

                    Excellent rebuild [MENTION=9171]yamdoot[/MENTION] as usual. We want a photo of all your pride possessions in one shot standing together, please.We had a samurai in family and morons sold it off.

                    Now we have an RX100 in a pity state which i will restore.
                    Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                    • #40
                      Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                      Originally posted by sibun View Post
                      Wow! a wonderful thread. Some how i am more attracted to Suzuki 2 strokes because of the fact that the first bike i rode was a Suzuki Samurai. Absolutely love that bike. And Shogun ya it is truly violent and that thing will scare todays kids to piss in their pants. The shogun and shaolin would have truly ruled the roost if it were not for pathetic Tvs spares supply.

                      Excellent rebuild [MENTION=9171]yamdoot[/MENTION] as usual. We want a photo of all your pride possessions in one shot standing together, please.We had a samurai in family and morons sold it off.


                      Now we have an RX100 in a pity state which i will restore.
                      Thanks for the apreciation Sibun. Yes Suzuki 2strokes have their own charm. Samurai and Ax100 particularly being hot favorites and very very reliable with practically no maintainence. Yes ill try to take pics of my bikes together once i get some quality time .
                      1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                      1989 Ki-Honda 110
                      1994 Suzuki Shogun
                      1997 Yamaha RX135
                      2008 Yamaha FZ
                      Suzuki Supra Powerup
                      IND-SUZUKI AX100
                      Hero IMPULSE
                      TVS NTORQ


                      No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                        Excellent rebuild. And must mention that the mechanic did a great job!
                        A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

                        Weekend Rides Around Kolkata
                        My Ride To Sunderbans -                         Hemnagar & Samsernagar
                        Saagar Kinare - Bakkhali Calling

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                        • #42
                          Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                          Originally posted by krishna77 View Post
                          Excellent rebuild. And must mention that the mechanic did a great job!
                          Oh yes. i had to persuade him quite a bit to do a job that doesnt pay much now a days as against rebuilding four stroke engines and earning quick bucks . Thankfully he was patient enough to listen to me and do it step by step as instructed.
                          1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                          1989 Ki-Honda 110
                          1994 Suzuki Shogun
                          1997 Yamaha RX135
                          2008 Yamaha FZ
                          Suzuki Supra Powerup
                          IND-SUZUKI AX100
                          Hero IMPULSE
                          TVS NTORQ


                          No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                            With the amount of patience and dedication you have, you are bound to find good people. Respect!
                            A bike on the road is worth two in the shed.

                            Weekend Rides Around Kolkata
                            My Ride To Sunderbans -                             Hemnagar & Samsernagar
                            Saagar Kinare - Bakkhali Calling

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                            • #44
                              Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                              Alright sorry for the delay in posting guys. Il skip some and get on to post some pics of the fully built bike now.
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                              1985 Yamaha RD350 HT
                              1989 Ki-Honda 110
                              1994 Suzuki Shogun
                              1997 Yamaha RX135
                              2008 Yamaha FZ
                              Suzuki Supra Powerup
                              IND-SUZUKI AX100
                              Hero IMPULSE
                              TVS NTORQ


                              No Cams, No Valves, No Headaches.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Suzuki Supra Powerup reborn- History revisited!

                                Originally posted by yamdoot View Post
                                Alright sorry for the delay in posting guys. Il skip some and get on to post some pics of the fully built bike now.

                                Just look at this beauty, standing with smiling face, man it's great, no one can ever know that rear tail piece is crafted of metal, red spark plug cap, all in all it's one of a kind rebuild, really great, cheerz.

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