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  • Ri$hi
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    What would the best mineral oil for running in a two stroke after the engine rebuilt?

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  • yamdoot
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    Originally posted by Bladerunner View Post
    Anyone wants to share a carton of 510 in Bombay? I can get it below mrp.
    How low. I also need 800 offroad. Pls send me the prices on pm.

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  • Bladerunner
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    Anyone wants to share a carton of 510 in Bombay? I can get it below mrp.

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  • shreyassave
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    Thanks!

    My mech used to put Veedol (it was synthetic IIRC), as I didnt know anything before joining XBhp!

    Later after a lot of difficulties, found Castrol 2T, and I could feel the change! The bike felt smoother!

    As soon as it finishes, trying Motul 510 (IIRC) that I have at home! Also I mix a pouch of Castrol 2T (40 ml) once in a while to the tank and check the oil flow from the oil pump once in a while, as guided by everyone, esp. the seniors here.

    Thanks a lot guys!

    P.S: From what I've heard, the people that use Motul (Any) swear by its performance!

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  • Bladerunner
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    Originally posted by Rxboy View Post
    Can anybody tell me the price of motul 710 fs 2t oil,and where it can be available in lucknow.
    They haven't got it to India yet.

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  • Rxboy
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    Can anybody tell me the price of motul 710 fs 2t oil,and where it can be available in lucknow.

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  • sanjithjoseph
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    Check this one dear friends

    Hope this is going to give you all a clear view about 2T Oil(Engine Oil) and Gear Oil..

    Originally posted by vijaymeyou View Post
    sanjith,

    you are wrong...

    transmission oil, gear oil terms are only used for 4 wheelers where trasmission will be seperate like gear box, diffrential drive axel.


    'YAMALUBE' Gear Oil can, See the term used there its 'GEAR OIL'
    See the below scan too.


    Originally posted by karthikdattag View Post
    Correct.


    Since engine oil is not burning inside the combustion chamber, we can't call a 2T oil as Engine Oil. Correct me if i am wrong.

    + 100000
    a scan from RX100's Owners Hand Book

    Last edited by sanjithjoseph; 11-10-2011, 07:01 PM.

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  • karthikdattag
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    Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
    There is only two oils known for 2stroke in India. 2T oil and gearbox oil.
    Correct.

    Here is a brief summary in 2-strokes:
    1. 2T Oil - Used for Lubrication & is a part of combustion process. Items covered: Crank Shaft, Cylinder, Piston, Head.
    2. GB Oil - Used for Lubrication only. Items covered : Gearbox, Clutch Assembly.
    Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
    @Aneesh: 2T oil is widely known to petrol bunk guy and even a street guy and that makes it very clear. Engine oil term might be technically right as dafc says you'll its upto an individual when it has to be communicated.
    Sriram has pointed out in utmost simplest way, so that even a layman can understand it. Sorry, but i have never heard of Engine Oil being referred in case of 2-strokes in India. I have no idea what terminology they use in US or UK!!! I am talking about India in general (N-E-W-S).

    Originally posted by vijaymeyou View Post
    engine oil means the lubrication oil which circulates inside engine crank case for lubricating/cooling moving engine parts like transmission gears, clutchplates, shifters,bearings etc.. which will (should) not burn inside combustion chamber.
    Yes, you are correct. Since engine oil is not burning inside the combustion chamber, we can't call a 2T oil as Engine Oil. Correct me if i am wrong.


    Originally posted by vijaymeyou View Post
    2T oil or side oil(because 2t oil tank will be on the side of the bike) refers to auto lube oil which will lubricates the moving piston,rings,piston pin,along with cylinder and burns inside the combustion chamber along with air fuel mixture.
    + 100000


    Originally posted by vijaymeyou View Post

    Edit: if one consider only cylinder,piston, connecting rod and crankshaft alone as engine in two sroke bike... then he can surely call 2t oil as engine oil.
    We can never leave out the Gearbox & Clutch assembly. They are very much responsible in an overall engine as the above mentioned items for the engine to perform at its peak.

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  • vijaymeyou
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    [QUOTE=sanjithjoseph;727184]+100 to what you said...

    In Two stroke's world Gear Oil is the one which is filled near to the kicker. Engine oil is the 2T oil pumped by the Oil pump or mixed with the petrol

    sanjith,

    you are wrong...

    In general atleast any where in india. for bikes 2 stroke or 4 stroke..

    engine oil means the lubrication oil which circulates inside engine crank case for lubricating/cooling moving engine parts like transmission gears, clutchplates, shifters,bearings etc.. which will (should) not burn inside combustion chamber.

    2T oil or side oil(because 2t oil tank will be on the side of the bike) refers to auto lube oil which will lubricates the moving piston,rings,piston pin,along with cylinder and burns inside the combustion chamber along with air fuel mixture.

    for Thumpers old model Bullets(cast iron engine) gear oil is diffrent from engine oil since gear box is not inbuild inside the crank case like bike engines. so gear oil will be filled seperately with different grade oil for lubricating transmission gears.

    for 2 wheelers in general widely we use only two terms

    Engine oil or 2t /side oil.


    transmission oil, gear oil terms are only used for 4 wheelers where trasmission will be seperate like gear box, diffrential drive axel.

    Hope this would clear..

    Edit: if one consider only cylinder,piston, connecting rod and crankshaft alone as engine in two sroke bike... then he can surely call 2t oil as engine oil.
    Last edited by vijaymeyou; 11-02-2011, 12:26 PM.

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  • sanjithjoseph
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    Originally posted by prakhararya View Post
    in 2 strokes its called as Gearbox oil, the term engine oil in 2 stroke world is referrec to as 2T oil which is mixed in petrol !
    +100 to what you said...

    In Two stroke's world Gear Oil is the one which is filled near to the kicker. Engine oil is the 2T oil pumped by the Oil pump or mixed with the petrol

    Hope this link will help

    Two-stroke oil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Motor oil, or engine oil, is an oil used for lubrication of various internal combustion engines. While the main function is to lubricate moving parts, motor oil also cleans, inhibits corrosion, improves sealing and cools the engine by carrying heat away from the moving parts.

    Other non-motor oils include gear or transmission, and differentials oils. These are used in manual gearboxes and driven axles. They could include specialty uses including EP (Extreme Pressure), hypoid, and limited slip functions.
    Again, they are not to be used for engine lubrication. (from yahoo answers)
    Last edited by sanjithjoseph; 11-02-2011, 12:08 AM.

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  • dafc
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    LOL no worries

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  • SriramEfunds
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    Originally posted by dafc View Post
    You need to start paying attention and quit typing with one hand, I never said what they call 2t oil up here or down there at your side nor did the guy ask anybody how to approach a petrol bunk guy or some shanty ol' lubricant owner for 2t oil? You said 2t oil is not engine oil have you ever read the stuff written on a 2t oil bottle carefully? I hope you don't forgo the 2t oil part either and pour in 20w40 oil instead oh lawdy lawdy oh

    @rxboy 2t oil is engine oil in 2 bangers, the stuff that goes around in the transmission, the stuff that's poured in on the right near the kick lever, is not 2t oil and don't ever try to substitute that for 2t oil or vice versa.

    ps: Sriram lighten up a little you're always uptight and that'll get you nowhere
    I did not know what is 20w40 and you have opened my eyes and also I'm not going to go anywhere as I've been around. I love you dafc!

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  • dafc
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    Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post
    DAFC, I laud your knowledge, the question I answered on the 2T oil is all about and the difference. What they call it in your state is secondary to me. So fact is that you'll need to go down to street guy and ask a question whether one knows what comes up while googling 2T oil!

    There is only two oils known for 2stroke in India. 2T oil and gearbox oil. Period. If you still want to argue, please go ahead. If there is a 'like' button as in FB would definitely check that for you!
    You need to start paying attention and quit typing with one hand, I never said what they call 2t oil up here or down there at your side nor did the guy ask anybody how to approach a petrol bunk guy or some shanty ol' lubricant owner for 2t oil? You said 2t oil is not engine oil have you ever read the stuff written on a 2t oil bottle carefully? I hope you don't forgo the 2t oil part either and pour in 20w40 oil instead oh lawdy lawdy oh

    @rxboy 2t oil is engine oil in 2 bangers, the stuff that goes around in the transmission, the stuff that's poured in on the right near the kick lever, is not 2t oil and don't ever try to substitute that for 2t oil or vice versa.

    ps: Sriram lighten up a little you're always uptight and that'll get you nowhere

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  • SriramEfunds
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    Originally posted by dafc View Post
    WRONG! In a 2 stroke motor the 2t oil is actually the engine oil rest everything else is secondary. There is a reason why they call it 2 stroke "engine oil".

    Don't believe me? Google for it you should have done that in the first place don't give wrong facts.
    DAFC, I laud your knowledge, the question I answered on the 2T oil is all about and the difference. What they call it in your state is secondary to me. So fact is that you'll need to go down to street guy and ask a question whether one knows what comes up while googling 2T oil!

    There is only two oils known for 2stroke in India. 2T oil and gearbox oil. Period. If you still want to argue, please go ahead. If there is a 'like' button as in FB would definitely check that for you!

    @Aneesh: 2T oil is widely known to petrol bunk guy and even a street guy and that makes it very clear. Engine oil term might be technically right as dafc says you'll its upto an individual when it has to be communicated.

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  • prakhararya
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    Originally posted by Rxboy View Post
    ya thank you,i already know but we can say gear box oil also as it is written in yamaha rx135 5s owners manual.then also can anybody suggest me a good engine oil for tvs-suzuki samurai.
    buy any oil of api sg grade 20w40, mobil 1 will do the best, if you are not able to find it, then purchase servo 20w40 from any of Bharat Petroleum bunk !

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